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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontario Mom View Post
    I see their pic and I just weep for them. No matter what circumstances they were in at the time, there is always healing, hope, recovery and potential. This freaking waste of oxygen removed all of that from them and for their future. I'm so sorry for their families and loved ones. This case is hitting me super hard. Harder than any other I've ever followed here in all my years of being WS member.

    God bless the families of the loved ones who suffered at the hands of this monster. May He surround them with mercy and comfort for as long as they need until they can move forward.
    They were a beautiful young couple and where there is life there is always the potential for change and redemption. I agree it's one of the more chilling and upsetting cases I have seen. The fact this monster was able to get out of prison and then go on unchecked slaughtering people is unbelievable. All the while, also becoming a successful business owner with access to people's homes makes it all the more terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainCheck View Post
    It's pretty common actually. The Zodiac Killer, The Night Stalker, Son of Sam, The Golden State Killer and now this guy, off the top of my head. I think it usually stems from some childhood anger at both parents. Often times, they enjoy the power of killing a man to then torture and kill his female companion or it can be anger at the couple having the human connection they are unable to have or understand.
    The Original Night Stalker was my first thought. More than 50 rapes and a dozen or more murders, and he targeted couples most of the time.

    Leonard Lake and Charles Ng killed at least two families, maybe three, if I remember correctly - killed the fathers and children immediately, then held the women captive until they died from abuse. BTK also killed families. Douglas Gretzler ended a serial murder spree by killing a family in California. A few of the Zebra Murders targeted couples (four murderers in that case).

    It's actually a lot more common than you'd think, now that we're listing them. I think a lot of killers either get off on forcing one member of a couple to watch/know about their loved ones' rape or murder, or find it more thrilling to have to "fight" (aka kill with no warning) someone for their real target.

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    Just found this article that includes many of TK's cryptic FB posts and Amazon reviews. It also references the money he wanted transferred to the account for the girl's college. Does that mean she is an adult? I initially thought it may have been a child (not sure why). I know there is no logic with crazy, but I keep wondering what the motive could possibly have been for killing this young couple? Why did he shoot JC multiple times, but MC only once? He has 20+ years on them and is obviously not a spry individual. IMO, he must've had a very elaborate plan prior to setting it in motion or they may have stood a chance at overpowering him. Back to the motive, all I get is hate. Evil spewed by deep rooted hate. It appears that the least little incident could've provoked him into such rage. IMO, anyone that crossed paths with TK is lucky to be alive.



    Bobo confirmed officers are closely examining his social media activity for clues to his crimes and whether he used his work as a realtor to snare his victims making the photograph part if the investigation.
    Postings on Amazon by a user named 'Me' on a wish list linked to his name began in 2014, close to the time he purchased the farmland and told local hunters to keep off in future saying: 'You're hunting days are over'



    On November 3rd, he added on Facebook: 'We need ebola to come as a huge snowstorm, wipe out half the population, then melt away…just tired of entitlement, rude ass people for no reason..people who race to cut in front of you to slam on brakes to make right turn…and that mother------ that stands in the isle( sic) at the grocery store ( and dude you know who you are) that blocks the isle (sic) checking out the microbrews and blocking everyone on their way to their average Michellob…***** move.'



    Officers said they did not yet know the motive as to why the married couple were shot dead or the type of gun or bullets used.
    But Clavenger added: 'There were some parts of the bodies we were not able to recover. But I really don't want to get into that because there is an open investigation.
    Police refused to reveal how the suspect mass murderer came into contact with the couple or how they came to be on Kohlepp's 95-acre land in Woodruff.



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-dungeon.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by soanyway View Post
    That was the first thing I thought, IMO the holidays were definitely a troubling time for TK. If she was incarcerated till 12-18, I think the article referencing at least 11 months buried is a little off. But if he killed them right away, hopefully there was not a longer captivity involved. I'm still perplexed on how they could identify the tattoos and yet not have recovered all of their remains. Also, not sure what to make with MM being shot in the head and JC shot in the torso (CDC in his upper extremities, IIRC). Did he want the men to suffer more?
    I think he killed the men so that they would suffer and the female would immediately be submissive.
    I think he got more pleasure watching the men suffer as they died.
    The women he got pleasure from keeping them and torturing them. The head shot was more like "Blegh I'd done. Next." The actual killing of the female wasn't pleasurable as the torturing for an extended period of time. When he was done he was done. On to the next victim.
    The male dying was him showing dominance over the male victim and showing the female what he was capable of. JMOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveLight View Post
    I think he killed the men so that they would suffer and the female would immediately be submissive.
    I think he got more pleasure watching the men suffer as they died.
    The women he got pleasure from keeping them and torturing them. The head shot was more like "Blegh I'd done. Next." The actual killing of the female wasn't pleasurable as the torturing for an extended period of time. When he was done he was done. On to the next victim.
    The male dying was him showing dominance over the male victim and showing the female what he was capable of. JMOO
    I wholeheartedly agree with this! He seemed to delight in using men to torture the women in their lives, and we've already noted that this started as early as the first kidnapping and rape. Women are 'HIS property to do with as he pleases, and there'll be no other man in their life', seems to be his arrogant and entitled way of thinking. I've absolutely felt that since reading that disturbing response he left on his own facebook post, where somebody else was mentioning peacocks and TK said 'the only c*ck' on the property was his. He gives me the creeps. Poor KB and MC, being left with him.

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    I find it telling that family says they only were told by Meagan there was a "good job." K and C didn't tell anyone what they were doing. Makes me wonder if it is a type of job you would be told not to share or wouldn't want to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    after a year they would have decomposed significantly but their tattoos were visible.... do you think he dismembered them? why not Charlie then? oh man this guy is a ghoul...
    He would have had to remove some parts at least.
    The reason I say that is they were buried so deep they needed backhoes. There's no way animals could have gotten to them to scatter parts.
    (Sorry if that was too blunt )
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    I thought she had the baby in sept?
    Hmmm if that is true then...
    Either she was breastfeeding and passed it to the baby or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by soanyway View Post
    Just found this article that includes many of TK's cryptic FB posts and Amazon reviews. It also references the money he wanted transferred to the account for the girl's college. Does that mean she is an adult? I initially thought it may have been a child (not sure why). I know there is no logic with crazy, but I keep wondering what the motive could possibly have been for killing this young couple? Why did he shoot JC multiple times, but MC only once? He has 20+ years on them and is obviously not a spry individual. IMO, he must've had a very elaborate plan prior to setting it in motion or they may have stood a chance at overpowering him. Back to the motive, all I get is hate. Evil spewed by deep rooted hate. It appears that the least little incident could've provoked him into such rage. IMO, anyone that crossed paths with TK is lucky to be alive.



    Bobo confirmed officers are closely examining his social media activity for clues to his crimes and whether he used his work as a realtor to snare his victims making the photograph part if the investigation.
    Postings on Amazon by a user named 'Me' on a wish list linked to his name began in 2014, close to the time he purchased the farmland and told local hunters to keep off in future saying: 'You're hunting days are over'



    On November 3rd, he added on Facebook: 'We need ebola to come as a huge snowstorm, wipe out half the population, then melt away…just tired of entitlement, rude ass people for no reason..people who race to cut in front of you to slam on brakes to make right turn…and that mother------ that stands in the isle( sic) at the grocery store ( and dude you know who you are) that blocks the isle (sic) checking out the microbrews and blocking everyone on their way to their average Michellob…***** move.'



    Officers said they did not yet know the motive as to why the married couple were shot dead or the type of gun or bullets used.
    But Clavenger added: 'There were some parts of the bodies we were not able to recover. But I really don't want to get into that because there is an open investigation.
    Police refused to reveal how the suspect mass murderer came into contact with the couple or how they came to be on Kohlepp's 95-acre land in Woodruff.



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-dungeon.html

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    I Think the college thing is hush money honestly. "keep your mouth shut about what you know and I will pay your child's college." He doesn't have that kind of emotion to worry about such things. It had a purpose.
    The young couple? Maybe he's pissed and jealous that he missed that being in prison?
    I agree he was easily provoked and I feel most of it was imagined. Just reading the quotes tells me that he was paranoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juststonelegal View Post
    i wholeheartedly agree with this! He seemed to delight in using men to torture the women in their lives, and we've already noted that this started as early as the first kidnapping and rape. Women are 'his property to do with as he pleases, and there'll be no other man in their life', seems to be his arrogant and entitled way of thinking. I've absolutely felt that since reading that disturbing response he left on his own facebook post, where somebody else was mentioning peacocks and tk said 'the only c*ck' on the property was his. He gives me the creeps. Poor kb and mc, being left with him.
    agree!
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    So...2 questions.

    Is there an original thread on WS when these 2 went missing last year?

    And...do you think that money he asked to be transfered was the Coxies child?

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    1. No - No one in the wider public knew they were missing. It seems the mother made an appeal once and his sister made an appeal on FB in April but that was it.
    2. No I think the Sheriff confirmed the money was not for their baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveLight View Post
    I think he killed the men so that they would suffer and the female would immediately be submissive.
    I think he got more pleasure watching the men suffer as they died.
    The women he got pleasure from keeping them and torturing them. The head shot was more like "Blegh I'd done. Next." The actual killing of the female wasn't pleasurable as the torturing for an extended period of time. When he was done he was done. On to the next victim.
    The male dying was him showing dominance over the male victim and showing the female what he was capable of. JMOO
    Agreed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    I thought she had the baby in sept?
    The article was rather vague as to what made them test the baby for drugs, so I wondered if maybe she had taken the baby in for a well-check or something, and it was somehow discovered during that visit. I would think maybe she was breastfeeding and it was passed along to the baby in that manner. Also, I don't know how long heroin stays in a person's body once they've used. Meagan admitted to using heroin and Suboxone during the first 6 months of her pregnancy, so maybe it stayed in her body for months afterwards and was passed along to the baby that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveLight View Post
    Hmmm if that is true then...
    Either she was breastfeeding and passed it to the baby or...
    I think she was breastfeeding and passed it along that way too. Or maybe she gave it to the child to stop it from crying or something? People do some crazy things when kids won't be quiet sometimes. Remember the daycare that was dipping pacifiers in Nyquil to make the children sleep?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryNight View Post
    The article was rather vague as to what made them test the baby for drugs, so I wondered if maybe she had taken the baby in for a well-check or something, and it was somehow discovered during that visit. I would think maybe she was breastfeeding and it was passed along to the baby in that manner. Also, I don't know how long heroin stays in a person's body once they've used. Meagan admitted to using heroin and Suboxone during the first 6 months of her pregnancy, so maybe it stayed in her body for months afterwards and was passed along to the baby that way.



    I think she was breastfeeding and passed it along that way too. Or maybe she gave it to the child to stop it from crying or something? People do some crazy things when kids won't be quiet sometimes. Remember the daycare that was dipping pacifiers in Nyquil to make the children sleep?
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