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    Dan O'Donnell - Rebutting a Murderer

    Dan O'Donnell covered the Steven Avery trial as a MSM reporter and can be seen in several episodes of MaM.

    He now has a podcast titled Rebutting a Murderer where he discusses different aspects of both the case and the Netflix series that has reignited discussions.

    You can find it here...

    http://newstalk1130.iheart.com/onair...de-1-14260554/

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    A little bit of background on Dan O'Donnell...

    http://www.adweek.com/news/televisio...podcast-169092

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    here is a link the AMA he did on reddit a few weeks ago. Since it was not deleted on the other thread from Ranch's post, I assume it's ok to post. https://www.reddit.com/r/StevenAvery..._dan_odonnell/

    Here are just a few examples of where he was wrong: The lack of photos in the burn pit is pretty standard (ok then ), that the AutoTrader receptionist said she (TH) was "weirded out" and didn't want to go back to the Avery property. (this is just plain wrong, and it distorts the truth immensely)

    in regards to the documents released on www.stevenaverycase.org he says "I'll be honest, I haven't looked at much". I give him credit for admitting it, but c'mon, and we are supposed to take his opinion into consideration? I find it equivalent to someone that watched MaM and insisting that BD and SA are innocent because they watched it, it's silly, and we should expect more from any media source. Because we have the documents readily available, so does the media and so does Dan O'Donnell. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    here is a link the AMA he did on reddit a few weeks ago. Since it was not deleted on the other thread from Ranch's post, I assume it's ok to post. https://www.reddit.com/r/StevenAvery..._dan_odonnell/

    Here are just a few examples of where he was wrong: The lack of photos in the burn pit is pretty standard (ok then ), that the AutoTrader receptionist said she (TH) was "weirded out" and didn't want to go back to the Avery property. (this is just plain wrong, and it distorts the truth immensely)

    in regards to the documents released on www.stevenaverycase.org he says "I'll be honest, I haven't looked at much". I give him credit for admitting it, but c'mon, and we are supposed to take his opinion into consideration? I find it equivalent to someone that watched MaM and insisting that BD and SA are innocent because they watched it, it's silly, and we should expect more from any media source. Because we have the documents readily available, so does the media and so does Dan O'Donnell. JMO
    Do we have any examples of his reporting during the time of the trial? I would be very very interested to see that.
    I would also be very interested to learn more about what his relationship to Ken Kratz is.

    Something tells me if we dig deep into his background we will find a very interesting story. JMO

    Law school is an odd route into broadcasting, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolJ View Post
    Do we have any examples of his reporting during the time of the trial? I would be very very interested to see that.
    I would also be very interested to learn more about what his relationship to Ken Kratz is.

    Something tells me if we dig deep into his background we will find a very interesting story. JMO

    Well according to a comment in his AMA, KK (and others) has reached out to him to say "Thank you" LOL does that count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    here is a link the AMA he did on reddit a few weeks ago. Since it was not deleted on the other thread from Ranch's post, I assume it's ok to post. https://www.reddit.com/r/StevenAvery..._dan_odonnell/

    Here are just a few examples of where he was wrong: The lack of photos in the burn pit is pretty standard (ok then ), that the AutoTrader receptionist said she (TH) was "weirded out" and didn't want to go back to the Avery property. (this is just plain wrong, and it distorts the truth immensely)

    in regards to the documents released on www.stevenaverycase.org he says "I'll be honest, I haven't looked at much". I give him credit for admitting it, but c'mon, and we are supposed to take his opinion into consideration? I find it equivalent to someone that watched MaM and insisting that BD and SA are innocent because they watched it, it's silly, and we should expect more from any media source. Because we have the documents readily available, so does the media and so does Dan O'Donnell. JMO
    An opinion is just that~~its an opinion. I have one, you have one, we all have one. However, there is a chance that 50% of us with the NG opinion are correct and 50% chance we are wrong. Likewise, there is a chance 50% with the G opinion are correct and 50% chance they are wrong. This case is not going to be decided based upon Dan O'Donnell's opinion, your opinion or my opinion. So, we can discuss our opinions all we want, however in the end it will make no difference at all.

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    He was not wrong about her being weirded out by SA. This has also been substantiated by one of Teresa's longtime friends.

    “She had a bad feeling about him,” says Halbach’s longtime friend, Gina Haring. “She said, ‘He looks at me weird. He creeps me out.’ ”

    http://people.com/crime/teresa-halba...one-last-time/

    The fact that Teresa spoke to several people about him just goes to show how concerned she was which makes what happened to her even more tragic.

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    D.O was at the trial. He seen and heard everything the jury did and maybe more so it doesn't concern me at all that he hasn't read up on transcripts etc.

    I don't necessarily share his opinion on how or why BD was involved, but at least he seems to have set a much higher benchmark for himself when it comes to truth in reporting than the MaM filmakers did.

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    To be fair to D.O. he actually put this rebuttal together almost immediately that the series came out. Yes there are a couple of inconsistencies, but on the whole, he raises some very interesting questions and points out that the programme makers misled its audience by suggesting wrong doing by LE, without actually providing any evidence. Also, he noted that other people were suggested as potential suspects based upon nothing but the opinion of the producers of MaM.

    D.O. did however, did spark some ideas about the editing of the programme, which I have found to be very disconcerting. Colborn's appearance in the witness box is massively edited, and they have him giving answers to questions that were put in a different order. I would watch the relevant MaM episode again, but have the court transcript from when Colborn was on the stand, open in a browser. They stitched him up like a Kipper on that show, and misled the audience by actually showing his reactions to other questions, instead of what he had just been asked.

    For making me check the records and finding out for myself how biassed MaM is, I have D.O. to thank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limaes View Post
    He was not wrong about her being weirded out by SA. This has also been substantiated by one of Teresa's longtime friends.

    “She had a bad feeling about him,” says Halbach’s longtime friend, Gina Haring. “She said, ‘He looks at me weird. He creeps me out.’ ”

    http://people.com/crime/teresa-halba...one-last-time/

    The fact that Teresa spoke to several people about him just goes to show how concerned she was which makes what happened to her even more tragic.
    He stated the receptionist from AutoTrader testified to this.... he was wrong. She didn't. Read her testimony. She testified on Day 2.

    If what her friend said is true, I wonder why she didn't testify? I wonder why it wasn't brought up in the testimony of 2 AT workers that TH was going to quit? They begged her to go to Avery's?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosen_Fenger View Post
    To be fair to D.O. he actually put this rebuttal together almost immediately that the series came out. Yes there are a couple of inconsistencies, but on the whole, he raises some very interesting questions and points out that the programme makers misled its audience by suggesting wrong doing by LE, without actually providing any evidence. Also, he noted that other people were suggested as potential suspects based upon nothing but the opinion of the producers of MaM.

    D.O. did however, did spark some ideas about the editing of the programme, which I have found to be very disconcerting. Colborn's appearance in the witness box is massively edited, and they have him giving answers to questions that were put in a different order. I would watch the relevant MaM episode again, but have the court transcript from when Colborn was on the stand, open in a browser. They stitched him up like a Kipper on that show, and misled the audience by actually showing his reactions to other questions, instead of what he had just been asked.

    For making me check the records and finding out for myself how biassed MaM is, I have D.O. to thank.
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    I don't think it was all just their "opinion". There are court documents filed before and after the trial that accuse others as potential suspects.

    Honestly Hoosen_Fenger, the show is almost a moot point to me now. Yeah, I watched it, but half way through, I started researching it and was reading while watching. I am smart enough to know that it is a show and I wasn't snowed by any editing. Maybe some time I will go back and watch it when I have the time (which isn't any time soon lol), it will be interesting to me now that I have far more knowledge about the cases as a whole than I did the first time. I promise if I ever do, I will make notes of anything that I think is wrong compared to the transcripts and documents that we have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosen_Fenger View Post
    To be fair to D.O. he actually put this rebuttal together almost immediately that the series came out. Yes there are a couple of inconsistencies, but on the whole, he raises some very interesting questions and points out that the programme makers misled its audience by suggesting wrong doing by LE, without actually providing any evidence. Also, he noted that other people were suggested as potential suspects based upon nothing but the opinion of the producers of MaM.

    D.O. did however, did spark some ideas about the editing of the programme, which I have found to be very disconcerting. Colborn's appearance in the witness box is massively edited, and they have him giving answers to questions that were put in a different order. I would watch the relevant MaM episode again, but have the court transcript from when Colborn was on the stand, open in a browser. They stitched him up like a Kipper on that show, and misled the audience by actually showing his reactions to other questions, instead of what he had just been asked.

    For making me check the records and finding out for myself how biassed MaM is, I have D.O. to thank.
    I absolutely agree that NO one should base their opinions of this case on the documentary alone. I think anyone & everyone who is going to form an opinion pertaining to SA & BD's guilt or innocence should READ through each page of the transcripts as well as CASO. I've always wondered.. why KK or LE never accepted MAM creators invitation to answer questions? Even with a lawyer present or something? Set the record straight and get those big bad liars off their backs, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limaes View Post
    He was not wrong about her being weirded out by SA. This has also been substantiated by one of Teresa's longtime friends.

    “She had a bad feeling about him,” says Halbach’s longtime friend, Gina Haring. “She said, ‘He looks at me weird. He creeps me out.’ ”

    http://people.com/crime/teresa-halba...one-last-time/

    The fact that Teresa spoke to several people about him just goes to show how concerned she was which makes what happened to her even more tragic.
    Seriously? Begging? Anyone know if People magazine pays$$$ for interviews?? Curious
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCityAccountant View Post
    An opinion is just that~~its an opinion. I have one, you have one, we all have one. However, there is a chance that 50% of us with the NG opinion are correct and 50% chance we are wrong. Likewise, there is a chance 50% with the G opinion are correct and 50% chance they are wrong. This case is not going to be decided based upon Dan O'Donnell's opinion, your opinion or my opinion. So, we can discuss our opinions all we want, however in the end it will make no difference at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    Well according to a comment in his AMA, KK (and others) has reached out to him to say "Thank you" LOL does that count?
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