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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie Vi View Post
    Thanks for finding that information! I wonder why the license hasn't been updated to reflect her legal last name? She did have it changed back to Taylor legally in the divorce, right?

    Interesting catch you made about ties to the case being a hindrance to finding work yet not having the license reflect the name change. Very observant. I assume it wasn't a priority because she might currently be employed. I'd hate to make justifications for her though because we saw what happened when she made excuses for RH. It's a slippery slope.




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    The Patriot Act changed some things related to employment. At least in my state, which isn't Georgia or Alabama, your name must match on all documents - Social Security card, professional license and driver's license. I would assume since this is a federal law, there's consistency.

    You're right, though. She may now be employed. It's just not a good idea to let the license go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCTeacher View Post
    As for Leanna and her lack of her employment, I recall her attorney stating back in 2014 that she has been unable to find employment due to her connection to this case. I am pretty sure that means, due to all the heavy backlash in the public--nobody wants to hire her. Can't say I blame them---she, through no fault of her own, would stir up the gossip crowds of workplaces into a complete frenzy.

    I've spoken with her on facebook personally and she was stunned that people actually are willing to donate to the Memorial Park on her behalf. In her words "surprised by all that has happened" that anyone would be willing to help. She seems very grateful to those of us who are sparing what money we can to help her memorialize her son the way he deserves to be. I am thankful to her for allowing us to help her, despite how I, myself, have treated her in the public sphere--for which, I have apologized to her personally.
    Since you've spoken to her on facebook, is she aware that a very ODD page was set up on GFM a few days ago for donations for a marker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco View Post
    Since you've spoken to her on facebook, is she aware that a very ODD page was set up on GFM a few days ago for donations for a marker?
    I am just not buying this no money thing. I really don't think she ever intended on doing a headstone And is essentially being forced into it by the public.
    Let's says it's real...it's been 2.5 years. If she saved $10 a week from day one until today she would have saved somewhere around $1400. $10 a week. She got $23,000 from the fund raiser that was paid to her as it came in..no waiting. $65 for a nice child size stone.
    Call me whatever you want, but it's just not rational.
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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/justin-ross...ry?id=43558099

    Juror No. 3, Candi Parrish, told ABC News that the jurors were leaning toward guilt from the first vote.

    "At first vote, all 12 [jurors] leaned toward guilty. Three were unsure completely and wanted to review more evidence," Parish said of the deliberation process.

    Parrish, a 23-year-old married, stay-at-home mother, explained how she came to the guilty verdict.

    "There were too many factors that played throughout his day that you wouldn't forget your child in the car,” she said. "To say he literally drove just 1/2 mile to work -- only five minutes -- and forgot his child is unbelievable. I think it is really hard to do something like that.

    "He actually mentioned that he forgot to take his double-look,” she added. “He knew those steps, but he didn't take them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMex View Post
    IMO when the jury was able to see the car for themselves, they knew it could not have been an accident
    At that exact moment I believe that's when Kilgore knew he lost the case. After that point, he seemed disinterested in trying the case any longer.

    Especially when he ran back in to court at this point and screamed he wanted a MISTRIAL, based on the fact that the jurors saw the car (which both sides agreed to).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/justin-ross...ry?id=43558099

    Juror No. 3, Candi Parrish, told ABC News that the jurors were leaning toward guilt from the first vote.

    "At first vote, all 12 [jurors] leaned toward guilty. Three were unsure completely and wanted to review more evidence," Parish said of the deliberation process.

    Parrish, a 23-year-old married, stay-at-home mother, explained how she came to the guilty verdict.

    "There were too many factors that played throughout his day that you wouldn't forget your child in the car,” she said. "To say he literally drove just 1/2 mile to work -- only five minutes -- and forgot his child is unbelievable. I think it is really hard to do something like that.

    "He actually mentioned that he forgot to take his double-look,” she added. “He knew those steps, but he didn't take them."
    Thank you! I stopped to get a breakfast sandwich the other day before work and saw this on GMA which was playing in the background but I have been unable to find the MSM text!!!

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    Some post-verdict comments from both sides:

    Reynolds explains Harris' actions are what made this a malice murder case.

    "Not only leading up to that day but what his actions were that day," Reynolds said. "You begin seeing what his history is what his lifestyle is. You pull the curtain back on this literal second life he lead."

    As lead prosecutor Chuck Boring explained the main points he thinks proved malice.

    "The inside of the car, the defendants time line, his statements he made 10 minutes before locking that child in the car about needing an escape from that child I think those were all kind of key elements that went into it," Boring said.

    A big court moment, Harris' ex wife Leanna Taylor testified as a defense witness. Boring explains their strategy for not calling her first. "We decided it would be much easier and a much better way to approach asking questions in a cross examination as she would not talk to us at all," Boring said.

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    Carlos Rodriguez was one of three attorneys representing Harris in his malice murder trial.

    "Obviously disappointed in the outcome," Rodriguez said. He added if he had it to do over again he wouldn't change his strategy.

    "Every time we go home we think of could I have asked this question differently could this have been more effective with this witness, but we are incredibly proud of the work," Rodriguez said.

    CBS46 has learned the issue of jurors going outside the courtroom to view the car will likely come up again in court. "That's going to be potentially an appellate issue so it wouldn't be appropriate for me to talk about that right now," Rodriguez said. "We made those objections during the trial."

    Also, all charges being lumped together will be another issue. "We objected to those counts being tried along with the cruelty and murder counts," Rodriguez said. "We made an excellent record of that so yes that's going to be an appellate issue."

    Harris' ex-wife Leanna was a big witness the defense hoped would have a bigger impact on the jurors. "It did not lead the jury to find him not guilty of the murder charges obviously," Rodriguez said. "We believe that she testified brilliantly. She was honest. She was strong which is the kind of person she is."

    http://www.wtoc.com/story/33739404/a...guilty-verdict

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    I am just not buying this no money thing. I really don't think she ever intended on doing a headstone And is essentially being forced into it by the public.
    Let's says it's real...it's been 2.5 years. If she saved $10 a week from day one until today she would have saved somewhere around $1400. $10 a week. She got $23,000 from the fund raiser that was paid to her as it came in..no waiting. $65 for a nice child size stone.
    Call me whatever you want, but it's just not rational.

    I have such a difficult time with this case that I can only come on here sparingly.

    To that end I'll say this; I have some friends who lost a niece to SIDS. This was also the first grandchild in the family. This was a little over two years ago and to say that this has devastated them is an understatement.

    They could not afford a headstone at the very first so they had a friend make one out of cement and they adorned it with beautiful tiles and ceramic angels ect... It was made out of LOVE.

    Whenever I question someone's behavior I stand back and look at the big picture. The behavior of this mother and father in my opinion are HIGHLY questionable. And when it doesn't make sense then to me it's because it's a LIE.


    What mother out there would allow her child to lie in the grave without trying to get him a nice headstone? ESPECIALLY when he died of tragic circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl View Post
    Some post-verdict comments from both sides:

    Reynolds explains Harris' actions are what made this a malice murder case.

    "Not only leading up to that day but what his actions were that day," Reynolds said. "You begin seeing what his history is what his lifestyle is. You pull the curtain back on this literal second life he lead."

    As lead prosecutor Chuck Boring explained the main points he thinks proved malice.

    "The inside of the car, the defendants time line, his statements he made 10 minutes before locking that child in the car about needing an escape from that child I think those were all kind of key elements that went into it," Boring said.

    A big court moment, Harris' ex wife Leanna Taylor testified as a defense witness. Boring explains their strategy for not calling her first. "We decided it would be much easier and a much better way to approach asking questions in a cross examination as she would not talk to us at all," Boring said.

    ___

    Carlos Rodriguez was one of three attorneys representing Harris in his malice murder trial.

    "Obviously disappointed in the outcome," Rodriguez said. He added if he had it to do over again he wouldn't change his strategy.

    "Every time we go home we think of could I have asked this question differently could this have been more effective with this witness, but we are incredibly proud of the work," Rodriguez said.

    CBS46 has learned the issue of jurors going outside the courtroom to view the car will likely come up again in court. "That's going to be potentially an appellate issue so it wouldn't be appropriate for me to talk about that right now," Rodriguez said. "We made those objections during the trial."

    Also, all charges being lumped together will be another issue. "We objected to those counts being tried along with the cruelty and murder counts," Rodriguez said. "We made an excellent record of that so yes that's going to be an appellate issue."

    Harris' ex-wife Leanna was a big witness the defense hoped would have a bigger impact on the jurors. "It did not lead the jury to find him not guilty of the murder charges obviously," Rodriguez said. "We believe that she testified brilliantly. She was honest. She was strong which is the kind of person she is."

    http://www.wtoc.com/story/33739404/a...guilty-verdict
    Ya, well the reason your strategy didn't matter there Rodriquez is because your client is a lying POS who killed his son. All the rest of this is yesterday's oatmeal.

    Long ago and many years ago I fantasized about being a lawyer. I can't stand it. Appealing and arguing the defense of someone like this would haunt me to the grave.

    Arguing that the jurors shouldn't have been let outside to see the very van that the child roasted in? Inexcusable. Why shouldn't have they? Because they could see the TRUTH then? It's all so beyond me I can't stand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBsleuthin View Post
    Ya, well the reason your strategy didn't matter there Rodriquez is because your client is a lying POS who killed his son. All the rest of this is yesterday's oatmeal.

    Long ago and many years ago I fantasized about being a lawyer. I can't stand it. Appealing and arguing the defense of someone like this would haunt me to the grave.

    Arguing that the jurors shouldn't have been let outside to see the very van that the child roasted in? Inexcusable. Why shouldn't have they? Because they could see the TRUTH then? It's all so beyond me I can't stand it.
    It was a crime scene that couldn't be brought into the court room. Plain and simple IMO.
    You bring a knife or gun used into a trial, in this case the car WAS the weapon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    It was a crime scene that couldn't be brought into the court room. Plain and simple IMO.
    You bring a knife or gun used into a trial, in this case the car WAS the weapon.
    Very well put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj125 View Post
    It was a crime scene that couldn't be brought into the court room. Plain and simple IMO.
    You bring a knife or gun used into a trial, in this case the car WAS the weapon.
    As I posted on previous thread, a 22-month-old child who literally baked to death in a hot car was the "smoking gun" in this case. And, yes, the car was the weapon - a death chamber like the oven where many will roast their holiday

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    Quote:Harris' ex-wife Leanna was a big witness the defense hoped would have a bigger impact on the jurors. "It did not lead the jury to find him not guilty of the murder charges obviously," Rodriguez said. "We believe that she testified brilliantly. She was honest. She was strong which is the kind of person she is."

    It's funny to me how people can hear and see the same thing and yet have such different opinions.
    If I were on the jury, I'd have left the court room thinking 'why is she not being charged?'
    But that's JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GA_Peach View Post
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/justin-ross...ry?id=43558099

    Juror No. 3, Candi Parrish, told ABC News that the jurors were leaning toward guilt from the first vote.

    "At first vote, all 12 [jurors] leaned toward guilty. Three were unsure completely and wanted to review more evidence," Parish said of the deliberation process.

    Parrish, a 23-year-old married, stay-at-home mother, explained how she came to the guilty verdict.

    "There were too many factors that played throughout his day that you wouldn't forget your child in the car,” she said. "To say he literally drove just 1/2 mile to work -- only five minutes -- and forgot his child is unbelievable. I think it is really hard to do something like that.

    "He actually mentioned that he forgot to take his double-look,” she added. “He knew those steps, but he didn't take them."
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    Ross is getting the escape he was looking for. Lol.

    I hate getting forced vacations the day before a verdict is read. I missed you guys.

    But I was a long time lurker all week long.

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