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    Quote Originally Posted by YESorNO
    A police officer searched him and found *Suboxone, a prescription drug used to treat opiate addiction..
    Or did he?

    He was arrested for misdemeanor possession of Suboxone, a drug used for drug withdrawal symptoms. But a copy of the arrest report made public clearly shows he was arrested for felony possession of LSD and Cocaine:

    http://radaronline.com/wp-content/up...oof-signed.pdf

    Here is the original typed incident report for the Feb 28 arrest. You'll notice the "narrative" portion of the report is in a different typeface than the rest of the report. Obviously, someone wrote over the original words in this portion of the report. This is clear evidence of a cover-up.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.document...f-redacted.pdf

    So who had the power to make the felony charges go away? And what did Roof have to do to return the favor?

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    anyone know if DR actually had a drivers license. I keep seeing in many articles that he didn't, at least until age 19. Did he actually get one ever?

    His uncle didn’t — even though he noted that, at 19, Roof was mostly staying in his room and hadn’t even gotten a driver’s license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    anyone know if DR actually had a drivers license. I keep seeing in many articles that he didn't, at least until age 19. Did he actually get one ever?

    His uncle didn’t — even though he noted that, at 19, Roof was mostly staying in his room and hadn’t even gotten a driver’s license.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/22/charleston-why-didnt-anyone-help-dylann-roof.html
    I think he did - in the confession near the end there was some discussion about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by YESorNO View Post
    One more thing before I turn off my computer for the night (it's smoking from so much use today )
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    Except for Bruck's unusual closing statement , more mitigation than closing, IMO, with Roof representing himself in the sentencing phase, Bruck not being able to speak, we probably won't hear about the psychological issues because, I believe, that Roof wants "death by jury"???

    Bruck must be feeling very frustrated at this point. Wonder if he can/will convince his client to let him represent him again by Jan 3?

    I also wonder if Roof will try to explain to the jury how his white supremacist beliefs justified killing African-Americans- crazy if he does try to, IMO; the jury will not like it.

    if he does get the DP, his execution will likely never happen, but he will be put in solitary where no other inmate can kill him (which might happen if he was put in the general population). As one lawyer stated in an article I posted previously, Roof would be with the people who he hates ; they would probably hate him also and try to do him harm.

    I have been trying to see if there was any info on roof's mental state; here's what I found (not much ..)

    Roof’s mental state emerging as key issue in Charleston church killings

    "JULY 18, 2016
    ...Evidence offered by defense lawyers against the death penalty is called “mitigation” evidence. Much of that, according to the discussion and filings, will revolve around results of current and future mental health tests of Roof.

    Bruck agreed when Gergel asked “Am I right to say they (Roof’s mitigation defenses) would fall under the broad umbrella of mental health issues?”

    It is unknown what type of mental health issues will be presented at trial.

    As part of the pre-trial jockeying by opposing lawyers, the timing of when to give mental health test results to the other side is a key issue.

    Gergel ordered mental health examinations to be videotaped, but said he will decide later whether to delete some sections of video – as opposed to the audio – if thought to infringe on Roof’s right to a fair trial..."

    http://www.thestate.com/news/local/c...e90401347.html

    BBM guess we won't even hear about the tapes
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    Is Dylann Roof intentionally hiding his mental state?

    "...Capital cases such as Roof’s are separated into two parts. In the guilt phase, jurors determine whether the defendant committed the crime – or crimes – in question. In the sentencing phase, they weigh aggravating and mitigating factors to decide what penalty is warranted....

    Because many of the case’s records – including those pertaining to Roof’s mental health and competency – are sealed or redacted, it’s impossible to fully understand the thinking behind firing one’s counsel then hiring them back a week later. By choosing to represent himself in the latter phase, where evidence of past trauma and mental health issues could be put forth, Roof may be attempting to dodge scrutiny about his psychological state.

    Indeed, available court records show a keen interest from the defense on conducting psychiatric evaluations – assessments that could be used to mount a mental state defense at trial or a mitigation case at the penalty phase. Roof, in representing himself at penalty, could effectively silence his lawyers’ attempts to paint a picture of him as unstable.

    “Impaired defendants don’t like their frailties to be known,” said Robert Dunham, the executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center. “And they especially don’t like to be perceived as weak or mentally ill. But at this point we don’t know what’s going on in Dylann Roof’s mind – and we may never know.”..."

    https://www.revealnews.org/blog/is-d...-mental-state/
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    Dylann Roof guilty in Charleston church shooting

    "...Bruck said Roof did not get his feelings on race from family or friends.
    "He didn't get this from anybody else he knew," he said.

    Bruck portrayed Roof as a solitary figure who developed an obsession that a war existed between whites and blacks that required him to act and to even sacrifice himself, pointing to his statements to the FBI that he had intended to kill himself.

    "There was something in him that made him feel he had to do it, and that's as close as they got to it," he said of Roof's motivation.

    He said there was something wrong with Roof's perceptions, pointing to his being unaware he had killed nine people when questioned by the FBI.

    Roof, he said, was an odd character, a loner who had hundreds of photos of his cat and wore sweats under his jeans.

    Contrasting prosecutors' arguments that Roof had spent a lot of time planning the murders, Bruck said Roof did not plan much of what he did.
    "He had no escape plan, no money, a car full of dirty stuff," he told the jury.

    In discussing Roof's lack of remorse, he said, "you don't feel remorseful for what you felt you had to do."

    Bruck concluded by asking jurors to "look beyond the surface."

    "Is there something more to the story?" he asked...

    That Roof intends to dismiss a premiere capital defense team, one that includes four lawyers, appears to stem from a conflict over their belief that Roof suffers from a mental defect or related condition, an assertion they have alluded to in court documents and statements.

    No condition has been specified, but before resting his case on Wednesday, Bruck attempted to offer a psychologist and a psychiatrist as witnesses, a move blocked by the judge.

    One, Dr. Rachel Loftin, is a clinical psychologist who specializes in autism disorders...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oter/95474302/

    I thought this psychologist's specialty, "autism disorders" was very interesting as I have thought that he may be on the (high-functioning) autism spectrum in some way (nothing that I have found in my research to confirm this led me to this suposition- I just have a hunch).

    I am not saying that he has some mental disorder. It does not mitigate what he has done, IMO, or that he is not responsible for what he has done because of this. I just think that there's something "off" about him.

    It's too bad we won't be hearing about any mental conditions Roof may have. I'm just interested. or call it nosy.
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    Dylann Roof trial: Jurors reach verdict

    "...In the defense’s closing argument, Bruck said Roof was just imitating what he saw on the internet.

    Roof’s mental problems led him to accept all the racist lies he read as truth, and give his life to “a fight to the death between white people and black people that only he” could see and act on, Bruck said..."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dylann-r...deliberations/

    And thsi from his manifesto:

    " I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me..."

    BBM
    Maybe he's just some sort of narcissist?

    I don't know

    I feel sorry for his family. I have 2 sons. 'There but for the grace of God, go I"
    This is just mo, I do not think he is sophisticated enough to be narcissist.
    I think he was learning disabled, which can be very frustrating in youth.

    It takes some intelligence to be the complicated narcissist!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulessa View Post
    Let me explain something to you. Put me in a room with ANY gun, and I could hit an apple every time I shot at it. I see nothing remarkable about his shooting, other than, he wasn't shooting at apples. God bless these nine souls that don't have to listen to such ramblings.
    I shall remember that and never anger you !!

    On the other hand your as safe as you can be with me! I failed archery in camp!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    This is just mo, I do not think he is sophisticated enough to be narcissist.
    I think he was learning disabled, which can be very frustrating in youth.

    It takes some intelligence to be the complicated narcissist!!
    Hi CARIIS.

    I keep seeing comments about how intelligent he was; from those who knew him and from the judge.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rnet-evil.html

    'He was always a loner. He was bored in advanced class. He was really smart, too smart. He loved animals, he was a generally a quiet person.
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    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-16-12-13-47


    A federal jury convicted Roof on all 33 counts Thursday. Those same jurors will decide in another phase of the trial starting Jan. 3 whether he faces the death penalty or life in prison.

    When testimony starts, Roof will be his own attorney, having again fired defense lawyers who fear Roof is taking over because he doesn't want them to present embarrassing evidence in their efforts to spare his life.
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    Here's another odd thing from Roof's past, which was also never investigated. Down the memory hole it goes!

    http://www.thestate.com/news/local/c...e25533301.html
    Was accused mass killer Dylann Roof thinking of an even bigger killing field than a prayer meeting at a Charleston church?
    That’s what some say when asked about a report from the Columbia police department about assault weapon parts found in his car March 13 (2015)....

    A Columbia police officer reported March 13 that he found part of an AR-15 assault rifle and six 40-bullet banana-style ammo clips in Roof’s car during a routine encounter in a downtown Columbia park. Roof told the officer he wanted to buy an AR-15.

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    Listen to Roof's voice in his confession video:

    http://player.piksel.com/p/fx1u5n94

    Now here is a audio recording of some guy who phoned in a lengthy bomb/shooting threat at the College of Charleston on 2-10-15, causing a huge lockdown of the area.

    CoC bomb threat
    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/T...rst-30-seconds

    Is this the same person? If this was Dylan, then it probably establishes a working relationship between Dylan and the cops long before the AME shooting.

    Coincidence or not, Roof at one time considered the CoC as a target:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ege/ar-AAbQtfs
    A black drinking buddy of the white man accused of killing nine people at a Charleston church says the suspect told him a week earlier that he planned to shoot up a college campus in the city.
    ... "He just said he was going to hurt a bunch of people" at the College of Charleston, said Scriven, 22.

    But the college is not a college geared toward black students. So deliberately targeting blacks may not have mattered much in his true motive.


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    Check out this short music video by a "Dylan Roof" posted on Feb 5, 2015



    Lots of confederate flags but no violent intent.

    Interestingly, there was another 'Dylan Roof' living in Columbia and who also went to Dreher High School, but several years after the accused killer, Dylann Roof.

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    Chad K. Mills Retweeted
    Ashleigh Holland ‏@AshleighHNews Dec 15
    Ashleigh Holland Retweeted Chad K. Mills
    One of the chaplains tells me the bells rang because of the guilty verdict @wis10 #RoofTrial
    Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills Dec 15
    Appropriately, that the bells of nearby St. Michael's Church have been ringing almost non-stop for the past hour. #DylannRoof #RoofTria

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    Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 60m60 minutes ago
    #BREAKING: #DylannRoof will not be presenting mental health evidence through expert testimony in the penalty phase of the #RoofTrial. @wis10


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    Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 9h9 hours ago
    W/ #DylannRoof planning to represent himself, fmr. US Atty. Bill Nettles says that creates a challenging dynamic for his defense. #RoofTrial
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    Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 9h9 hours ago
    Many have asked why it took so long (since attack) to convict #DylannRoof. Fmr. US Atty. Bill Nettles answers: #RoofTrial @wis10 #sctweets
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