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    IMHO I don't think it'd be wise to rule anyone out based on the fact that they committed suicide. Sure, most SKs are thought to be too narcissistic and concerned with their own survival to do it, but like I said in another post, I think we are still learning quite a bit about SK behavior and development and not all are exactly the same.

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    Timelines? I wonder if this police task force eliminated people from timelines and if they were somewhere that could be proven at the time of disappearances. They have not allowed the public to know this so it makes it hard to x someone out as a suspect.

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    I don't know how to state this without sounding insensitive. Let's just say that IF a prestigious man like James Bissett III had a reason or a desire to hire a woman for sex, he could have afforded the highest class, most exotic and most expensive and discreet call girls that money could buy. Living on the East End of Long Island in the middle of wine country he surely would have used an upscale professional service and not resort to Craigslist for a streetwalker from Jersey City (yes, Craigslist and Backpage are the new location of modern-day streetwalkers).

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    The problem I have with all the talk of sex murder parties, driver, and police cover up is (and I may be really wrong) in my opinion there are not that many men who support hurting women nonetheless killing them. Killing someone is seriously messed up and I cannot see a huge group covering this up. I have a hard time thinking a group of police officers would cover murder of these girls. That would be many psychopaths in a group. I hope no one comes down hard on me for this opinion, but I am not buying this. People talk and talk alot, these type of things get out. They may have crossed off suspects like Bissett from work, was he on computer paying bills, figuring out business taxes, expenses, ISP account for the time any of these women went missing.

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    Easy prey. I have warned so many about staying away from CL and backpage. Not only is it easy pickings for any psycho out there, but also for LE.
    Quote Originally Posted by ps149 View Post
    I don't know how to state this without sounding insensitive. Let's just say that IF a prestigious man like James Bissett III had a reason or a desire to hire a woman for sex, he could have afforded the highest class, most exotic and most expensive and discreet call girls that money could buy. Living on the East End of Long Island in the middle of wine country he surely would have used an upscale professional service and not resort to Craigslist for a streetwalker from Jersey City (yes, Craigslist and Backpage are the new location of modern-day streetwalkers).

    http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/r...ells-1.7218138

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    The higher priced call girls may take payment ahead of time and only debit or credit card in large sum. They also may get clients through word of mouth and have adequate protection. They would not be as easy prey or as vulnerable in the eyes of a killer. A high class call girl may show up looking ready to go to a high society event, and this may not fulfill the warped fantasies of SKs who kill prostitutes.
    Last edited by Salsa; 11-28-2016 at 06:29 PM.

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    Exactly, Salsa. They could be easily tracked if they worked through an agency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa View Post
    The higher priced call girls may take payment ahead of time and only debit or credit card in large sum. They also may get clients through word of mouth and have adequate protection. They would not be as easy prey or as dirty in the eyes of a killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browntabby1226 View Post
    Maybe Bisset was part of a rich human hunting group who was afraid when the body was found he ended it for himself.The group would have to be people with money and may or may not be well known.There fore leave your cell phones home and no pictures.They were to be paid a large amount for following there instructions on the meet but was just a rouse to kill them.Wonder if it is a group how large is it? Could it involve other states? Other countries.
    I'm relatively new to the case/show - but as soon as I heard she said on the 911 call that "*they're* trying to kill me" there may be a ring at work. Especially given the phone call they had with the serial killer who claimed to be part of such a ring.

    My theory would be thus: Shannen was in the client's home for approximately 2 hours prior to "freaking out". It could be during this time she and the client engaged in small talk or actual sex - possibly with the client suggesting he call others over to participate. It may be possible that he either divulged information on this ring to her - or initimated some thing to her that obviously frightened her. Was he taunting her? Could it possibly be that the Dr. who called her mother to state he was running a "home for wayward girls" (whose house was not far from where Shannen was found) involved in this ring - drugging potential victims? Also, I thought that given the Sheriff's corruption charges, hindering of the investigation and being labelled a "pervert" due to porn and bondage item found in his car - he may be part of such a ring.

    Again, these are strictly my opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps149 View Post
    I don't know how to state this without sounding insensitive. Let's just say that IF a prestigious man like James Bissett III had a reason or a desire to hire a woman for sex, he could have afforded the highest class, most exotic and most expensive and discreet call girls that money could buy. Living on the East End of Long Island in the middle of wine country he surely would have used an upscale professional service and not resort to Craigslist for a streetwalker from Jersey City (yes, Craigslist and Backpage are the new location of modern-day streetwalkers).

    http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/r...ells-1.7218138
    I haven't ruled anyone out, known to us or not known to us. James Bissett is still on the table for me. That said, I wonder if he was involved in one or more murders of sex workers, including Shannan, it may have been "prudent" of him to choose women whom he believed would not have been missed if he was planning to kill them. Additionally, there are well off men who troll for less expensive sex workers. It's not uncommon from all I've read.
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    If it was a huge conspiracy, a group of killers, why keep her body where it was? They had days to get rid of her body.

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    Good question - I'm wondering if the fact that she had connected with 911 and neighbours - together with them knowing the clients address that she was at last made them panic?

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    Not if she got away and they couldn't find her. Remember, she had a driver, too. Maybe that was a fact they didn't know ahead of time? It's not like they could go searching for her with Pak there. I don't know, Shannen's case has me totally baffled. I think if she went all the way to LI in the early hours of the morning, that she had been there before. Especially is it was only a $300 call. Whatever the case may be, Shannen did not die in vein....her tragedy brought closure (somewhat) to many other families.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa View Post
    If it was a huge conspiracy, a group of killers, why keep her body where it was? They had days to get rid of her body.

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    It baffles me too and makes me feel unsettled because I want to have the answers. I range from she predicted that she was going to die and she died, was it murder, to the question if she was extremely Manic from Bipolar, high off that and drugs combined, whisking off very late out to a place she did not know because she told the operator she was at a different beach. The family history of severe mental illness. My mind takes me back and forth between those two.

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    The killings are not about sex - they're about domination and rage at women in general.

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