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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    the defense team looks extremely beat down as Dr. Brewer exits...they cannot face Diamond today and make some excuse that he is not there...not buying that at all...they need more time after watching Boring absolutely discredit their first "memory" guy. Diamond will be on tomorrow morning and then rebuttal for state...probably their own memory person? Not sure....closing could be monday unless RH testifies which we know he will not. Jury could have this Tues. so we will have an election watch and verdict watch.
    Hopefully they don't keep dr D up too late so he remembers his testimony

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    I think Dr. Diamond is a crucial, and wonderful witness for the defense. But I would've thought his testimony would last at least two days with direct, cross and rebuttal. What's up with that? Maybe his testimony is going to be very limited as to the generalities of FBS? I can't think of another witness who has 50 slides. But what would his slides show? What about FBS is out on slides?
    So confusing. I'm in trial tomorrow so I won't get to check in until much later. And Diamond's is the only testimony I'm really interested in watching.
    I'm assuming brain sections and cortexes etc...maybe sections that light up when they have pasta strainer things on their heads..when they remember/forget things

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    It seems like the efficacy of the memory witness depends totally on the opinion of the person watching. It's split almost exactly along lines. Those who believe the defendant is culpable view the witness as useless to the defense. Those who feel the defendant is innocent believe the witness was good for the defense.
    I think it shows that if the jury are leaning in one direction they're going to interpret what they see a certain way and there's not much either side can do at this point.

    There are such polar opposite opinions about this case. I have a feeling the jury is going to be quite similar.
    The testimony this morning was convincing IMO. If I were a juror, I would seriously reconsider my vote on a few charges. Listening to the evidence about triggers allowed me put all of these loose ends into one package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    Well at one point he asked to have a question repeated because his "mind was wandering"

    Lol that was seriously mind blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turaj View Post
    discredit is wrong word very sorry...I am not a legal expert...he was not a convincing witness for the defense and tended to buy everything the state asked him to agree with...I doubt anyone could have watched him and thought he helped the defense but maybe some think that. I felt Kilgore looked pretty unhappy as did his client.
    I knew what you meant. The witness was not discredited, but the DT's theory about Ross forgetting Cooper was largely "discredited." The witness's anger and frustration at the end showed his bias. When he realized the implications of his answers, he fired off that there was no way Ross could do anything that would make him become knowingly fatigued, leading to an increased likelihood of forgetting Cooper in the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzychick View Post
    I liked the take your shoe off and put it with the kid, that's a better idea than the contraptions I was thinking of making like a string tied to the car seat then to your wrist. The shoe is a much better idea, but then again if you are the forgetful type you might forget to use the shoe idea...

    A mirror so you can see them when sleeping and talking to them when awake....kinda bullet proof and idk good parenting 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    There is really no such thing as "wide open to be reversed." Some judges are very careful about it and err on the side of giving the defendant a wide berth of constitutional protections.

    Other judges, like Staley, wear their biases out in the open (hang 'em high, law & order) without apology or shame. Probably because that is acceptable and even preferable to the people of Georgia, and also because the Ga appeals courts have not curbed this kind of bias among judges.

    I can't think of a curative instruction she could give that would solve this. And even though I think it might be reversible error, that doesn't mean the appellate court will.

    I hear you.

    I've assumed the GA legislature would not have passed legislation giving the State discretion to treat as felony murder what most other states charge as aggravated manslaughter (if after investigating, they decide to press charges at all) if legislators believed resultant cases wouldn't sail on through all stages of GA's judicial process.

    It's depressing and frightening, though, to witness this exercise of raw power, and imo, predictable abuse of discretion at every stage in the case of RH.

    Maybe Ross is guilty of malice murder, maybe not. It's obviously easy for many to despise him, not just for the death of Cooper and for sexting minors, but for everything about him, from his hair and weight and clothes on through his marital infidelities and presumed "lazy" work habits.

    But what of the next parent, "faultless" in their personal life, who accidentally leaves their child to die in a hot car and who also fails to do or to say what LE expects, or to demonstrate grief in a way that satisfies?
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    RIP, Cassini. To her tireless overseers- job well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzychick View Post
    I liked the take your shoe off and put it with the kid, that's a better idea than the contraptions I was thinking of making like a string tied to the car seat then to your wrist. The shoe is a much better idea, but then again if you are the forgetful type you might forget to use the shoe idea...
    Its so sad really. Every day I put my damn heat shield up in my front car window. Whether it's next to me in the passneger seat or behind me when I park. Because I don't want my car to be so hot when I get in it and I don't want my dashboard to fade and crack. But people can't figure out something to not forget their precious baby? Geez! Just make it a damn habit to look in the back seat before you lock the car. Habit. Whether in a hurry or not. That's your routine. If it's routine to lock the car it can be routine to check the back. Heck, despite not having babies or toddlers, I check the back before I leave for fear a stray animal jumped in when I was getting in.
    For Elizabeth, a minor child, a victim. Thank God she is home!

    *Gitana (means "Gypsy girl"). Pronounced "hee tah nah."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    The testimony this morning was convincing IMO. If I were a juror, I would seriously reconsider my vote on a few charges. Listening to the evidence about triggers allowed me put all of these loose ends into one package.
    So did you change your mind? How did it cause you to change your vote?
    For Elizabeth, a minor child, a victim. Thank God she is home!

    *Gitana (means "Gypsy girl"). Pronounced "hee tah nah."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    It seems like the efficacy of the memory witness depends totally on the opinion of the person watching. It's split almost exactly along lines. Those who believe the defendant is culpable view the witness as useless to the defense. Those who feel the defendant is innocent believe the witness was good for the defense.
    I think it shows that if the jury are leaning in one direction they're going to interpret what they see a certain way and there's not much either side can do at this point.

    There are such polar opposite opinions about this case. I have a feeling the jury is going to be quite similar.
    Quote Originally Posted by dizzychick View Post
    I liked the take your shoe off and put it with the kid, that's a better idea than the contraptions I was thinking of making like a string tied to the car seat then to your wrist. The shoe is a much better idea, but then again if you are the forgetful type you might forget to use the shoe idea...
    ^^^ Either way the jury decides..It's quite obvious that Ross should never ever be allowed to be responsible or in charge of any child for the rest of his life! He's a self absorbed idiot who cares nothing about anything except to dodge responsibility when it suits him..and when called out on it..decides to let all "Important" things slide so he can feed his addiction/obsession!!
    He may have some skills in the IT department..but ERO skills on most everything else! Being a party animal or life of the party..a Big talker..doesn't make him a moral/responsible adult worthy of being responsible for a child ever again!

    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    I'm assuming brain sections and cortexes etc...maybe sections that light up when they have pasta strainer things on their heads..when they remember/forget things
    This is when I asked out of my past experiences with behavioural abnormalities..DID Def. even do a Pet Scan..that would outline just such a thing! Did Pros. demand a real personality assessment to be done ( ala Jodie Arias trial evidence)?? I really do think Ross has a few screws loose up there..and is unable to abide the main norms of society!

    But, in the end..Ross will end up doing time ( hopefully these juror's are NOT like Casey Anthony's) and before returning to society be tested to make sure about his ability to act in accordance to social norms! Plus..pleeze, hope he gets his tubes ( Vasectomy) snipped so he never ever reproduces!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    So did you change your mind? How did it cause you to change your vote?
    I really need to wait for the last DT witness before committing to anything. In very general terms, the witness this morning makes it practically impossible for me to believe that Ross forgot Cooper.

    Short rehash:
    State: Would this [insert fact of case] reduce the chance of forgetting?
    Witness:. [Emphatically] Yes.
    State: [Insert evidence from this case] Would this be considered a trigger?
    Witness: Yes

    The witness also stressed how distraction increases "memory failure."

    The list goes on and on, but I don't have the time right now. I would listen to the testimony for yourself.

    ETA - I don't think it is coincidence that the DT scrapped at least two witnesses after this morning's testimony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    A mirror so you can see them when sleeping and talking to them when awake....kinda bullet proof and idk good parenting 101
    glue a blue tooth chip to the pacifier. They pair up with blue tooth on your cell phone. People are now attaching to their car key rings. Some men are putting them inside their wallet. Once the distance between cell phone and chip exceed approx 20-30 ft it beeps a notification on your married up cell . Hey, if it helps remind you not to forget your wallet or car keys, why not a baby? I was going to suggest having the chip implanted beneath baby's skin at time of baby's birth but I just knew so,eone would suggest I was likening a baby with a dog. It's all about the accountability

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    I really need to wait for the last DT witness before committing to anything. In very general terms, the witness this morning makes it practically impossible for me to believe that Ross forgot Cooper.

    Short rehash:
    State: Would this [insert fact of case] reduce the chance of forgetting?
    Witness:. [Emphatically] Yes.
    State: [Insert evidence from this case] Would this be considered a trigger?
    Witness: Yes

    The witness also stressed how distraction increases "memory failure."

    The list goes on and on, but I don't have the time right now. I would listen to the testimony for yourself.

    ETA - I don't think it is coincidence that the DT scrapped at least two witnesses after this morning's testimony.
    I wish I could. Trial prep has me busy today.
    For Elizabeth, a minor child, a victim. Thank God she is home!

    *Gitana (means "Gypsy girl"). Pronounced "hee tah nah."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    I wish I could. Trial prep has me busy today.
    Good luck tomorrow!

    ETA - He also testified that distractions come at a "cost to other activities that are happening simultaneously."

    In other words, caring for Cooper suffered because of his texting habits.
    Last edited by GA_Peach; 11-03-2016 at 06:41 PM.

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    They need a Dr to testify about the effects of a testosterone imbalance on sleep and memory.

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