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  1. #46
    Do these links work for anyone? they dont work for me

    Quote Originally Posted by whonos View Post
    I copied Treelights post from the Dermond thread. The links no longer work, but Treelights quotes the link. Notice Plaza Art Center. Was LI the director in 2014?

    Tree lights' post on 05/07/2014:

    Looks like Shirley played Bridge.
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/loca...Bridge-results

    http://www.msgr.com/news/community/a...a4bcf887a.html
    "Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:00 am"
    This last link is recently, from March 18, 2014, it lists Shirley....
    "EDBC meets each Tuesday and Thursday at 12:30 p.m. at The Plaza Arts Center, 305 N. Madison Ave., in downtown Eatonton."

    It also lists Shirley's telephone number, to call her, if a person wants to know more about the club.
    Last edited by Treelights; 05-07-2014 at 01:06 PM.

  2. #47
    Robert Holland of Eatonton a possible relative of Tommy Holland of tulsa OK

    Dont know what I'm looking for......... Recap

    May 2010
    Lydia I listed as Director of Eatontons Plaza arts Center
    http://onlineathens.com/stories/0529...l#.WFP98VMrKM8

    One of these the Plaza or the Foundation that owned or managed the Plaza LI was listed as OWNER

    Georgia community arts network
    LI listed as coordinator
    http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?...Name=Ivanditti



    this was a press release Oct 29 2013
    Dated for 2013/14 Lydia I was listed on bd of directors for Stephen Thomas Museum
    http://gaartsnetwork.org/wordpress1/...nt_Oct2013.pdf



    Updated Nov 2013
    Lydia I is listed as President of Stephen Thomas Museum…here
    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lydia-Ivanditti/1835671909
    LI address was still listed as her walnut st address

    Started Holland and Holdings 2013 dissolved feb 2016 Link on page 3 here I think

    Stated in this article dated Sept 2014 announcing new manager, that LI opened the Cashmere 9 months ago, Feb 2014
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

    TDH incarcerated
    Crime commit date for TDH Aug 2014-association Cashmere
    INCARCERATION BEGIN: 02/18/2016
    http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/Offe...Redirector.jsp


    Sept 2014
    Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
    New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

    This site shows a relative of Tommy Holland of Tulsa OK as a Robert Holland of EATONTON GA

    Don’t see where she might be connected to the Plaza Arts Center in Eatonton
    In 2013 or 2014 unless however she is still on the bd or owner


    Plaza arts theatre MURDER MYSTERY DINNER
    June 2015
    http://events.r20.constantcontact.co...yyasrdb9d0a313

    Seems like she disappeared to ATL after the charges at Cashmere for herself TDH and Mcallister which was end of 2014?

    So according to the article on her death, she was probably in ATL for past 1 or 2 years Max, as she is still involved with Cashmere in Sept 2014 according to above article

  3. #48
    from btsctr on Shirley dermond............:"fraudulent charges (7 in total - Macys.com and Amazon.com) were made between Sept. 20 through Sept. 23, 2012 to their American Express account. It was a $2000 4-day shopping spree. The Dermonds reported it to PCSO on Oct 24, 2012. It didn't appear in the local paper until Nov 8, 2012"

    So this was while LI was director of Plaza Arts center and Sills went to OK in questioning for the Dermond's murders in 2014/15....where TOmmy Holland is from and moved back to and was incarcerated in 2016, who was living with LI in 2013 while he managed her business Cashmere...................I dont see him connected to the Plaza Arts center but dont know when he and LI got together but since they were together in 2013 for the nightclub clearly they were together in 2012 or earlier..............He lived with her.....wonder when he moved into Walnut St? Just trying to get my head wrapped around it, Its very interesting Sills went to OK for questioning in the Dermonds murders..........who was he investigating?

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    Sept 2014
    Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
    New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html


    I found him. INCARCERATION DETAILS

    MAJOR OFFENSE: INCEST
    MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: WHEELER CORR FACILITY
    MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 08/31/2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancinunderthemoon View Post
    Do these links work for anyone? they dont work for me
    No, but I'm going back in threads (#7) July 8 right now and I am finding links that still work.

  6. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsctr View Post
    No, but I'm going back in threads (#7) July 8 right now and I am finding links that still work.
    hmm, that's weird,
    Last edited by dancinunderthemoon; 12-16-2016 at 10:40 PM.

  7. #52
    whats interesting is that Aug 21 2014 Judge cline jr of greensboro ga near Eatonton committed SUICIDE........... Aug 15 2014 was the "crime commit date" where LI, TDH and MCallister were found under surveillance at Cashmere and charged with Drug possession and gambling..........of course the GBI confirmed he committed suicide

    As well, May2 2014 Dermonds murdered, May 8 Real Estate Agent drowned off her own dock, it was confirmed a drowning and no foul play

    And the dermonds passed on the 2nd May and LI passed on the 2nd Dec , different years but they ran in the same circle

    Just noting how all these occurred in 2014, Putnam Co or were connected to Putnam in some way and living nearby, except LI, 2016 death

    maybe nothing but very very odd, these people aren't just ****s (street gangs) on the streets...............well maybe one

  8. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsctr View Post
    Sept 2014
    Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
    New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html


    I found him. INCARCERATION DETAILS

    MAJOR OFFENSE: INCEST
    MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: WHEELER CORR FACILITY
    MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 08/31/2021
    I didnt realize he was incarcerated!

    What in the world, LI announced him as new manager in Sept 2016 by the end of Sept he's in carcerated again and was just released in 2013

    WHY?? JUST WHY??

    STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY

    INCARCERATION BEGIN: 09/27/2016
    INCARCERATION END: ACTIVE
    INCARCERATION BEGIN: 08/11/2009
    INCARCERATION END: 04/10/2013

    SO I guess we can surmise that this ended it for LI and Cashmere as the place to be in 2016

    I havent seen anything that stated Cashmere was closing it s doors, it must have just closed quietly after her second manager issues

    So now what did she know? and on whom?

    Im wondering like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, about adult onset dementia or alzheimers, but rumors are not in her favor of LI but seems like she was doing oik according to her career track record....what in the world happened?

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    Maybe I'm down the rabbit hole, but I see she announced him in September 2014.

    “I am also pleased to announce Matthew Shields as my new general manager and Mike McKelvey is returning to be our head cook,” said Ivanditti.
    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

    She has a lot of friends. This is the public FB page of the Plaza Arts Center where she was worked. https://www.facebook.com/ThePlazaArt...ef=friends.all

  10. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsctr View Post
    Maybe I'm down the rabbit hole, but I see she announced him in September 2014.



    http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

    She has a lot of friends. This is the public FB page of the Plaza Arts Center where she was worked. https://www.facebook.com/ThePlazaArt...ef=friends.all
    woops, you are right, sept 2014, had too many dates and peopel in my mind, everything seemed to be going awry in 2014 but he had just been released in 2013, then I guess he was convicted on more by 2016 and incarcerated

    She must've quietly closed at end of 2014, I never saw anything on the closing and the Huggins and Holland LLC was dissolved way later in 2016 IIRC........


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    The only OK connection I am seeing right now is through Holland, but there is more than one Holland that was a friend of Ms. Ivanditti's. She was well connected. There are Florida connections too, and I believe investigators also went to Florida during the early part of the investigation. I'll see if I can dig up that link.

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    Just to say Thank You to my fellow sleuthers who are so very dedicated and good at what you do!

    I really appreciate it, as I am sure many others do too.

    Here's hoping there will be a break in the Dermonds case.

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    Okay, I had it bassackwards... The Florida detectives came to Eatonton at Sills' request:

    Sills recently called on the expertise of two detectives from the Jacksonville, Florida, sheriff's office's cold-case squad. Sills roomed with Jacksonville Sheriff John H. Rutherford when the two attended the FBI Academy.

    The Florida detectives spent a day and a half in Eatonton examining crime-scene photographs and other materials, Sills said.

    http://www.covnews.com/archives/54986/


    Good to see you 1&2&3! Sure would love to see atthelake too!

  14. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsctr View Post
    Okay, I had it bassackwards... The Florida detectives came to Eatonton at Sills' request:

    Sills recently called on the expertise of two detectives from the Jacksonville, Florida, sheriff's office's cold-case squad. Sills roomed with Jacksonville Sheriff John H. Rutherford when the two attended the FBI Academy.

    The Florida detectives spent a day and a half in Eatonton examining crime-scene photographs and other materials, Sills said.

    http://www.covnews.com/archives/54986/


    Good to see you 1&2&3! Sure would love to see atthelake too!
    I think that was for the Dermond's investigation?? I also looked up Vicki Stephens, the RE agent that drowned, what 6 days after the D's? She has some of the same friends as LI IIRC, I dont think she and LI were friends. I know it's all been "settled" on the Stephens drowning and the Judge Cline suicide, I just find it ALL VERY ODD, they were all prominent citizens, the only th..u..g... is the Cashmere crew and I dont know if LI is too but some dont speak too highly of her habits, I have no idea her personal affiars but WHY oh WHY get invovled with these guys, one got indicted and she went right into bs with a sex offender............they're all in jail and alive though, SMH...............I also keep thinking after the D's I was reading everone say, they'll strike again, then LI death so odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancinunderthemoon View Post
    I think that was for the Dermond's investigation?? I also looked up Vicki Stephens, the RE agent that drowned, what 6 days after the D's? She has some of the same friends as LI IIRC, I dont think she and LI were friends. I know it's all been "settled" on the Stephens drowning and the Judge Cline suicide, I just find it ALL VERY ODD, they were all prominent citizens, the only th..u..g... is the Cashmere crew and I dont know if LI is too but some dont speak too highly of her habits, I have no idea her personal affiars but WHY oh WHY get invovled with these guys, one got indicted and she went right into bs with a sex offender............they're all in jail and alive though, SMH...............I also keep thinking after the D's I was reading everone say, they'll strike again, then LI death so odd
    If they are related, and 2 are incarcerated, then I would hope someone would not be afraid to come forward with a description of the man seen at the Dermonds house in May of 2014.

    Did someone attempt to stage LI's death to look like she fell in the bathroom? Did she suffer blunt force trauma to the head just like Mrs. D?

    There is a best defense move ever.

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