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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    Thanks for finding this.

    It will be subject to appeal once there is a final judgment in the case. But it is almost impossible to have a search warrant invalidated on appeal.
    That's the whole enchilada doc, actually, the Jan 2016 denial of the DT's Motion to Suppress ALL evidence found on all phones and electronic devices.

    It's also worth the read for Staley's narrative about how LE conducted their initial investigation.
    RIP, Cassini. To her tireless overseers- job well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
    Agree. I believe that some things morally wrong are different legally. I def think RH is wrong about the sexting minors. I def think the minors were wrong too. 2 different things to me (minors are not on trial here but are equally wrong. JMHO no way they can be justified not to know what they did was wrong) And again, on the phone, just going by what surely will be an appeal issue because Def has already brought it up in hearings. Why RH did or didn't assert his right to not give password /not give. We have no clue.

    JMHO, my opinion doesn't make a hill of beans on any outcome of this case. Or the other either. I would think the State and Defense know more about what is what than any of us. I just following along.
    Additionally, the teen, "Chelsea" came forward to LE on her own. She's the one who told them she'd had contact with RH on June 18, the day Cooper was killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minor4th View Post
    arkansasmimi - I can't quote your post from the last thread but wanted to say something about your comments on the search, warrants, probable cause and "fruit of the poisonous tree."

    I think there is virtually no chance the search warrants will be invalidated on review or that any further acquired evidence will be suppressed.

    Can you explain why you think this is an issue?


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    Haven't a clue if they will or won't be. Just making not that Kilgore has raised the issue and that JMHO was putting on the record for appeals purposes. That was prior to the March 2016 indictments. I am not sure if they have had any hearing on those charges or not. Personally I was not aware of them until GA Peach told me and it was confusing at first looking at the docket. JMHO if Kilgore brought it up on these charges, do you think he will or wont't on those 8 charges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayemonde View Post
    RSBM.

    I don't know. He googled age of consent, so he presumably knew what he was doing was illegal, yet he carried on. If one of the underage girls had offered to meet up with him for sex, would he have said no? I find that hard to believe. But we will never know for sure.

    I'm glad he got caught before he could meet up with any underage girls (as far as we know), but I feel very sorry for the girls and women who got dragged into this mess. How absolutely traumatic to have to testify in court about then sexting you did. Even if the underage girls willingly sent the pictures, they could not have foreseen the consequences! Their hormones are all over the place and they are discovering their sexuality and experimenting, and they probably though that what they were doing was harmless and completely anonymous, and I hope they have not been too traumatised by all this.

    The State wasn't referring to escalation of his sexual activities in general, they were referring to an overall escalation of everything, including his problems at work, in the very specific timeframe of May - June, 2014.

    I don't see the evidence to support that contention about his sexual activities (he had sexted with minors going back as far as 2 years). His work, not even sure, because we weren't presented with evidence about just when it was he began slacking off. All we heard was that he demonstrated great promise as an intern, then not so much.

    Do we know when he googled age of consent? I thought whatever witness said that couldn't be determined? In any case, I don't interpret that sesrch as an escalation of what he was already doing and continued to do, so much as a willful choice to disregard any potential consequences. Recklessness, perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
    The State wasn't referring to escalation of his sexual activities in general, they were referring to an overall escalation of everything, including his problems at work, in the very specific timeframe of May - June, 2014.

    I don't see the evidence to support that contention about his sexual activities (he had sexted with minors going back as far as 2 years). His work, not even sure, because we weren't presented with evidence about just when it was he began slacking off. All we heard was that he demonstrated great promise as an intern, then not so much.

    Fo we know when he googled age of consent? I thought whatever witness said that couldn't be determined? In any case, I don't interpret that sesrch as an escalation of what he was already doing and continued to do, so much as a willful choice to disregard any potential consequences. Recklessness, perhaps?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-...royed-my-life/

    But Taylor spoke of her former husband in much harsher terms Tuesday after prosecutors questioned how well she really knew him. Evidence in the trial has shown Harris, not long before his son’s death, met a prostitute for sex. He went online seeking sexual encounters with men and women. The day Cooper died, Harris was swapping sexual text messages with a 17-year-old girl, asking for a photo of her breasts.

    “Basically you had no idea how his behavior was escalating over the years,” prosecutor Chuck Boring said.

    Taylor broke down. She had previously said sexual problems plagued her marriage to Harris and they sought counseling years earlier after he confessed to frequently viewing pornography. Taylor said she hadn’t known until after their son’s death that Harris was having physical affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    The double standards in this thread are astounding. On the one hand, 15 year old girls who are asked to send pictures of their genitals to an adult man share blame for their actions. It doesn't matter that these girls don't have fully formed brains and that the man's actions are illegal. The girls are not "blameness."

    On the other hand, we have a grown man, who has experience in LE, give LE his phone password, and people are crying foul. If he didn't want his phone searched, Ross should not have given them his password. He would have been completely within his right to deny consent.
    I agree! I can't wrap my mind around being a RH apologist given all we know. In terms of the young girls sharing responsibility for the images they sent: NO. IMO: Girls who are seeking out attention from older men at such a young age likely do not have the best self esteem and may not have supportive families. They are looking for something to fill a gap and are much more vulnerable IMO. We've discussed cases of missing girls who had questionable online behavior and they don't get blamed for how their actions contributed to their situation. We don't blame girls for being groomed by predators. We know nothing about these girls or what has led them to think it is a good choice to send photos of their bodies to strangers.

    They are victims of RH. We don't blame victims at WS, so stop blaming those girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsicle View Post
    Vinnie says the jury appears happy and refreshed today.
    Maybe they had a decision Thursday and decided to take the weekend to make sure they felt it was the right choice.

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    Got started late and already taking a morning break.. never seen a jury like this


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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-...royed-my-life/

    But Taylor spoke of her former husband in much harsher terms Tuesday after prosecutors questioned how well she really knew him. Evidence in the trial has shown Harris, not long before his son’s death, met a prostitute for sex. He went online seeking sexual encounters with men and women. The day Cooper died, Harris was swapping sexual text messages with a 17-year-old girl, asking for a photo of her breasts.

    “Basically you had no idea how his behavior was escalating over the years,” prosecutor Chuck Boring said.

    Taylor broke down. She had previously said sexual problems plagued her marriage to Harris and they sought counseling years earlier after he confessed to frequently viewing pornography. Taylor said she hadn’t known until after their son’s death that Harris was having physical affairs.
    Tex, the State referring to that " escalation " within the context of their marriage isn't the context for their use of escalation to make a malice case against RH.

    May-early June. Escalation. "Prostitutes. I want to be single. Failing at work. The joker drains my bank account. Sometimes I don't want to be married. Ms Meadows the motive. A response to a Whisper meme- "my breaking point is pretty low right now," May 30, 2014. " ESCAPE.......
    RIP, Cassini. To her tireless overseers- job well done.

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    Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
    Agree. I believe that some things morally wrong are different legally. I def think RH is wrong about the sexting minors. I def think the minors were wrong too. 2 different things to me (minors are not on trial here but are equally wrong. JMHO no way they can be justified not to know what they did was wrong) And again, on the phone, just going by what surely will be an appeal issue because Def has already brought it up in hearings. Why RH did or didn't assert his right to not give password /not give. We have no clue.

    JMHO, my opinion doesn't make a hill of beans on any outcome of this case. Or the other either. I would think the State and Defense know more about what is what than any of us. I just following along.
    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    Additionally, the teen, "Chelsea" came forward to LE on her own. She's the one who told them she'd had contact with RH on June 18, the day Cooper was killed.
    RBBM, thanks never heard that. Do you know when this was talked about?TIA. Chelsea D testimony was blacked out so we didn't hear hers.

    I know from testimony, that one of the witnesses that RH had sexted with was at Hilton Head with her family on June 18, 2014. RH had asked her for a bj. She didn't come forward, but her friend did and told CCPD. Kilgore asked the witness if she ever did, she said no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
    RBBM, thanks never heard that. Do you know when this was talked about?TIA. Chelsea D testimony was blacked out so we didn't hear hers.

    I know from testimony, that one of the witnesses that RH had sexted with was at Hilton Head with her family on June 18, 2014. RH had asked her for a bj. She didn't come forward, but her friend did and told CCPD. Kilgore asked the witness if she ever did, she said no.
    She came forward in June, 2014, which is why allegations about minors were raised in the early July probable cause hearing.
    RIP, Cassini. To her tireless overseers- job well done.

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    Even if the jury hangs on the malice or felony murder, can't they still give verdicts on the other sexting charges? I mean, if hung on one charge, doesn't mean hung on all...right? Or not?
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    How can I get a notification when the jury reaches a verdict? I don't have twitter.

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