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    Post Verdict - Ross Harris Trial

    Ross Harris was found guilty on all counts on Monday, November 14, 2016.

    Count 1 Malice Murder (Mandatory life sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 2 Felony Murder (Mandatory life sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 3 Felony Murder (Mandatory life sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 4 Cruelty to Children in the First Degree (5-to-20 year sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 5 Cruelty to Children in the Second Degree (1-to-10 year sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 6 Criminal Attempt to Commit a Felony (10 year sentence) - GUILTY


    Count 7 Dissemination of Pornography to Minors (12 month sentence; $5,000 fine) - GUILTY


    Count 8 Dissemination of Pornography to Minors (12 month sentence; $5,000 fine) - GUILTY

    http://www.11alive.com/news/local/ro...unts/349295692


    Sentencing is set for 1:30 pm December 5, 2016 in Cobb County

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/217351519-story

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    Thanks for the new thread!

    Sorry for any confusion regarding LT's employment that I may have perpetrated in the last thread. I assumed her unemployment was short-lived and ran with that. I think that where we currently stand is that there has been no official word on her employment since August 2014. If that's the case then I don't know enough to even begin to form an opinion.

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    Post Verdict - Ross Harris Trial

    I just sentenced RH in my own little world.
    I am lenient and give him 122 years and a day.
    I hope someone gives him a nice goin.away.to.the.crow.bar.motel.party, with Chick-filet catering. All for you Ross!
    Don't worry your self RH, I'm sure they will leave the light on for ya.
    Your new uniform will be white with blue trim and one blue stripe on each pant leg. Nice.

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    Last edited by U2forever; 11-17-2016 at 05:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie Vi View Post
    Thanks for the new thread!

    Sorry for any confusion regarding LT's employment that I may have perpetrated in the last thread. I assumed her unemployment was short-lived and ran with that. I think that where we currently stand is that there has been no official word on her employment since August 2014. If that's the case then I don't know enough to even begin to form an opinion.

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    George and CIndy Anthony didnt go back to work but instead filed for disability. how about that, you birth and raise a kid that makes you so crazy you have to file for SS disability lol

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    I wasn't very active on the Ross forum but I watched it and lurked. I have a question. Why is it two counts of felony murder?


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    In a parking lot today walking back to my car, I passed a Tucson. I wasn't familiar with this car, so I kinda looked inside. It's a relatively small car, as a lot of you know. I just hadn't seen one. I imagined the body mass of RH and the space he would fill in that car. Looked at the space between the two front seats and where that car seat would have fit. The windows aren't that dark, and I suppose the Harris vehicle had factory tint on the windows - nothing else. I would think the defense would have pointed it out if the windows were darker. It was possible to see something light colored in the back seat.

    But as I walked away, I realized I had approached the car from the rear, and I could see into the back seat. He backed into the space that day and only approached the car from the front. I literally felt a little dip in my stomach! He purposefully parked the car in that position. Should anyone have suggested he could have seen Cooper when he approached the car, he had problem-solved that little detail.

    This should go on our list of coincidences.

    Didn't think I could feel more sorrow for that little boy until this. At least no one was around in the parking lot, as I stood there saying SOB over and over and over.

    May RH gather hoards of new friends in the penitentiary.

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    Funny that you say that. I had never seen one either until today. Someone pulled up to my next door neighbors in a red one and I couldn't help myself...I toured the entire thing and I completely agree with you!!!!!!!!!
    Plus, dang, that is a small car. He is a massive chubba bubba...idk how he was even comfortable in there.after seeing that today I knew in my heart everything I surmised was right. There just isn't anyway possible he forgot that baby.

    I lost my breath today as I hung my head and came back into my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    Funny that you say that. I had never seen one either until today. Someone pulled up to my next door neighbors in a red one and I couldn't help myself...I toured the entire thing and I completely agree with you!!!!!!!!!
    Plus, dang, that is a small car. He is a massive chubba bubba...idk how he was even comfortable in there.after seeing that today I knew in my heart everything I surmised was right. There just isn't anyway possible he forgot that baby.

    I lost my breath today as I hung my head and came back into my house.
    IMO when the jury was able to see the car for themselves, they knew it could not have been an accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    IMO when the jury was able to see the car for themselves, they knew it could not have been an accident
    Now that I've seen one I absolutely agree. I didn't even need to see the car seat in place. Knowing where it was and this person had the seat back as far they could as well...so I got an idea of it all. You couldn't see that and not know. Explains why jurors were crying when the saw it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    Now that I've seen one I absolutely agree. I didn't even need to see the car seat in place. Knowing where it was and this person had the seat back as far they could as well...so I got an idea of it all. You couldn't see that and not know. Explains why jurors were crying when the saw it
    Exactly. And he is tall, so his field of vision was pretty good.

    But what really stopped me from breathing today was the realization that approaching that car from the front was likely part of the plan.

    Breaks our collective hearts!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriously? View Post
    Exactly. And he is tall, so his field of vision was pretty good.

    But what really stopped me from breathing today was the realization that approaching that car from the front was likely part of the plan.

    Breaks our collective hearts!
    Yes, incredibly sad. I'm glad I can't understand it. I can't imagine having such a black and evil heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    Now that I've seen one I absolutely agree. I didn't even need to see the car seat in place. Knowing where it was and this person had the seat back as far they could as well...so I got an idea of it all. You couldn't see that and not know. Explains why jurors were crying when the saw it
    Absolutely agree. They had seen Ross every day in court, then saw the car and car seat proximity. Literally 3-6 inches from where his shoulders would be.
    Not possible for it to be accidental.

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    True story.
    There was a hot car death recently. The baby girl's mother forgot to drop her off at day care that was within sight of her workplace. Horrible accident. A child is dead. The DA must call a GJ. The GJ refused to indict the mother.

    The GJ considered:
    The mother had recently informed her employer that she would resign her position in September, 2016 in order to stay home with her child, which was about six weeks before her daughter died inside her hot car.

    The mother's routine was interrupted and irregular in routine that particular morning.

    A friend knows a lady who works with the mother. My friend said her friend is devastated because the vehicle was parked right outside her office window. The lady has blamed herself for not looking, or hearing, or somehow seeing the child locked inside a hot car and continues to carry an albatross of guilt.

    So, I ask, how is the mother doing. My friend's reply was that the mother is doing good. She is back at work, and so on. Doesn't it sound as if the devastated person was the mother's coworker?

    And another true story is that my sister's baby son died from natural causes. Every. single. day. for months she went to his graveside where she remained until it was time to close the cemetery gates. She knew her Austin was not there and she knew he wasn't at home in his crib either. She could barely walk unassisted for a week and struggled with insomnia and depression for months. Work? There was no way. But she did boomerang. She soon had another son who has probably never wanted anything in his life that he didn't receive!

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    That's a good point and I think this evidence is what really sealed the deal for the jurors. It's just hard to imagine how he had no memory recollection or could not have seen him during the lunch visit. I know people that know him and their opinion goes along with the defense witnesses that he could not have done this on purpose. It still does match up to the evidence so it was really an up-mountain climb Kilgore.

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    I heard Kilgore stating he would appeal. JMO but I do not see any way this case is over-turned. I'm not a legal expert by any means so do not really know the process. My whole question about the case remains RH's mental state. It seems based on the defense witnesses and even LTH that if in fact he did do this on purpose he had to have some type of mental or substance problem. I think the prosecution thought they would not have benefited from any drug test or mental evaluation. It's a moot point but I'm still curious what both of those tests would have revealed. Basically what they were saying is his actions pointed to him being a total narcissist. It seems he would have had some prior history of dual personality or drug abuse. Again, all moot points now. I expect he is sentenced to life without parole.

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