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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37




    "A fitness trainer and mother of three was murdered in a Dallas-area church Monday morning by a man wearing SWAT gear, police said."

    "Boot camp-style exercise class participants who showed up at the Creekside Church of Christ in Midlothian, Tex., around 5 a.m. found their instructor Terri “Missy” Bevers, 45, dead, according to the Midlothian Police Department."

    "Fitness trainer Terri (Missy) Bevers, 45, was killed early Monday just before her boot-camp style class, police said. Participants in the Camp Gladiator class found her dead when they arrived to a Midlothian, Tex., church for the workout."

    "Police Chief Carl Smith said a man wearing what looked like a tactical helmet, gloves and a heavy vest with "POLICE" written on it could be seen in security camera footage from the E. U.S. Highway 287 church just before Bevers arrived. The department released the 4 a.m. footage Monday afternoon, though Smith said no cameras captured the attack."

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    CERTAIN BEHAVIORS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!


    Dear Websleuths Members,

    We are going to apply common sense to the Missy Bever's discussion.

    You all have really done some amazing sleuthing in the Bever's case. Thank you for putting forth the effort to bring us interesting and helpful posts.

    From now on if a member disrupts the thread in any way they will be timed out or banned.

    Disrupting the thread could be anything from hitting the alert button over and over on posts that do not violate our TOS, to trying to disrupt members who are discussing a scenario that you disagree with, to arguing over something so minor that it makes me want to rip my eyeballs out of my head in frustration.

    Here is an example: No more arguments over "shards of glass" VS "broken glass" LE referenced.

    No outright accusations against specific individuals but very general broad speculation or theorizing will be allowed.

    The last word from LE was a long time ago and was that none of the persons listed in the search warrants that have been released are suspects "at this time"

    We all know that is
    doublespeak for we are not willing to name any of them POI or suspect RIGHT NOW.

    So a general speculation of "I still find the husband's statements odd, his demeanor off. Something is not right there" are fine. While statements like "BB did it, I mean come on, his wife was sleeping around and it's almost always the husband or boyfriend" are over the line.

    "I think this was motivated by jealousy by someone Missy knew, someone who felt threatened by her, someone with low self-esteem" would be okay while "it was that one woman [whatever her initials are] married to one teacher [insert initials]" would be over the line.

    This should be easy to understand.

    We want a lively and interesting discussion, however, we will not allow the Bever's discussion to get out of hand.

    Thanks to
    tlcya and beach for their contributions to this post and for their continued hard work in moderating the Bever's thread.

    Tricia


    Search Warrants

    dry cleaner warrant - redacted
    LinkedIn warrant 5-5-16
    AT&T Tower warrant 5-5-16
    Search warrant

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    FB Warrant Probable Cause Affidavit

    A member was kind enough to seek out and share this probable cause statement regarding the warrant for Missy's Facebook account. A person is named in full in that document as someone LE wanted more information about Missy's interactions with. That individual's initials are CW. We will continue to call that individual by their initials and not use their name in our discussions.

    A reminder that this warrant was obtained in the early days of the investigation and since that time LE has stated "We didn't glean anything of significant evidentiary value from the execution of the warrants,"

    If a member obtained it from the court record others can and will. Therefore we are making it available for our members but caution you to keep the above statement in mind when reading and making reference to it.

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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45,murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

    Regarding Glammie's comment at the end of the previous thread about thinking there are two perps...

    I've not seen anything that would indicate to me that there is more than one perp on video. And it goes against pretty much everything LE has said. They've been quite specific that while not ruling out the involvement of others, there is just one perp seen on video.

    When they were first looking at the raw video, it would have been obvious to them if there had been more than one perp inside. Why? Because even if two perps were never in the same part of the church physically, the motion activation would have caused the recording to jump around wildly from perp A to perp B. So why would LE then go to those early pressers and maintain one perp on video both then and for 8 months afterward? Including bringing in expert forensic video specialists and then releasing a description of one and only one suspect?

    As for the gait, I think it's going to be difficult to determine much. As a former police chief commented early on, the outfit appears to be new out of the box. It's possible - I would even say probable - that this is the first time this person has ever worn an outfit like that.

    So they're unaccustomed to shin guards, a tool belt/holster, possibly the boots, etc. Even the helmet throws off how you would normally walk. The distribution of weight is unfamiliar. So the outfit - rather than the person inside - is determining the gait to a large extent.

    I think LE made an error in focusing so much on the gait early on, thinking there was a right foot injury, etc. And releasing first one height range and then a second one, neither of them specific, just added to the problem. You would think after 8 months that the FBI could have been brought in to do the type of work our own BatBrat has done and built a computer simulation to account for things like camera perspective and the outfit.

    Can you think of any other murder case in which the murderer has been caught on video so extensively, yet leaving LE with (apparently) no good idea of gender, ethnicity (besides light-skinned), height or weight? And no apparent understanding of what the perp's movements on camera mean or what the motive was?

    I know this is where the "LE knows a lot more than they're saying" crowd weighs in. That may be the case, but there is no evidence to indicate it. No new SWs in nearly 8 months. I think the video itself has been as useful as not having any video at all. In fact, it may have been counterproductive.


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    does anyone know what became of the "Duck walk " guy that robbed the Dallas daycare ? (I think it was a Daycare , it could have been a church , I posted it around the time the threads closed and it seems to have disappeared it was on fox 4 Dallas?
    I cant find anything will someone help ? I cant search at work , and I'm finding it hard to keep up with this thread
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    MOO, but I can't see a female doing this on her own at that time of night. I dislike being the last to leave my church because its freaky. If someone one is determined for their personal cause then fear for them will be obsolete but I just can't see a female breaking the glass and using all those tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oregonmama View Post
    MOO, but I can't see a female doing this on her own at that time of night. I dislike being the last to leave my church because its freaky. If someone one is determined for their personal cause then fear for them will be obsolete but I just can't see a female breaking the glass and using all those tools.
    There are aspects of the case that also make me doubt a female perpetrator carried the whole plan out without an accomplice even if there's only one perp in the video. The breaking in of the metal door, the hours it was done as you mentioned, and IF the locals account of injuries to MB are factual
    I would say a woman might be less likely to want to be that up close to that type of carnage. Of course one can poke holes in all those points but JMOO Def not ruling out female but those are the points I get hung up on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    There are aspects of the case that also make me doubt a female perpetrator carried the whole plan out without an accomplice even if there's only one perp in the video. The breaking in of the metal door, the hours it was done as you mentioned, and IF the locals account of injuries to MB are factual
    I would say a woman might be less likely to want to be that up close to that type of carnage. Of course one can poke holes in all those points but JMOO Def not ruling out female but those are the points I get hung up on.


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    I still question the kitchen. LE even stated that the perp stayed in the kitchen a lot. I still think two ppl were involved that night and two ppl were in the church. I think LE knows more than telling us

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    Whoever attacked Missy isn't entirely normal, since the vast majority of people don't do this sort of thing, so whatever motivated him/her could have led the perp to overcome any fears of being alone at a church at 3 a.m. and any squeamishness about breaking-and-entering and attacking -- especially if the person used a gun.

    To those who think there are two SPs on video, wouldn't they both have the limp with the right foot splaying outward?

    Maybe there was another perp off camera?

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    I am also 50/50 on if SP is a man or woman. Some aspects on the video and the crime make me think woman, but then again also make me think SP is a man. I just wish I had more to go on or just a little something more to research or lead us in the right direction. I have more questions now 8 mths later then I had in the first couple of days of this murder investigation.

    Justice for Missy will hopefully come soon!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasEx View Post
    Whoever attacked Missy isn't entirely normal, since the vast majority of people don't do this sort of thing, so whatever motivated him/her could have led the perp to overcome any fears of being alone at a church at 3 a.m. and any squeamishness about breaking-and-entering and attacking -- especially if the person used a gun.

    To those who think there are two SPs on video, wouldn't they both have the limp with the right foot splaying outward?

    Maybe there was another perp off camera?
    I think only one was on camera but both were there. Leaning on that two murdered her which LE stated they did not have the murder on video

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    So I took a pic of a cop that's always outside directing traffic...he's got all his bulky warm stuff on with his uniform, and I noticed he walked a little different today than normal...point being, I think the clothes caused him to walk weird. I think the stance is pretty common in males. I notice it everywhere and notice thIs man stood the same way. I'm leaning more to 2 perps being involved. Now and a possible getaway driver. If that's the case and MPD knows, then that would explain the height range being such a wide gap...ALL JMO


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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45,murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

    I'm also in the SP is a woman camp. When I watched the video for the first time, I assumed it was man at the beginning (just based on the SWAT gear). But then, I could have sworn I saw a brown ponytail swish when SP turned around & looked back before rounding the corner to that long hallway. I did a double take and restarted the video and realized I'd just imagined it. But just based on the sheer fact that I envisioned an imaginary ponytail swishing behind the SP as he/she turned around, coupled with the mere fact that enough people automatically assumed it was a woman and bombarded LE with questions about the SP's gender to such an extent that they had to clarify that it could have been either, leads me to believe that it is more likely that SP is a woman.


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    Question that I have stewed about since this all happened ,
    What are others opinions on whether SP is or was on MB facebook?

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    My initial opinion about this murder was that it was done by a stranger with a mental illness, probably obsessed with Missy, who felt rejected and angry.
    My opinion has occasionally wavered but it makes the most sense IF LE is sure BB is not involved. For the many reasons we've discussed he is an obvious first suspect.

    A mentally ill SP doesn't need to follow the laws of 'that doesn't make sense'. Stalking and obsession isn't rational. An obsessed person would have little trouble finding out about Missy's schedule.
    No, they probably aren't a Facebook friend. Not necessary to be. Her accounts were open to all, like an unlocked door to her life.
    The church is public. SP either got there extra early so they could look carefully around the inside to get the lay of the land or they visited before the crime. He dressed so he couldn't be identified by cameras inside or out.
    Probably the dressing up and playing police was intoxicating. if the SP struggles with normal functioning, this dressing up had to be a real power trip.

    I'm not sure he knew the outside cameras weren't working. Maybe he did something to disable them.
    I'd love to know if the police have looked carefully at the security tapes of the weeks prior to the murder for anyone paying close attention to the cameras.

    Maybe this person sent MB the odd LinkedIn message. The only problem I have with that is, why LinkedIn? No one I know uses LI for messaging.
    I can name 6 or 8 applications or sites that anyone I know would use before LinkedIn. If that message is important to the murder, the platform is the most intriguing aspect.

    If I'm right about this, that the SP is a marginally functioning mentally ill individual, then it's very likely their family knows about his uniform obsession, he probably seems to live in a pretend world, maybe they think he couldn't be capable of this.

    This is all my opinion and speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistree View Post
    Question that I have stewed about since this all happened ,
    What are others opinions on whether SP is or was on MB facebook?
    In my opinion, absolutely, without a doubt. But not that they went to the page. They would have been friends and received Missy's public feed and anything else that would have been just for certain friend lists if Missy put them in there on SP's (actually SP spouse's) own FB page. They quite likely had access to more posts and other things, especially messages and photographs, between MB and SP's spouse without ever having to go to MB's facebook page.

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    Does anyone have batbrats 'green man' videos? I can't remember which thread they were on.

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