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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred&edna View Post
    Maybe Ray will disclose the eyewitness who says Bissett was a client of SG's. I mean, he did disclose the Oak Beach resident who testified that Hackett told him he treated Shannan, didn't he??? (Was it somebody Anderson... Bruce or something??)

    Also, I wonder.... who was SG's client who lived in the multi-million dollar home in Kings Park???
    That is another lie intended to get a rise out of everyone. THERE ARE NO MULTI MILLION DOLLAR HOMES IN KINGS PARK NY. Even,the the Waterview homes there are all worth less than one million.

    Totally false and misleading info!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps149 View Post
    That is another lie intended to get a rise out of everyone. THERE ARE NO MULTI MILLION DOLLAR HOMES IN KINGS PARK NY. Even,the the Waterview homes there are all worth less than one million.

    Totally false and misleading info!!!!
    Okay, sooo... tell us about Bruce. Is it Bruce??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred&edna View Post
    Okay, sooo... tell us about Bruce. Is it Bruce??
    It is Bruce (leaving out last name -- but it's stated in TKS Ep 3). John Ray may have been tipped off to Bruce's knowledge of the SG events by a voracious WS poster a few years back who was an OB insider and felt strongly about Hackett, to put it mildly. Ray then subpoenaed Bruce in the civil action Shannan's family brought against Hackett.

    In TKS Ep 3. here's what Ray said Bruce’s deposition revealed: "Hackett had told Bruce [last name] that Hackett had seen Shannan the morning that she disappeared. Shannan had come into his home. He had treated her, medicated her, and that she left his home in a confused state of mind."

    According to public property records, this person owns a house at the far, far, far East end of Hawser Drive in OB.
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    I think it's important to point out that Bissett's has at least one wholesale (trade only) nursery and it's in Dix Hills located here 40°48'14.70"N 73°20'30.59"W.

    That means many professional landscapers and contractors source their plant material from Bissett Nursery and have access to the burlap sacks and the burlap from the balled-and-burlapped trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browntabby1226 View Post
    Maybe Bisset was part of a rich human hunting group who was afraid when the body was found he ended it for himself.The group would have to be people with money and may or may not be well known.There fore leave your cell phones home and no pictures.They were to be paid a large amount for following there instructions on the meet but was just a rouse to kill them.Wonder if it is a group how large is it? Could it involve other states? Other countries.
    I have wondered the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps149 View Post
    FUNNY THING... JR in one interview stated that Bisset has NO connections to SG.

    Either he was lying then, or he lied on the radio show, or he simply LOVES to get a rise out of people and drop these bombshells that never seem to hold water.

    Maybe, but do we know whether Bisset committed suicide. His manner of death could be potentially incriminating. Moreover, has someone reconstructed his last days on earth -- was he depressed, did he talk about ending it all? Where there strange circumstances surrounding his demise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browntabby1226 View Post
    Maybe Bisset was part of a wealthy human hunting group who was afraid when the body was found he ended it for himself.
    Maybe. These types of groups are secretive, and everyone has something on everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browntabby1226 View Post
    Maybe Bisset was part of a rich human hunting group who was afraid when the body was found he ended it for himself.The group would have to be people with money and may or may not be well known.There fore leave your cell phones home and no pictures.They were to be paid a large amount for following there instructions on the meet but was just a rouse to kill them.Wonder if it is a group how large is it? Could it involve other states? Other countries.
    I just Googled human hunting clubs and it appears that indonesia, south america, and Thailand have been rumored.... could it be that there is someone who traveled to one of these places and experienced such a thing and brought it back to long Island and other places in the United states and using working girls as the hunted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddalena1 View Post
    I just Googled human hunting clubs and it appears that indonesia, south america, and Thailand have been rumored.... could it be that there is someone who traveled to one of these places and experienced such a thing and brought it back to long Island and other places in the United states and using working girls as the hunted?
    You mean like "Deliverance", but clubbier? It would be hard to keep something like that secret, it seems to me, with as many people and places involved as you suggest. Even human traffickers must have some sense of having cutouts and the such to limit exposure, avoiding people and place they'd be known or environments they cannot control well enough. What you imagine as a club for sickos' pleasure would leave its members relatively exposed over time, it seems to me. People hunt and stalk others all the time, in wars, due to drug or human trafficking turf battles, just competition, jealousy, over money, information, for bounty, based on ideology, or by law even, etc... this idea with all due respect seems bit too elaborate, given what is known. You have great posts with reasonable outside of the box thinking which is nice to read. I hope you keep exploring possibilities, as there seems to be so very many to pick from, learning of how many SK's there could be out there, as "The Killing Season" shockingly concluded in that last two episodes (5&6 on) A&E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps149 View Post
    FUNNY THING... JR in one interview stated that Bisset has NO connections to SG.

    Doesn't he even state it in episode 3???

    Either he was lying then or he lied on the radio show or he simply LOVES to get a rise out of people and drop these bombshells that never seem to hold water.

    Who is this so-called witness??

    This should go into a rumour mill or a rumour category because that's all it is at this point!
    I agree. And why the claims that deliberately contradict fact?

    JR claim: Shannan had no psychiatric history of bipolar disorder.
    Then who prescribed her with medication? Excerpt from Newsday article: As a teenager, she stopped taking her medication for her bipolar disorder because she believed it made her gain weight and gave her the "shakes," Sherre Gilbert said. http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking...mark-1.2849214

    JR claim: Shannan was not a bottom dweller; she was a “fairly high class sex worker”.
    Shannan used Craigslist and Backpage. If she was a “high class” call girl she’d be in someone’s little black book and would not have to solicit her services online. Don’t get me wrong, I admire what was Shannan’s ambition and drive to better herself in life. She knew there was a difference between being naturally smart and being educated – and she was striving to be educated. But she wasn’t an exception in the sex-money business. She was the rule. She put her ad up and waited by the phone same as the next girl.

    JR claim: Shannan didn’t go to Oak Beach for $300 – there was another reason she went to Oak Beach.
    Shannan didn’t even know she was in Oak Beach!! – so that rules out any notion she went to Oak Beach with some goal in mind other than earning rent money, which was due that day. Unless… JR is alluding to Brewer's party pal – in which I would agree with him because I have always thought Bachelor #2 was significant and LE diverted attention from him by diminishing him as a nobody. But he’s no “drifter”. I think Ray was suggesting this guy (maybe Bissett?) was supplying Shannan with the whole $1,100 needed for rent money because she wouldn’t have gone all that distance for less and neither would Pak.

    I also agree with John Ray when he said, “I think you’re going to find the killer right in Oak Beach. If you study and look at the evidence.”

    I'd bet he’s 100% correct on that.
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    But it all of the info on Bisset was speculative. If in fact there is a link between him and Shannon, that would really substantiate the rumors. After his suicide, much of the speculation seemed to come from within the law enforcement community which in itself is interesting. And another odd thing is that if this witness is real, it seems to point in another direction than JB. Strange indeed.

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    I can not find it, but it was posted on this site by an administrator. It is right before they interview someone in regard to the Florida murders.

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    Thanks

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    A couple of serial killers that committed suicide, after being caught, I doubt because of remorse though: Fred West (Died 1995) and Dr Harold Shipman (Died 2004)

    in response to #13 "I agree... I think it's very rare for serial killers to commit suicide. (There is/was Israel Keyes, but he was an exception.)
    And, IIRC... Bissett had a close family member who committed suicide (which "statistically" made him more susceptible)"
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    Also Maury Travis and Leonard Lake both committed suicide. Both were found to have videotaped their crimes.

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