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    chilling pictures emerge of the battered raft that flipped and threw passengers onto conveyor belt

    Chilling images captured by Channel 9 reveal the mangled wreckage of a six-person raft being lifted away from the Thunder River Rapids ride on Wednesday night.
    It's believed the raft, with dangling seatbelts and a torn-up frame, is the same raft that flipped backwards on the ride's conveyor belt on Tuesday afternoon









    opened in 1981 and has over 40 rides and attractions,


    A witness who was about to go on the ride said "everyone was screaming" after a raft apparently flipped.
    "We saw (a) little girl and we believe it was her mum because it was just her and her little sister that was an infant,"
    "I was speaking to one of the guys and he said it was the raft or the boat thing in front of him, the whole thing flipped and everyone was screaming."
    Another witness..."My sister and niece were on the ride, they are so traumatised, there is a woman hanging by her foot, crushed from the ride."

    promoted as a family-friendly "white water rafting" experience, where people "travel down a foamy water track past the Gold Rush Country, speeding up to 45 kph through the turbulent rapids".

    http://www.firstpost.com/world/austr...k-3071384.html

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4OCRCH4ec
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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/video/news...lery_id=166967
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Is this like supposed to add ambiance or is it just a piece of shu#~ I truly cannot tell

    It's supposed to reflect the gold rush. So all the rust etc is decoration. Makes it hard to see how run down it is when it's designed to look like a tip.
    .Find William, Kyron and all the other missing children. Thinking of the families


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    Local coverage

    http://www.9news.com.au/National/201...-ride-accident

    Just realized-- caution - by the time this post was done I feel compelled to warn that it evolved into a rant!

    I don't know --very mixed feelings about reopen - at some level, I get it (Pulse) but then I feel like I am not paying to get into a place that is obviously poorly run, It seems like I would rather make a donation directly if I were involved .

    At some level they feel sleazy to me - they probably know it's over - how would anyone know if all the money is even going there.

    You guys wanna do something - pay for the funerals - and leave your dump out of it.

    Maybe spoiled cause of Disney, but the more images I see, I am sorry, the place looks like a dump, (reminds of a traveling carnival) and the more I see the less "character" I see. That Buzz Saw ride looked just dumpy moo

    In some of the shots my thought was I wonder if they make it "look" like its supposed to "look" that way, so they don't have to "do" anything. It's dirty.

    It "feels" like the bathrooms would be repulsive, the food past gross, YUK I say

    rant over-- feeling angry as I learn more

    money money money, well your greed got to you now , now didn't it? A damn water pump - anyone would change a water pump that keeps overheating - it says I am dying.

    If a water pump in our car kept dying we would replace it. Common sense in and of itself would say I got my monies worth - sure seems like it was old like everything else I have seen. Apparently, it had done the exact same thing earlier, and last weekend.


    especially if it is clear Back to common sense - if something (anything) is overheating even if you get it running again - you kinda know it needs to cool down and stuff or it is just gonna do it again. there is nothing "technical" in that statement- its common sense. AND, if you are gonna be stupid, when you start it back up you have someone extra watching over it if it is clear that if it stops (again thank you) really bad things can happen. Its not like a water fountain jeeezzzz..

    If a water pump in our car did that, and we got it going again, we would not floor and go 95 - we would go slow AND WATCH is happening. We would be aware, and I assume staff knew what the damn pumps "job"was, so being vigilant to water levels just makes sense.

    Its not like it would just go poof water level drops and 4 people are murdered, the water level , I would think,would have slowly lowered. And may I ask, you guys had a heads up CAUSE THE OTHER ONE GOT STUCK. Why would that not , in and of itself be a ground hold instantly?

    Moreover, if I had trouble with it 3 hours earlier, and then an empty one gets stuck I think I would have heightened sense that maybe it is time to call it a day. There is spacing between them - so one would have to conclude that there had to be some period of time that the empty one was there---------------stuck.

    I hope we don't find out that the stuck empty one is like 20 feet from the platform - where it could just be "seen" of one moves their eyes to the right and sees an empty stuck raft and proceeds as usual . You would kinda know another raft IS coming. Obviously they were more than aware that water levels were vital. Some of this is common sense, first day on the job or not - all of this is kinda like common sense IMO.

    Just logic. I also hope we don't find out from witnesses that the area smelled like electrical something or that the thing had been making loud noises for a bit.

    Remain totally befuddled by draining earlier. It just makes no sense, how does that fit into a repair- what if it can't take a full load what do you do lower the level so the show can go on? There is something, IMO pardon the pun "fishy" here. I kinda wonder if they just "lowered" it to the point to where it could handle it (not). Can someone come up with a hypothesis as to why one would "drain" it to deal with a overheated pump. If anything you would just leave the thing alone - draining is the pumps job too - males no sense??

    Obviously if a stuck empty raft , for whatever reason,can't make it up the incline, how on earth could one loaded with wet people do so?? An airport with 4 runways shuts down if there is a n accident on one of them.

    Watch we might find out they sprayed some water on it with a hose - what exactly is it you do to an item that overheats?

    Opps, I guess rant was not over quite yet...........................................
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Local coverage

    http://www.9news.com.au/National/201...-ride-accident

    Just realized-- caution - by the time this post was done I feel compelled to warn that it evolved into a rant!

    I don't know --very mixed feelings about reopen - at some level, I get it (Pulse) but then I feel like I am not paying to get into a place that is obviously poorly run, It seems like I would rather make a donation directly if I were involved .

    At some level they feel sleazy to me - they probably know it's over - how would anyone know if all the money is even going there.

    You guys wanna do something - pay for the funerals - and leave your dump out of it.

    Maybe spoiled cause of Disney, but the more images I see, I am sorry, the place looks like a dump, (reminds of a traveling carnival) and the more I see the less "character" I see. That Buzz Saw ride looked just dumpy moo

    In some of the shots my thought was I wonder if they make it "look" like its supposed to "look" that way, so they don't have to "do" anything. It's dirty.

    It "feels" like the bathrooms would be repulsive, the food past gross, YUK I say

    rant over-- feeling angry as I learn more

    money money money, well your greed got to you now , now didn't it? A damn water pump - anyone would change a water pump that keeps overheating - it says I am dying.

    If a water pump in our car kept dying we would replace it. Common sense in and of itself would say I got my monies worth - sure seems like it was old like everything else I have seen. Apparently, it had done the exact same thing earlier, and last weekend.


    especially if it is clear Back to common sense - if something (anything) is overheating even if you get it running again - you kinda know it needs to cool down and stuff or it is just gonna do it again. there is nothing "technical" in that statement- its common sense. AND, if you are gonna be stupid, when you start it back up you have someone extra watching over it if it is clear that if it stops (again thank you) really bad things can happen. Its not like a water fountain jeeezzzz..

    If a water pump in our car did that, and we got it going again, we would not floor and go 95 - we would go slow AND WATCH is happening. We would be aware, and I assume staff knew what the damn pumps "job"was, so being vigilant to water levels just makes sense.

    Its not like it would just go poof water level drops and 4 people are murdered, the water level , I would think,would have slowly lowered. And may I ask, you guys had a heads up CAUSE THE OTHER ONE GOT STUCK. Why would that not , in and of itself be a ground hold instantly?

    Moreover, if I had trouble with it 3 hours earlier, and then an empty one gets stuck I think I would have heightened sense that maybe it is time to call it a day. There is spacing between them - so one would have to conclude that there had to be some period of time that the empty one was there---------------stuck.

    I hope we don't find out that the stuck empty one is like 20 feet from the platform - where it could just be "seen" of one moves their eyes to the right and sees an empty stuck raft and proceeds as usual . You would kinda know another raft IS coming. Obviously they were more than aware that water levels were vital. Some of this is common sense, first day on the job or not - all of this is kinda like common sense IMO.

    Just logic. I also hope we don't find out from witnesses that the area smelled like electrical something or that the thing had been making loud noises for a bit.

    Remain totally befuddled by draining earlier. It just makes no sense, how does that fit into a repair- what if it can't take a full load what do you do lower the level so the show can go on? There is something, IMO pardon the pun "fishy" here. I kinda wonder if they just "lowered" it to the point to where it could handle it (not). Can someone come up with a hypothesis as to why one would "drain" it to deal with a overheated pump. If anything you would just leave the thing alone - draining is the pumps job too - males no sense??

    Obviously if a stuck empty raft , for whatever reason,can't make it up the incline, how on earth could one loaded with wet people do so?? An airport with 4 runways shuts down if there is a n accident on one of them.

    Watch we might find out they sprayed some water on it with a hose - what exactly is it you do to an item that overheats?

    Opps, I guess rant was not over quite yet...........................................

    no offense, i appreciate the effort you put in here, but i really think you need to relax and maybe find a more productive way to spend your spare time, there is really no need to get this worked up over something like this, not to mention its just not healthy for your well being, unless you have friends or family members involved or related to the accident, relax and let the investigators do their job, thats what they are paid for
    Last edited by JohnPaul; 10-26-2016 at 12:40 PM.
    Anything I post is just my own opinion, and my own speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    "Australian theme park Dreamworld will re-open on Friday and host a Memorial Day for the mourning community after four people died in a catastrophic tragedy.

    The Gold Coast park was 'closed indefinitely' on Tuesday afternoon after a failed water pump on the Thunder River Rapids ride caused a fatal incident.

    But on Wednesday afternoon the park confirmed it would open its doors again at 11am on Friday, with entry proceeds going to Australian Red Cross - despite its workers facing up to five years' jail for negligence.

    'Activities will be limited to smaller rides, animal attractions, and the water park,' Dreamworld said in a statement.
    The reopening follows revelations the ride's emergency stop switch was reportedly being controlled by an 18-year-old woman on her first day on the job.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4OC7vsZ8F
    Re BBM
    Ive been trying to figure out what happened and this explains it now.
    Along with all the articles that Cariis helped share I think I finally have an idea what happened.

    Since the pump failed then the water level in the one part got too low which caused the first raft to get stuck. Then with the raft that had all the trouble they came barreling down on top of them and rode up on them and the water pressure forced theirs to flip.

    If anyone has ever been white water rafting or kayaking in
    fast water then you know how much water pressure can do things.

    The rushing water easily flipped the raft once it got an edge down because of riding up over the one in front.

    Its very unfortunate and actually looks like a really fun ride.

    The park just needs to overhaul any old pumps or parts and make it safe. These old parks need to invest in good maintenance. That is the key to keeping them safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Local coverage

    http://www.9news.com.au/National/201...-ride-accident

    Just realized-- caution - by the time this post was done I feel compelled to warn that it evolved into a rant!

    I don't know --very mixed feelings about reopen - at some level, I get it (Pulse) but then I feel like I am not paying to get into a place that is obviously poorly run, It seems like I would rather make a donation directly if I were involved .

    At some level they feel sleazy to me - they probably know it's over - how would anyone know if all the money is even going there.

    You guys wanna do something - pay for the funerals - and leave your dump out of it.

    Maybe spoiled cause of Disney, but the more images I see, I am sorry, the place looks like a dump, (reminds of a traveling carnival) and the more I see the less "character" I see. That Buzz Saw ride looked just dumpy moo

    In some of the shots my thought was I wonder if they make it "look" like its supposed to "look" that way, so they don't have to "do" anything. It's dirty.

    It "feels" like the bathrooms would be repulsive, the food past gross, YUK I say

    rant over-- feeling angry as I learn more

    money money money, well your greed got to you now , now didn't it? A damn water pump - anyone would change a water pump that keeps overheating - it says I am dying.

    If a water pump in our car kept dying we would replace it. Common sense in and of itself would say I got my monies worth - sure seems like it was old like everything else I have seen. Apparently, it had done the exact same thing earlier, and last weekend.


    especially if it is clear Back to common sense - if something (anything) is overheating even if you get it running again - you kinda know it needs to cool down and stuff or it is just gonna do it again. there is nothing "technical" in that statement- its common sense. AND, if you are gonna be stupid, when you start it back up you have someone extra watching over it if it is clear that if it stops (again thank you) really bad things can happen. Its not like a water fountain jeeezzzz..

    If a water pump in our car did that, and we got it going again, we would not floor and go 95 - we would go slow AND WATCH is happening. We would be aware, and I assume staff knew what the damn pumps "job"was, so being vigilant to water levels just makes sense.

    Its not like it would just go poof water level drops and 4 people are murdered, the water level , I would think,would have slowly lowered. And may I ask, you guys had a heads up CAUSE THE OTHER ONE GOT STUCK. Why would that not , in and of itself be a ground hold instantly?

    Moreover, if I had trouble with it 3 hours earlier, and then an empty one gets stuck I think I would have heightened sense that maybe it is time to call it a day. There is spacing between them - so one would have to conclude that there had to be some period of time that the empty one was there---------------stuck.

    I hope we don't find out that the stuck empty one is like 20 feet from the platform - where it could just be "seen" of one moves their eyes to the right and sees an empty stuck raft and proceeds as usual . You would kinda know another raft IS coming. Obviously they were more than aware that water levels were vital. Some of this is common sense, first day on the job or not - all of this is kinda like common sense IMO.

    Just logic. I also hope we don't find out from witnesses that the area smelled like electrical something or that the thing had been making loud noises for a bit.

    Remain totally befuddled by draining earlier. It just makes no sense, how does that fit into a repair- what if it can't take a full load what do you do lower the level so the show can go on? There is something, IMO pardon the pun "fishy" here. I kinda wonder if they just "lowered" it to the point to where it could handle it (not). Can someone come up with a hypothesis as to why one would "drain" it to deal with a overheated pump. If anything you would just leave the thing alone - draining is the pumps job too - males no sense??

    Obviously if a stuck empty raft , for whatever reason,can't make it up the incline, how on earth could one loaded with wet people do so?? An airport with 4 runways shuts down if there is a n accident on one of them.

    Watch we might find out they sprayed some water on it with a hose - what exactly is it you do to an item that overheats?

    Opps, I guess rant was not over quite yet...........................................
    I'm with you CARIIS, this was a tragedy that should never have happened! I'm surprised that it's being reopened so quickly.

    Reports are coming in that there were persistent safety and maintenance concerns more than a year ago.

    It is believed the dossier, which will be finalised today, will outline fears that maintenance work was not carried out in accordance with manufacturer guidelines and that the wrong engineers may have been tasked with looking after rides.The document could also reportedly allege workers who voiced such concerns were bullied or intimidated.
    http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...re-than-a-year

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    The low water due to pump failure meant one empty raft came to a halt. In the meantime a raft witn 6 passengers came along the conveyor belt after ride completion, heading right towards that empty raft which sat idle a metre or two from the end of the conveyor belt. As the full raft came off the belt it hit the empty raft with the end lifting up on top of the empty vessel. The conveyor belt kept pushing the full raft and as it was now angled up slightly it kept raising it until it was fully vertical. We're about to see WS down, when we are back I will post 3 images that show this clearly. It's so sad and the two people who died in the machinery must have endured a terrible, terrible death. The seats on the raft that hit the conveyor belt were literally chewed up. 😢

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    How it happened.







    http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/dream...pen-2016102618

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    The raft after, so cofronting. 3 seats have major damage from conveyor belt. People were in these seats. 😐



    You can't even see the wooden backs of two seats, they are gone.

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    Dreamworld will not be allowed to open Friday according to this article. Police have insisted it remains closed.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tourists.html


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    He Missed ya all ha!

    I cut and paste into an email what i learned last night and it put it withpot paragraphs i am just gonna randomly break it apart for easier reading!

    attracts almost two million visitors each year from Australia and around the world.

    Rides: 28 (two water rides, five roller coasters)
    In early October, Patrick Boundy said: “The Tower of Terror ride didn’t brake properly and we had to wait for engineers to come and get us off the ride.”

    Facebook user Tasneem Seedat gave the popular park a two star review on Monday, saying rides were “out of date and are not as smooth as they should be” and adding: “I injured myself on the way down from the giant drop because of your old school repairs and upgrades. Wipe-out and a few others need replacing. It just needs a general update all together. All rides are out of date

    .

    “Another major concern is that for all of your rides there is only 1 or at max 2 people operating it and checking harnesses.”

    In April, 2015, the Gold Coast Bulletin reported that former Dreamworld worker Zoe Dennise Prince was suing the theme park for $290,000 over claims she hurt her wrist while checking harnesses on the Tower of Terror thrill ride.

    A Tridadvisor user who visited on 6 October for his son’s birthday wrote in a review that he and his family “got stuck on a ride halfway through at the top of the big water slide.”
    The visitor, from Taree, added: “I was surprised they didn’t ask us if we wanted to get off like they had done to other people who we saw experience mid ride complications.



    “I was stuck with my two kids in this boat thing for 10 minutes, that’s a very long time in a precarious position.


    the entire park seemed to be in a bit of disrepair, with railings that didn’t feel safe, dodgy temporary fences and of course a lot of broken rides”

    .... 28-year-old claims that in her role as a ride attendant she was required to perform approximately 1500 safety *harness checks per shift and had to check them as quickly as possible to minimise delay between rides.


    on May 20, 2013, she was checking harnesses on the Tower of Terror when she says she experienced pain in her right wrist.
    In the personal injury claim, prepared by Shine Lawyers, it is alleged the injury was caused by the company’s negligence for requiring Ms Prince to undertake repetitive tasks without adequate rest breaks.



    “When it (the pumps) started again, the raft was basically sitting there and hit by a flood of water (from behind),” said the emergency services source. “It pushed one raft on to the other. Two people were lost sideways and the two others were trapped underneath.


    A CORONIAL inquest into a horror accident that claimed four lives at Dreamworld could hold the power to change the entire theme park industry.


    the area around the ride would remain a crime scene for up to a week.“The coronial hearing won’t be held until next year, but there may be recommendations around legislation for the entire industry.“Other Gold Coast theme parks should be looking closely at their machinery — there could be changes to licensing and regulations coming.



    THE boss of Dreamworld owner Ardent Leisure has angrily responded to suggestions she turn down a nearly $850,000 bonus following Tuesday’s tragic accident which killed four people. Outgoing chairman Neil Balnaves said any bonus Ms Thomas received “relates to the prior year, a year the company performed in very good terms”. “The tragedy is only 48 hours old,” he said. “It is inappropriate to comment on commercial matters at this time.” The company, which draws around 34 per cent of its total revenue from its theme parks,


    We’ve had 35 million people through the gate and we’ve never had a tragedy like this.


    The size and the impact of this is just awful.”Mr Balnaves said experience of tragedies in theme parks around the world suggested the financial impact would “diminish as time goes by”.


    forecast attendance at Dreamworld could fall by up to 20 per cent, based on the experience of the Alton Towers rollercoaster accident in Britain last year. Tuesday has wiped more than $310 million from the company’s market capitalisation, to almost $940 million.

    THE union representing Dreamworld staff says it raised grave concerns about safety at the park 18 months ago, but its owner fought efforts to obtain information.



    There were reports last night that the ride was supposed to be closed for maintenance yesterday, after a Twitter user shared a screenshot from the park’s web page that said: “This ride will be closed for maintenance from Tuesday 25 October through to Monday 31 October 2016 inclusive.”


    In April, the neighbouring Log Ride was closed indefinitely after a man fell and nearly drowned. It was given the all clear by Worksafe Queensland inspectors and reopened two days later.



    4:46 Velcro belt what a joke


    http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/what-its-like-on-board-the-fatal-dreamworld-ride/news-story/de7cc1b95cfc8453f5760aaa1da2d492


    Circular rafts of six seats are used on the ride which spin and tumble along a white water course of raging rapids. People are strapped in not by the usual heavy harness but by loose straps around the waist, potentially so riders can escape if the cars flip in the water.


    Theme park review website Parkz classes Thunder River Rapids as “good” with a rating of 72 out of 100. But it is listed as relatively modest when it comes to “intensity”. In the past, riders could reportedly board and dismount the boats while they were still moving but this was halted due to safety concerns.


    Cindy studied at Kawerau College in the small New Zealand North Island town in the Bay of Plenty. She married Mathew Low in 2011 and both moved to Sydney where he worked as a business manager for a hearing aids company.


    Roozi was working at the Australian Bureau of Statistics on secondment from the Australian Government Department of Health. Colleagues from the Bureau of Statistics described him as a dedicated, professional and hardworking part of the communications team who was very popular and well-regarded. He was helping with an organisation-wide transformation of the bureau’s statistical processes, a statement said. At one stage he was a contributor to leading gay and lesbian news site Same Same, interviewing pop stars Boy George and Jessica Mauboy, as well as writing music reviews



    The Canberra trio, visiting Queensland for a wedding, shared plenty of social good times as a post from August on Mr Dorsett’s Facebook page showed. Commenting on a photo of himself in dress-up and drinking from a bottle through a straw, he jokes about being “classy!”. Mrs Goodchild replied: “I bet you weren’t feeling classy this morning ... hehe.”


    DAVID Goodchild watched in horror as the love of his life was crushed to death while his daughter was flung into a pool of water and swam frantically to safety.



    Husband of wife
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/0a483933076df01875d842f3cc552ef1?width=650



    POLICE have cast doubt on Dreamworld’s plan to reopen tomorrow.
    Assistant Commissioner Brian Codd said police have not yet given Dreamworld permission to reopen. He said the park was “hopeful” to open, but that final approval would come later today. Asst Comm Codd said police were looking at issues around the planned reopening.


    Last night, police and consular officials were working to notify overseas relatives of one of the men. Ms Goodchild’s daughter watched on in horror as the tragedy unfolded. She could be heard howling hysterically* as her mum and the other trio lay dead on the ride.


    Ass Comm Brian Codd said the 12-year-old daughter of Kate Goodchild had travelled back to Canberra with her father and grandmother this afternoon while the 10-year-old son of Cindy Low is still on the Coast with his father.Three of the four autopsies have been conducted today.


    aerial of the whole park
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a1bbbe51943541786e898c04685288b7?width=650



    In incidents like this I despise when CEOs read from a sheet of paper - it makes it so "nothing" - if you cant talk from your heart without reading stay home moo





    http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/what-its-like-on-board-the-fatal-dreamworld-ride/news-story/de7cc1b95cfc8453f5760aaa1da2d492
    http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/dreamworld-deaths-unbearable-pain-of-husbands-who-saw-wives-die-at-end-of-ride/news-story/31f25685a6db56a2d6caa3aa600ad316
    http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/dreamworld-tragedy-police-throw-doubt-on-gold-coast-theme-parks-planned-reopening/news-story/2e892f531ceba2a80dfbb2381441ff29
    http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lifestyle/tributes-flow-for-cindy-low-roozi-araghi-kate-goodchild-luke-dorsett-killed-at-dreamworld-on-the-gold-coast/news-story/860f6662095b62dce5bc466340380109
    http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeSuspect View Post
    I'm with you CARIIS, this was a tragedy that should never have happened! I'm surprised that it's being reopened so quickly.

    Reports are coming in that there were persistent safety and maintenance concerns more than a year ago.



    http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...re-than-a-year
    I wonder if they are trained on one ride only or do the cross utilize ?

    TY. Interesting other tidbit from your link

    9NEWS understands the water level of the ride had dropped yesterday afternoon, which failed to trigger a sensor that usually sets off an alarm to shut down the ride.

    Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...YwE27dTtROp.99

    Also last night I was trying to learn -- not sure which article but there was actually and engineer who was so worried that he actually contacted a ride's manufacturer, personally and directly, to find out they were maintaining stuff differently than the entities who made the rides themselves

    Also, the empty one was IN , for lack of a better word, the disembarkment area - had to be seen stuck by those waiting in line and operator.

    Also found it just unnecessary ;that apparently staff were rushed to check harnesses on all the rides there. What is "rush" they have everyone money already?

    O/T kinda!

    That happened at American airlines resulting in a huge crash of a DC-10 in Chicago- a big one. When doing an engine removal they were supposed to be dropping the engine and THEn take the pylon off separately, They decided to just remove the engine and pylon all still together. On the accident airplane when they were remounting, they cracked a bolt that held it on the wing. On takeoff the engine completely sheared off went up over the top of the wing crashed on the runway.

    e pilots did not know that the engine flew off - they just thought it was an engine failure. Hydroic fluid was leaking which made flaps so all sorts of crazy stuff, and they plummetted to the ground. It was a DC 10 that had a camera on the front (interesting idea- but not this time) that let passengers see ahead of them Continental was doing same thing. They did find other engine mounts cracked on other DC-10s. I will never forget the picture (made front pages all over) a guy took:

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    .It remains the worst crash in US history...............................


    Gross but I cant help but recall the boy on the raft in "Jaws".
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    I'm appalled at the callousness of the Ardent board. Yesterday was not the time for bonuses. Yesterday should have been spent in the company of the victims families assisting them in any way they could. Deborah Thomas (CEO) said that they hadn't been able to reach the families. What rot. So much rot that one of the family's rang a reporter at the press conference and asked them to pass on their number to Thomas on air!

    Trying to reopen on Friday with their ******** token "memorial" was totally inappropriate and only trying to move away from the deaths of innocent people.

    I haven't been to Dreamworld in ten years but when I was last there it was grotty. I think they use the "Australian" ness of the park to justify the dilapidated equipment everywhere. It's not broken, it's the outback, everything is rusted, banged up and worn- that sort of thing. No way they will be allowed to reopen with the Gold Rush area (where the Thunder Rapids is) - that section will be gutted. Imo.
    .Find William, Kyron and all the other missing children. Thinking of the families


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    I have been trying to envision how the two children were completely unharmed...No report really saying where the children landed. I think I read one that said they were thrown "clear", but thrown where? Unless they landed on a raft coming up behind them, I don't see where they could have landed that would have resulted in them being completely uninjured...

    At first I had a hard time envisioning the entire accident. I was thinking it "flipped" as in "flipped right over onto the riders, hense the drownings, I have a better idea now of what happened, but if two adults were ejected sideways, and crushed by the machinery , and the two who were trapped underneath drown, who was sitting in the torn up seats? I would think those people would have been crushed , by the look of things...were those seats occupied by the two children? It doesn't look to me, as if anyone in those seats would have died by "drowning" alone, surly they would have suffered massive injury?

    Can't really get a clear picture in my mind of where everyone ended up after the crash. People were even reporting a woman was "dangling by one foot" dangling from where?

    Also, if a raft was stuck, did no one notice it? I am thinking people just got off that stuck raft, as it was on the exit platform...How long was it just sitting there stuck?
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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austral...ned-to-tragedy

    As he saw the raft flip, Goodchild immediately threw his wallet and phone from his pockets, jumped a fence and dove into the muddy water.
    "My son managed to get to Kate who died in his arms with [her mother] Kim and my grand-dauhter screaming, looking on," Goodchild's mother told reporters on Thursday.
    ETA: I keep seeing the fact that two children survived referred to as "almost a miracle" or "providence of God".
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