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    And the lawsuit just went national....


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e73e0e3dceb4

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    Here you go, You may wish to review my comments on WS starting in 2009


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    I've been looking with sex abuse boys Paynesville Minnesota chicken turkey farm. Any of those combos and have come up with nothing. But I know for a fact that it is true. A year or 2 after, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    I did not know we had so many child predators in the small towns of upper MN! Read this piece about Duane Allen Hart: http://mn.findacase.com/research/wfr...0003.mn.htm/qx

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    I have no name for the turkey farm worker.

    This sure sounds like the guy though!!!!

    There is nothing on line about him at all except that court case!

    it is him. If you can find more articles in Paynesville, see if he is the turkey farm guy that they say had nothing to do with Jacob.

    This so sounds like him because he had molested so many boys!

    The fact he fits the time frame and is from Paynesville! How many molesters of that magnitude can there be?

    Is he the one that was dismissed about Jared?????????



    The obit I have is anormal obit.

    His mother did not believe the charges? Wow.

    I would really like to see his picture, please!

    I wonder if he lived on the farm?

    Why did I think it was Paynesville?

    So there is some perp that was attacking kids in 1987 in Paynesville?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    human, I subscribed to Paynesville newspaper archives and came across an article from Jan 30, 1990 for someone named Duane Hart. He offered boys presents and money to lure them. He was arrested for fondling boys from 1987 to 1989 and involved 15 and 11 year old boys. So
    The fact he fits the time frame and is from Paynesville! How many molesters of that magnitude can there be?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    human, I subscribed to Paynesville newspaper archives and came across an article from Jan 30, 1990 for someone named Duane Hart. He offered boys presents and money to lure them. He was arrested for fondling boys from 1987 to 1989 and involved 15 and 11 year old boys. So


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    The fact he fits the time frame and is from Paynesville! How many molesters of that magnitude can there be?

    Is he the one that was dismissed about Jared?????????



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrown324320 View Post
    human, I subscribed to Paynesville newspaper archives and came across an article from Jan 30, 1990 for someone named Duane Hart. He offered boys presents and money to lure them. He was arrested for fondling boys from 1987 to 1989 and involved 15 and 11 year old boys. So


    THERE YOU GO! You must have missed it
    You have it all wrong, Human. Joy Baker was the one who discovered the Paynesville assaults all on her own, remember? Even Patty Wetterling says so, so therefore it must be true, right? It's been published in many newspapers and tv stories. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    And the lawsuit just went national....


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e73e0e3dceb4
    Sanner is a cancer in the department. Cold spring Decker case, Wetterling, guimond, he has biffed and been dishonest in every one. Now he won't even be truthful about why he is really retiring. Because of this right here. Your welcome Sanner.

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    I also have to be a little concerned that sanners best friend who complains about time and money is taking over, Bechtold. Two days after he complained about that in the wetterling case, Jesse Dady went missing and I immeduately felt like I bet this is the last thing Stearns county wanted now, and that is just awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch321 View Post
    I also have to be a little concerned that sanners best friend who complains about time and money is taking over, Bechtold. Two days after he complained about that in the wetterling case, Jesse Dady went missing and I immeduately felt like I bet this is the last thing Stearns county wanted now, and that is just awful.
    I think Bechtold will be fine. He has said some awfully heartless things since the Wetterling case has been solved, but I think he'll turn the department around. I hope so anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    I think Bechtold will be fine. He has said some awfully heartless things since the Wetterling case has been solved, but I think he'll turn the department around. I hope so anyway.
    Hopefully the Guimonds who had a pathetic one year effort put into their case feel the same. They've done yearly searches for Brandon Swanson out of marshall, mn. Here they did one and the abbey won't allow any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    You have it all wrong, Human. Joy Baker was the one who discovered the Paynesville assaults all on her own, remember? Even Patty Wetterling says so, so therefore it must be true, right? It's been published in many newspapers and tv stories. :-)
    Yes. But the dates and times are listed here, so strange, shall we say, that she makes the claim. And of course, I was asking in 2009 about Hart on here, but got no answers until this in 2010. Could not remember his name and had it all comfused with Paynesville, but it was a lot of years ago of trying to remember.

    Of course, it was not Hart, but you ELOC found out it was Heinrich so Hart was the super lead.

    For me, it was very intense that Patty thought it was DR as well as DR's mother saying that she would tell LE how he could have done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    And the lawsuit just went national....


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    Pretty sad this family had to hire their own divers after just one day of searching in the river. They found him today (day 2 of diving), it wouldn't have killed them to keep looking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elocsoul View Post
    i think bechtold will be fine. He has said some awfully heartless things since the wetterling case has been solved, but i think he'll turn the department around. I hope so anyway.
    i don't think so. He was at the scene.....heartless then, heartless now. JMO. sanner + bechtold go together like birds and a feather....JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shergal View Post
    Pretty sad this family had to hire their own divers after just one day of searching in the river. They found him today (day 2 of diving), it wouldn't have killed them to keep looking.
    Indeed. One must re-read your post to gain the full meaning of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cGorg View Post
    Indeed. One must re-read your post to gain the full meaning of it.
    A stearns county sonar team detected the body and then sent in the dive team. At the same time a news release said Stearns County is handing over search efforts to the family. It was a very odd day for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELOCsoul View Post
    Tuesday's press conference was very interesting. It gave a preview of the forthcoming lawsuits being brought by Dan Rassier and Ryan Larson against Stearns County investigators as well as the BCA.

    Several points that did not make the media, as far as I can tell:

    1. Dan's attorney presented a strong case that Heinrich should have been charged with Jared's abduction in 1990 or before. He stated that the mountain of evidence against Heinrich would have easily brought a conviction, and with that conviction the tire and shoe print evidence would have been strong enough to charge and convict Heinrich for Jacob's case then as well. He downplayed the claims made by LE of a non-scientific match.

    2. The FBI had Heinrich pretty well sown up but that Stearns County attorney Roger VanHeel sided with SCSO and their apparent hissy fit with the FBI.

    3. That Stearns made no substantial progress toward securing evidence against Heinrich after the FBI left the case in Feb 1990.

    4. He credited the FBI with solving the case within days of taking it over in late 2014. He cited the following as keys to triggering the solving of the case: Patty asking for a review of the case, Robert Dudley providing the Hart Notes to FBI agent Shane Ball and specifically naming Heinrich as the likely abductor, Shane Ball for quickly and accurately refocusing the case, Madeleine Baran and her In The Dark series, and Joy and Jared for bringing the Paynesville cases to the public's attention.

    5. He cited news media coverage and the 2nd and 3rd editions of my Wetterling book as paving the way to identifying problems with the investigation and overall history of the case.

    6. Dan Rassier had harsh words for investigators and took some shots at Patty Wetterling as well, although he acknowledged that she was manipulated by SCSO. He got emotional when talking about how McDonald dragged his mother out of the kitchen.

    7. Ryan Larson's attorney is a national civil rights lawyer from Pennsylvania. He was well spoken and said that there are members of SCSO and BCA who are not fit to serve.
    So WHO is the eLEphant in the room?

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