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    Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #7

    The young woman in this case apparently met the man whose apartment she fell from on Tinder. Police are calling the death suspicious and the investigation is continuing.

    Police have positively identified a woman who died after she fell from a Surfers Paradise high-rise apartment building.

    The woman has been identified as 26-year-old Warriena Tagpuno Wright from Lower Hutt, New Zealand.

    Around 2.20am on Friday officers were called to the Wahroonga Place building after receiving reports that a woman had fallen from a balcony.

    Police have confirmed the death is being treated as suspicious.

    ......The 28-year-old man who is the sole occupant of the apartment, Gable Tostee, was assisting police with inquiries on Friday afternoon. He was not formally arrested and no charges have been laid.

    Tagpuno Wright was reportedly visiting Tostee after meeting him through an online dating app, believed to be Tinder, the Courier Mail reported.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austral...e-balcony-fall


    Gable Tostee, man at centre of investigations into Surfers Paradise highrise death plunge of Warriena Wright, charged with murder

    http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/...-1227025428311

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    Gable Tostee murder trial: Jury hears last chilling moments of Warriena Wright’s life
    Kim Stephens, news.com.au
    October 11, 2016



    THEY could have been any happy young couple on a Tinder date.

    Six selfies tendered to the Brisbane Supreme Court on Tuesday showed a smiling Warriena Wright and a shirtless Gable Tostee inside his Gold Coast apartment and gave no hint of the tragic events that were about to unfold in the early hours of August 8, 2014.

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    What is “Causation” in Criminal Law?

    In criminal law, causation essentially describes a ‘cause and effect’ relationship between the defendant’s actions and the harm suffered by the alleged victim.

    In order to establish a defendant’s guilt, the prosecution must prove beyond reasonable doubt that his or her actions were a ‘substantial and significant cause’ of the harm. This means that although other factors may have contributed to the harm suffered, the defendant can in certain circumstances still be found criminally responsible. Homicide cases are often useful to illustrate the law relating to causation.

    In the important case of Royall v R [1991] HCA 27, Kelly Louise Healey died after falling from the window of a sixth floor apartment. It was alleged that prior to her death, she had been engaged in a violent argument with her boyfriend, Mr Royall.

    At trial, the prosecution put forward three possible explanations for her death:

    1. That Mr Royall had pushed her out of the window,

    2. That she had fallen whilst attempting to avoid an attack by Mr Royall, and

    3. That she died whilst trying to escape ‘life-threatening violence.’

    It was held that even though Ms Healey may have directly brought about her own death by jumping out the window, Mr Royall was ultimately responsible for her death as he created a ‘well founded apprehension that she would be subjected to further violence’ if she remained in the apartment.

    Accordingly, the court found that Royall’s actions were the ‘substantial or significant cause’ of Ms Healey’s death.

    In criminal cases, the question of whether the defendant’s conduct ‘substantially or significantly’ brought about the deceased’s death is left to the jury. Where there are several different possibilities for the death, as was the case in Royall, the jury is not required to determine the exact cause of death – but rather, they should simply focus on whether the defendant’s actions substantially contributed towards the death.

    http://nswcourts.com.au/articles/wha...-criminal-law/

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    Poll.

    What will be the outcome of the Warriena Wright Trial?

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...4#post12868774
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    Gable Tostee trial: Wearing a poker face as horror plays out

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    “So if you are satisfied there was a choking, a strangling ... obstruction of her breathing over such a long period of time, you would conclude from that intent, at that point, to cause her some grievous bodily harm,” he said.

    “And if that’s the case ... it is sufficient, the prosecution says, for you to return a verdict of murder.”
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...52dadbae8e49c0
    Gable Tostee murder trial: Choking question key to conviction
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    Quote Originally Posted by sosocurious View Post
    Gable Tostee trial: Wearing a poker face as horror plays out

    http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/...1b19590efbd006
    Very interesting soso, thank you.

    Particularly interesting that the reporter describes his expression as "glazed, vacant and sometimes baffled" - not the expression you'd expect of someone with an IQ of 150. Then again, nobody with an IQ of 150 would lock a drunk and distressed woman out on a highrise balcony at 2am, would they? Probably not even any ordinary Joe with an average IQ around 100, I'm thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosocurious View Post
    Gable Tostee trial: Wearing a poker face as horror plays outhttp://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/...1b19590efbd006
    Thanks Soso.

    From your link;

    He is rarely bothered by the dozens of journalists or observers in the courtroom.

    Law students, social dropouts, members of the legal fraternity come and go over the course of the week but it is only when a large group of school students enter that Tostee seems concerned by who is watching him.

    He doesn’t look at the jury often; his eyes fixed forward or studying exhibits tendered to the court on a small screen at his feet.

    All eyes are on him, though.

    One juror stops looking at a transcript when the audio of Ms Wright’s final moments is played and stares at Tostee, who appears oblivious to the attention.
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    Tostee’s “intimidation” was a significant cause of her death, he said.
    The jury had heard Ms Wright’s screams of “abject terror”. “You have heard for yourselves the panic and desperation in her voice ... and that speaks more powerfully than I ever could about the cause of her death.
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...7ba2466658018d


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    I wonder why Justice Byrne gave such an itty bitty part of his summary Friday afternoon. Any professional opinions as to why he did that rather than making a full address on Monday?

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    Forget the smiling half naked selfies.

    Because I'm only interested in the audio where he threatened to kick her out without her clothing and possessions and also threatened to throw her off the balcony minutes before she was thrown off the balcony.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldpizza View Post





    Six selfies tendered to the Brisbane Supreme Court on Tuesday showed a smiling Warriena Wright and a shirtless Gable Tostee inside his Gold Coast apartment and gave no hint of the tragic events that were about to unfold in the early hours of August 8, 2014.

    There was one photo among st the selfies that stood out to me, she had a fearful look in her eyes....not the one where they both were making silly faces.

    This one http://bit.ly/2eaY2NT
    Last edited by barcode; 10-14-2016 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elde fruit
    What you have conveniently ignored is that after he neutralised her, he left her there, he disengaged, she is unharmed, on the balcony. No-one is suggesting he tossed her off. She was perfectly safe there, and she chose her fate from that point on. How can he be expected to know she would try to climb down from a 14th Floor balcony? Is that something the man on that Clapham Omnibus, the reasonable man, would anticipate? I don't think so.
    How do you know he disengaged? How do you know he didn't pick up some weapon of sorts and begin to walk back prompting her to attempt to escape? If he had disengaged, how did he know she had fallen?
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

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    Also, I don't know any reasonable man who wanted someone to leave their property who would achieve it by locking someone in their property. And I don't be know any reasonable man who would think locking a woman in any room/location would cause her to calm down. Much less someone who is essentially a stranger. If he truly wanted the situation to end, why wouldn't he have immediately called the police?
    'Every life has a measure of sorrow, and sometimes this is what awakens us.' - Steven Tyler

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