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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterMorgan View Post
    Maybe she was trying to legally financially drain him via any separation money that he was entitled to from his job.

    Or maybe she was draining the joint accounts to pay bills. Idk. But good question though.
    Hi... no this is not the case at all. I got nosy and snooped in their divorce records and the only thing she requested was the car that I would assume she had been making payments on. The Hyundai would remain JRH's car. The rest of the property was settled according to what each party already had in their possession. Even the debt accrued within the marriage was split by whomever name was on the account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just the facts pls View Post
    Hi, from what I know they had two car seats - the infant car seat and the forward facing car seat. For some reason, two weeks before Cooper died the car seats were switched where the infant car seat was installed into JRH's vehicle. This has never made sense to me since JRH was the one who took Cooper to day care most of the time. Wouldn't it be easier to keep the forward facing one in JRH's car full time or just buy a new car seat all together?

    Coincidence of timing: around the same time the car seats were switched, JRH stopped taking pictures of Cooper on his phone when he took him to day care. JRH said Cooper was too old for pictures but was still putting him in an infant car seat. Yet more behavior in this case that simply does not make sense.
    The reason Ross gave LE regarding the car seat in his car, was Leanna needed the bigger one for she was taking Cooper (work related) for a week and the seat was more comfortable for him. They just didn't bother to switch it out.

    All these things on their own are not a wow factor to me, but when everything else pieces together it makes one wonder??? But I believe he's guilty on all accounts just by leaving CFA and less than a minute he forgets... UGH!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    I just timed it - 27 seconds from the Treehouse to the intersection by CFA. It was an additional 8 seconds (once the light turned green) from tbe intersection to CFA. I tried to video the drive but will see how it turned out. Hopefully I can upload video tonight.
    I so wish the jury could do that trip themselves...to me it is a smoking gun. maybe they will do a video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    RH was on androgel and injections for years according to his wife (youtube video response). The fact they had a baby at all was lucky IMO. I wonder if the medications increased his sex drive and whether he had been messing around for a lot longer than the phone records show, like 6-7 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    Yes, I used to believe that bolded portion above, meant that he loved seeing Cooper during the day. But after hearing that he was texting 5 or 6 women that day Cooper died, I now have a different theory for why he loved going to the day care. I think he liked the female attention he received for being such a 'great dad.'

    If he really loved spending time with Cooper, then he would have spent quality time with him the morning he died. But while he sat at the tiny breakfast table at CFA, with his son, he was pursuing his WHISPER app, hoping to set up sexual trysts with random strangers. So it is hard of me to take seriously the notion that he loved his son so much that he went there during the work day. I amy be wrong but it feels kind of correct.
    If I remember correctly - I would have to rewatch to confirm - didn't he tell LH how he and Cooper had enjoyed themselves so much at CFA that morning? What a great time they had together! I guess he means in between the ladies he was messaging....




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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    I so wish the jury could do that trip themselves...to me it is a smoking gun. maybe they will do a video.
    I also wish the jury could get inside the same type vehicle with the same type Car seat with same size doll in the seat. I think that would be enlightening.


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    I think there is a very legal reason why she divorced him and I truly believe they still communicate...and in their own very strange world intend to have another child.
    Hi, I agree there had to be a reason she divorced JRH right before the trial was set to begin. It doesn't surprise me that they were talking about having more kids. I know from studying phenomenon in adoption, it is not unusual for birth mothers to have another child shortly after giving one up for adoption. Grief from the loss of a child can result in people having more children.

    Although, just knowing what I know of JRH, I doubt that wanting to have another child would last for very long for him. I do not take what he is saying at the moment to be what he would actually do in the future. I think in right then, being under arrest and seeing his life falling a part, he said a lot of things that reflected his temporary feelings. However, if the police had dropped the charges I'm sure JRH would have been back texting and sexting in no time, and probably with the young woman he fell in love with.
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    I found the interview tapes to be most instructive. If you are reading here, interested in the trial, and have not watched them yet - I highly recommend taking the time.

    One thing that I noticed over and over again was his over explaining things and asking questions of law enforcement. Ex: during the discussion of the car seat, he asks the detective, "Do you have kids? Right then you know blah, blah, blah...." I can't explain other than to say it sounds too flippant and casual for the life-changing, horrific circumstance he found himself in. Someone who is distraught to the point of screaming, pulling on their hair, asking why, why, why cannot (in my opinion) turn on a dime and talk in a chit-chat manner as he was doing.

    As for the officers on the scene -I would want their first,over-riding motivation to be whatever it takes for Cooper to have justice. Who else is going to do that for him? Would you be ok with letting JRH just go home with LH and tell him to be more careful with their next baby? It was a horrible, horrible scene, a weird acting father, puzzle pieces that didn't fit... and then the "other women" element.

    I will say, regardless of the jury's ruling and the judge's sentence, I am grateful that he was arrested and that for Cooper's sake, this was looked at with great scrutiny. It's the very least he deserves ( imho.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    Yes, I used to believe that bolded portion above, meant that he loved seeing Cooper during the day. But after hearing that he was texting 5 or 6 women that day Cooper died, I now have a different theory for why he loved going to the day care. I think he liked the female attention he received for being such a 'great dad.'

    If he really loved spending time with Cooper, then he would have spent quality time with him the morning he died. But while he sat at the tiny breakfast table at CFA, with his son, he was pursuing his WHISPER app, hoping to set up sexual trysts with random strangers. So it is hard of me to take seriously the notion that he loved his son so much that he went there during the work day. I amy be wrong but it feels kind of correct.
    To add to this thought, about WHY Ross would often go visit Cooper at day care---I do have to wonder if he was trying to flirt with the day care employees.

    If I found out that women from my kids preschool were calling my husband's cell, and asking him to pick up breakfast for them that morning,on his way to drop off, I'd be a bit miffed. That is kind of a close personal connection that I wouldn't expect someone to have with him, unless we were all very close friends. I can't really imagine a situation where I'd expect someone to do that. So it seems to me that he got pretty close and personal with some of the ladies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperDoll View Post
    From what I gathered from the interview with LE, the rear facing seat was the original seat (the smaller one). They bought another one but Leanna had it in her car (larger one), can't remember if it too was rear facing, may have been
    I think the new one was front-facing and had been in Ross' car but was switched out for the old one just prior to Cooper's death. Here's a photo of him in the Chicco Keyfit 30:

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    There's no indication of Cooper's age at the time of the photo.

    ETA: What a little cutie he was.
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    His matter-of-fact description of what happened will be a central point of debate.

    "I knew that I had done what every parent in their life fears they've done and that's just leaving their son in the car on a hot day," Harris told detectives.

    Harris said this was his "worst fear"

    During the second round of questioning, Harris told detectives that he recently saw a news report about a father who had left his child in a hot car. He also says he just watched a video made by a veterinarian about how hot it gets for a dog left inside a car.

    "My worst fear for me is to leave my son in a hot car," Harris said.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/ross-harri...rial/459427636
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    I find that portion of his interview ASTOUNDING.

    So it was his GREATEST FEAR? And he had seen previous reports about it, even said that the grieving father, who became an advocate, had told others to MAKE SURE TO LOOK AT THE CAR SEAT each time you leave your car.

    Coopers car seat was just inches away. If he just slightly turned his head to the right, he could see the baby seat. That is all he had to do to avert his 'greatest fear' from happening.

    I would find this whole tragedy more believable as an accident if he didn't know it was a possible danger. But he says it was his BIGGEST FEAR, He knew how to avert it, he recently saw a report on it, and also saw report on how hot the cars can get. And yet, within a matter of a minute, he forgets which way to turn to daycare, and then never ever turns his face two inches to the right, as he drives to work? Sits in his car for 33 seconds, never looks right, even though he grabs stuff from the passenger seat?

    When you add this 'knowledge' about the potential deadly danger, to his current ambivalence about having a wife and a son, it is a deadly mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just the facts pls View Post
    Evidence admitted into court supporting the prosecution's case JRH premeditated Cooper's murder:

    5. The lightbulbs and other odd things: JRH did not want to go to lunch unless someone else was driving. JRH claimed he wanted to leave work to get to the movies on time. JRH agreed to go out to lunch with his friends, and then took an even longer car ride to Home Depot where he picked up light bulbs. He asked friends to drop him off at his car. He opened the car door and tossed the light bulbs in. While walking back in to work, he paused when another pedestrian was walking behind his car. When leaving work, he was walking in small faltering steps. On the way out, he shared his afternoon plans with the Home Depot security door greeter, something he had never done before in his employment there.
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    Whoa! I have not watched all of the testimony, but I have carefully followed these threads and yet this detail totally went over my head! Would someone please tell me more? Was it clear to you in the video that he was taking "small faltering steps"? Did the defense challenge this at all?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colette View Post
    I'm still watching video of the trial but so far I do not see enough evidence of 1st degree murder. I think Harris is a weirdo but everyone says he really loved that boy.

    That is why he is not charged with 1st degree murder. He is charged with felony murder, which means that he caused a death during the commission of a felony (2nd degree child cruelty and IIRC, the sexting with a minor.) The state does not have to prove malice or intent, just that RH committed the felony of child cruelty. The fact that Cooper died during the commission of the felony is what makes it felony murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyBolton View Post
    ...One thing that I noticed over and over again was his over explaining things and asking questions of law enforcement. Ex: during the discussion of the car seat, he asks the detective, "Do you have kids? Right then you know blah, blah, blah...." I can't explain other than to say it sounds too flippant and casual for the life-changing, horrific circumstance he found himself in. Someone who is distraught to the point of screaming, pulling on their hair, asking why, why, why cannot (in my opinion) turn on a dime and talk in a chit-chat manner as he was doing...
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    Flippant is a great way to categorize Ross' behavior and that of Leanna, as well. I know I'm repeating myself when I say that both are not likeable people. From the beginning of the case, Cooper's parents seemed arrogant, cocky, haughty, and, yes, flippant. I don't like either of them and have a difficult time feeling sympathy for these parents whose young child suffered an agonizing death because his father allegedly forgot to drop him off at day care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colette View Post
    I am thinking of all the daycare workers who would see them everyday. He would come in extra to see Cooper many times, not just once or twice. My concern is about the car seat, whether he recently changed to the rear facing or did he have that one all along? I haven't gotten to anything about that yet in the trial. Bad character traits and weird reactions to his son's death is not enough to find someone guilty of first degree. I would find him guilty of manslaughter so far.
    I have this feeling he wasn't just dropping in to the childcare centre to see Cooper. I think there's still some secrets. Wasn't there a computer at their home that had the hard drive missing???? Seems like destroying evidence to me.

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