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  1. #391
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    And yet, Three girls all with different backgrounds and different ages were all abducted in order of their birth dates. Remember what the FBI says about this? One is random, two is coincidence, three is a pattern and serial.

    So how is he getting that information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomm View Post
    And yet, Three girls all with different backgrounds and different ages were all abducted in order of their birth dates. Remember what the FBI says about this? One is random, two is coincidence, three is a pattern and serial.

    So how is he getting that information?
    Public notices - newspapers
    Radio announcements
    Friends & relatives who are attending parties
    Bookings for restaurants
    Cakes made by bakers or cake decorators
    Retail clothing, outfit for special occasion
    Hairdresser appointments
    Working in place that requires driver licence ID (limitless options)
    Special occasion venues
    Bookings at Clubs
    Doctors Specialists Dentist Optometrist Hospital
    Standing behind someone in a queue and listening
    Noticing what star sign book someone buys
    Insurance
    Banking
    Surveys

    It would not be difficult to find out a birthdate.

    Perhaps that's why he let Karrakatta go?
    IIRC with one of the other assaults, her licence was found on the ground later? Did he take it off her to check it?

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    Checking IDs at licensed venues? Would not need to speak to them at all.
    Last edited by Basilisk; 12-18-2016 at 11:42 PM.

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    Former Ian moone posted; ( aprox 2014 (apologies for losing thread address) 'csk websleuths'

    the car is differently stated here anyway, apparently its white lazer hatchback plate ka:6594
    quoted in the YouTube clip recently posted about debra Anderson
    Last edited by meticulously; 12-19-2016 at 12:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meticulously View Post

    Former Ian moone posted; ( aprox 2014 (apologies for losing thread address) 'csk websleuths'

    the car is differently stated here anyway, apparently its white lazer hatchback plate ka:6594
    quoted in the YouTube clip recently posted about debra Anderson
    The Police say DM was found in January, not December, so someone's got that wrong as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Joe View Post
    The Police say DM was found in January, not December, so someone's got that wrong as well.
    Hopefully it sparks interest or rules out the claim whether wrong or right
    Also who is dm in the quotes above ?
    Quote Originally Posted by phantomm View Post
    I believe VM is responsible for DM. And LB. But there are a lot of variables in this case that need a closer look.
    Last edited by meticulously; 12-19-2016 at 01:54 AM. Reason: Typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by meticulously View Post
    Hopefully it sparks interest whether wrong or right .
    Also who is dm in the quotes above ?

    And LB while we're asking ?
    My DM should be DA or DMA. I think I wrote DM because I had just read the post by phantom. LB is probably Lisa Brown?

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    Warning : contains graphic description.
    This has been discussed before on ws. (and debated/disproved). This is from a fairly obscured link irish times
    Last edited by meticulously; 12-19-2016 at 02:02 AM. Reason: Add more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Joe View Post
    Public notices - newspapers
    Radio announcements
    Friends & relatives who are attending parties
    Bookings for restaurants
    Cakes made by bakers or cake decorators
    Retail clothing, outfit for special occasion
    Hairdresser appointments
    Working in place that requires driver licence ID (limitless options)
    Special occasion venues
    Bookings at Clubs
    Doctors Specialists Dentist Optometrist Hospital
    Standing behind someone in a queue and listening
    Noticing what star sign book someone buys
    Insurance
    Banking
    Surveys

    It would not be difficult to find out a birthdate.

    Perhaps that's why he let Karrakatta go?
    IIRC with one of the other assaults, her licence was found on the ground later? Did he take it off her to check it?
    Highest probability would have to be bouncers / security / bartender at the conti for this scenario. (Could of pretended to be security too)
    They could easy check ID and notice if they arrived/leave alone.
    Karra girl would of had a fake ID too seeing she was only 17.
    Maybe this is why she was let go?
    MM could of been a fake security and in the footage had a joke with JR about thinking she was underage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBA512 View Post
    Highest probability would have to be bouncers / security / bartender at the conti for this scenario. (Could of pretended to be security too)
    They could easy check ID and notice if they arrived/leave alone.
    Karra girl would of had a fake ID too seeing she was only 17.
    Maybe this is why she was let go?
    MM could of been a fake security and in the footage had a joke with JR about thinking she was underage.
    Occams razor would point to the license that was found, being the license she was using on the night.
    I don't think jr looked underage so doubt that happened.
    jmo
    Last edited by meticulously; 12-19-2016 at 02:58 AM. Reason: Add


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    Quote Originally Posted by meticulously View Post
    Occams razor would point to the license that was found, being the license she was using on the night.
    I don't think jr looked underage so doubt that happened.
    jmo
    From personal experience, appearance is not much of a guide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basilisk View Post
    From personal experience, appearance is not much of a guide!
    wouldn't these girls have been welcomed rather than scrutinized in the circmstances ( being sex attacks in the vicinity ) ? and Karra victim seemingly using i.d. stating age 17 .
    What ever words that mm said to jr is like guessing a caption contest

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    Last edited by meticulously; 12-19-2016 at 03:48 AM. Reason: Add more

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    I'll try to clear some queries here.

    DM is Deborah Marshall. LB is Lisa Brown. VM is Victor Morey.

    <modsnip>

    So the list of methods to get birthdates and star signs. Talk about stalking. You would have to find some girls and then start gathering information on each of them. You could probably hang around the Conti and watch for girls who attend regularly. Then, if you can't learn anything from talking to them, look through all those other sources of info mentioned, following them, crossing girls off as they fail your criteria till eventually you narrow it down to a couple. Then you go back one night to see if they turn up so you can abduct them. And maybe that's why there have only been three girls seperated by periods of time. Because of the time required to research each girl.

    But I have mentioned previously that someone like a bouncer or even a pretend cop could learn everything they want about a girl by asking to see her ID. But, as with the guy asking for star signs, people will remember a bloke going around asking to see IDs.

    Remember, SS chatted to one of the bouncers, because she knew him, on the night she disappeared.

    The cops have got it wrong on their page about DM. I actually wrote to them with references to prove the dates were wrong and they told me that the data is loaded by a volunteer and they would get it fixed. That was eight years ago. Also not mentioned about her is that she was supposedly wearing a very valuable necklace when she left home, but it couldn't be found after the fire was put out.
    Last edited by sillybilly; 12-20-2016 at 05:35 AM. Reason: naming individuals

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomm View Post
    I'll try to clear some queries here.

    DM is Deborah Marshall. LB is Lisa Brown. VM is Victor Morey.

    <modsnip>

    So the list of methods to get birthdates and star signs. Talk about stalking. You would have to find some girls and then start gathering information on each of them. You could probably hang around the Conti and watch for girls who attend regularly. Then, if you can't learn anything from talking to them, look through all those other sources of info mentioned, following them, crossing girls off as they fail your criteria till eventually you narrow it down to a couple. Then you go back one night to see if they turn up so you can abduct them. And maybe that's why there have only been three girls seperated by periods of time. Because of the time required to research each girl.

    But I have mentioned previously that someone like a bouncer or even a pretend cop could learn everything they want about a girl by asking to see her ID. But, as with the guy asking for star signs, people will remember a bloke going around asking to see IDs.

    Remember, SS chatted to one of the bouncers, because she knew him, on the night she disappeared.

    The cops have got it wrong on their page about DM. I actually wrote to them with references to prove the dates were wrong and they told me that the data is loaded by a volunteer and they would get it fixed. That was eight years ago. Also not mentioned about her is that she was supposedly wearing a very valuable necklace when she left home, but it couldn't be found after the fire was put out.



    Quote Originally Posted by phantomm View Post
    I believe VM is responsible for DM. And LB. But there are a lot of variables in this case that need a closer look.
    your mistake , You mean DA- Anderson .
    Deb marshall is the author !


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    Last edited by sillybilly; 12-20-2016 at 05:36 AM. Reason: snipped quoted post

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    Ouch. You're right. My second error for the year.

    DA is Debra Anderson. I hope her step mother isn't on here because we are friends.

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