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    Chad K. Mills ‏@ChadKMills 3h3 hours ago
    On @wis10 at 5, 6, & 11 PM - reaction/analysis from fmr. US Atty. Bill Nettles about what's next in the #RoofTrial. #DylannRoof #sctweets
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    Dylann Roof won't present mental health evidence in the penalty phase of trial

    "...In July, Roof's defense attorneys indicated that they planned to present testimony and documentation of a “mental disease or defect or any other mental condition.” However, that was before Roof opted to act as his own attorney, taking the reigns of his defense after his conviction mid-day Thursday.
    The convicted killer had 24 hours after being convicted on all 33 federal counts of hate crimes, religious obstruction and firearms charges to notify the judge with certainty whether he intended to introduce mental health evidence during the penalty phase of his trial...

    ...if a defendant makes a bad choice in representing himself, “There’s no legal remedy for that. The defendant has made his bed so to speak and is stuck with it,” said Robert Dunham, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center in Washington, D.C...

    In his closing arguments, Bruck painted Roof as delusional and suicidal, a disaffected loner who didn't grow up in a racist home yet became obsessed with a violent ideology based almost entirely on white supremacist internet sites.

    However, Bruck's words marked the last time jurors likely will hear from him because the defense attorneys now are relegated to a role as mere legal advisers. They cannot speak to jurors or introduce evidence on Roof's behalf..."

    http://www.postandcourier.com/church...7b6615f21.html
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    Commentary: Dylann Roof shouldn’t be allowed to act as his own lawyer

    "Dylann Roof, the avowed white supremacist accused of killing nine black parishioners at a historic Charleston, South Carolina church last year, is a 22-year-old man with a presumed history of drug use. He did not graduate from high school. He could be sentenced to death if a jury finds him guilty. And yet he is acting as his own lawyer to defend himself against 33 federal charges of murder and hate crimes.

    Roof is representing himself in court against the advice of the presiding judge, Richard Gergel. And by doing so, Roof will likely go the way of other self-represented defendants like Joan of Arc, Jesus, Socrates and Ted Bundy: he’s probably going to be convicted and killed...

    Because it’s likely to be little more than a spectacular suicide, the Roof trial should get us to admit that the lifeblood of the law has clots in it. Unprepared defendants shouldn’t be allowed to represent themselves in capital trials; the Supreme Court precedent established in Faretta needs to be overturned or modified in a meaningful way...

    This denigration of the right to effective assistance of counsel is what makes it easy to allow defendants like Dylann Roof to represent themselves. If appointed counsel won’t do much better, why not let people exercise their rights under Faretta and get themselves killed? Especially when the trial will add glorious sound bites and scenes of an allegedly racist killer getting to cross-examine his African-American victims..."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-se...-idUSKBN13Q4UN
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    If Roof is going to represent himself in the penalty phase, should he lose is he able to appeal because of "ineffective assistance of counsel" .... or does the fact that legal assistance is there on "standby" cover that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    If Roof is going to represent himself in the penalty phase, should he lose is he able to appeal because of "ineffective assistance of counsel" .... or does the fact that legal assistance is there on "standby" cover that?
    I say this idiot try to do his thing..I so recall the Long Island rail Mass killer who represented himself and actually alienated ALL (not just the jury) ... Dylann will ( if he goes thru this will no doubt do something similar. He's so full of self-justifaction that he has this need to validate his actions..which really is nothing more than validating the OLD OLD age of attitudes towards "Darkies"..as being the lessor folk..and should be grateful for being sustained by their owners!! .. Talk about OLD ways ( over half Century) that deemed such attitude as "against "Civil Rights".

    Dylann is not mentally ill..however mentally a midget and has been converted completely to "White Supremacy" ..This fact is no different than others who get converted by propaganda electronically from Isis..that corrupt those who feel disenfranchised or actually have no filter to figure it out.

    It seems a rather simple message..Right/Wrong or Black/White or Good/Evil or Self-Responsibility/ Blame others for your problems or Ability to gain a weapon to full your mission with no obstruction/ versus having to prove one's need for that weapon.

    Bottomline..will IF Dylann insists. He will get constantly stopped..IF he even try's to use victim statements to claim falsities ... He's 22 not 16-18..He should know better..BUT his Hate drives him to validate...SAD..False hope on his part to be sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    If Roof is going to represent himself in the penalty phase, should he lose is he able to appeal because of "ineffective assistance of counsel" .... or does the fact that legal assistance is there on "standby" cover that?
    If he represents himself, he cannot claim ineffective assistance of counsel. It doesn't matter how inadequately he argues his case or pleads to the jury to spare his life, he will have to accept the bed he makes and lie in it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    If Roof is going to represent himself in the penalty phase, should he lose is he able to appeal because of "ineffective assistance of counsel" .... or does the fact that legal assistance is there on "standby" cover that?
    I don't know the answer to that, so I did a little research..... and here's what I was able to find about pro se and appeals: (it's a lot to read tho')
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    First some ineffective of counsel articles for background, if anyone is interested

    §12 Claim for Ineffective Assistance of Counsel
    CRIMINAL DEFENDANT’S HANDBOOK


    "...The “defendant need not show that counsel’s deficient conduct more likely than not altered the outcome of the case,” Strickland, at 693, but rather “must show that there is a reasonable probability that, but for the counsel’s unprofessional errors, the result of the proceedings would have been different.” Strickland, at 695-96.

    Prejudice requirement does not require petitioner to prove that he would not have been found guilty. Prejudice in pro se motions is not strictly construed. In cases which “counsel entirely fails to subject the prosecution’s case to meaningful adversarial testing,” ineffectiveness will be presumed under United States v. Cronic, 466 U.S. 648, 80 L.Ed.2d.657, 140 S.Ct. 2039 (1984)..."

    https://libertyinternational.wordpre...ce-of-counsel/
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    Strickland v. Washington


    "Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668 (1984), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that established the standard for determining when a criminal defendant's Sixth Amendment right to counsel is violated by that counsel's inadequate performance.[1]

    The Court, in a decision by Justice O'Connor, established a two-part test for an ineffective assistance of counsel claim: a criminal defendant must show two things:

    Counsel's performance fell below an objective standard of reasonableness.

    Counsel's performance gives rise to a reasonable probability that if counsel had performed adequately, the result would have been different...

    Marshall took issue with the Court's conclusion that the same standard for ineffectiveness should apply in a capital sentencing proceeding that applies at an ordinary trial. The capital sentencing process is intended to be especially reliable, and "reliability in the imposition of the death sentence can be approximated only if the sentencer is fully informed of all possible relevant information about the individual defendant whose fate it must determine." The defendant's attorney is responsible for doing that. That and in light of the "severity and irrevocability of the sanction at stake," the standard for effective assistance in capital sentencing proceedings must be especially stringent. Accordingly, Marshall believed that a person on death row seeking relief from his death sentence on grounds of ineffective assistance should not have to show a reasonable probability that he would not have received a death sentence if counsel had presented more mitigating evidence..."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strickland_v._Washington

    More detailed:

    Strickland v. Washington
    466 U.S. 668 (1984)


    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../668/case.html
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    Some articles to read, about pro se/appeals, if you are interested:

    INEFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL

    "...An inmate who represents himself is not entitled to claim ineffective assistance of counsel on appeal..."

    https://californiainnocenceproject.o...ce-of-counsel/
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    Self-Representation and Ineffective Assistance of Counsel: How Trial Judges Can Find Their Way Through

    "...A defendant’s technical legal knowledge is irrelevant to determining whether his or her waiver is knowing and intelligent...

    ...once a trial judge determines that a defendant’s waiver is knowing and intelligent, the judge may not proceed to inquire into whether there are other “unusual circumstances” which would deny a fair trial to a defendant who represents himself or herself...

    ...a trial judge may properly deny self-representation based on “unusual circumstances” such as the state of the defendant’s health, as long as the “unusual circumstance” is something other than lack of legal knowledge...

    Hybrid Representation

    Often a defendant seeking self-representation will request that standby counsel be appointed to assist the defendant in conducting the defense. The appointment of standby counsel under Faretta is constitutionally permissible, but not constitutionally required. Standby counsel may be denied when the defendant refuses to cooperate with the trial court or with court-appointed counsel in their efforts to provide legal assistance.21 But a judge should use caution in denying standby counsel, because a defendant may waive the right to self-representation if the defendant later abandons his or her initial request to proceed pro se...

    Even if standby counsel is appointed, the defendant must be permitted to control the organization and content of his or her defense, make motions, argue points of law, participate in voir dire, question witnesses, and address the court and the jury at appropriate points. The defendant has the entire responsibility for his or her own defense...

    ...the judge must not permit standby counsel’s participation over the defendant’s objection to substantially interfere with any significant tactical decisions, or to control the questioning of witnesses, or to speak on any matter of importance. Outside the presence of the jury, the defendant must be freely permitted to address the court on his or her own behalf...

    ...A defendant does not have the right to partially represent himself or herself and at the same time be partially represented by counsel. Neither does a defendant have a constitutional right to choreograph the attorney’s appearance...

    It is understandable that trial judges might be inclined to resist allowing a defendant to represent himself or herself at trial. To allow such pro se representation requires an exorbitant amount of patience and vigilance on the part of the judge as well as the prosecutor. It can also generate tremendous anxiety in victims of violent crimes at the prospect of being subjected to questioning by their attackers. Even so, the Sixth Amendment has guaranteed that a defendant who makes a knowing and intelligent waiver of counsel has the right to represent himself or herself. This is true even though it “seems to cut against the grain of [the United States Supreme Court]’s decisions holding that the Constitution requires that no accused can be convicted and imprisoned unless he has been accorded the right to assistance of counsel."

    https://www.floridabar.org/divcom/jn...256ADB005D616A
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    Pro Se Defendants and Ineffective Assistance of “Counsel”

    "Can a defendant who chooses to represent himself subsequently argue that he received ineffective assistance of “counsel”? No, as illustrated by the recent case of State v. Brunson, __ N.C. App. __ (2012). The defendant in Brunson elected to represent himself. He was convicted of sexually abusing his stepdaughter. He appealed, arguing in part that he received ineffective assistance of counsel. The court of appeals rejected this argument, citing State v. Petrick, 186 N.C. App. 597 (2007), for the proposition that “a defendant who elects to represent himself cannot thereafter complain that the quality of his own defense amounted to a denial of effective assistance of counsel.” The rule expressed in Brunson and Petrick is universal. Faretta v. California, 422 U.S. 806, 834 n.46 (1975) (“[A] defendant who elects to represent himself cannot thereafter complain that the quality of his own defense amounted to a denial of ‘effective assistance of counsel.”’) 40 Geo. L.J. Ann. Rev. Crim. Proc. 515 n. 1601 (2011) (collecting cases from multiple jurisdictions, all of which support the statement that “a pro se defendant may not claim his or her own ineffectiveness as a ground for appeal”).

    The basic rationale for this rule is twofold. First, courts reason that a defendant who has made his bed (by electing to represent himself and thereby retaining direct control over his defense) must lie in it (by accepting the consequences of his decision). Second, courts worry that allowing pro se defendants to claim ineffective assistance would give defendants an incentive to sabotage their own trials..."

    http://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/pro...ce-of-counsel/
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    Dylann Roof Will Represent Himself In Charleston Church Shooting Trial

    "...A common question that comes up in cases like this is whether a Defendant may use the fact that they represented themselves and made errors during the trial that arguably amount to ineffective assistance of counsel in any appeal of a guilty verdict. The short answer to that question is no. In both Ferretta and other cases, the Supreme Court, along with numerous lower courts. ruled that one price the Defendant pays for choosing to represent themselves is that they will be assumed to be as aware of the relevant laws and procedures as any licensed attorney and that they will be held to the same standards of conduct as such an attorney. For this reason, a Judge who allows a Defendant to represent themselves in a case that would otherwise require counsel will often give the Defendant an extensive speech on the record explaining the consequences of waiving the right of representation, part of which includes waiving the right to raise ‘ineffective assistance’ on appeal. This is similar to the rules that establish that an attorney representing a criminal defendant cannot raise this issue on appeal if it appears from the record that the trial attorney was deliberately acting in a manner that would create an ‘ineffective assistance’ defense on appeal, nor can a self-represented defendant raise as an error on appeal the fact that the Court granted his request for self-representation unless it appears from the record that the request should not have been granted because the Defendant was not competent at the time of trial..."

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/dyl...hooting-trial/
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    BUTTTT: Bruck represented Roof in the guilt phase of the trial, so, in reality, I assume, he can say, if he wanted to, for whatever reason, that he was ineffectively assisted in that phase.
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    Let's look at the ballistics evidence:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=Dylann+Roof
    Chad K. Mills
    She(Mears) says the fingerprint on the gun's trigger matched to Roof.
    Karina Bolster
    Mears says she took 23 prints from glock magazines, gun, etc and compared it to the defendant's prints.

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/T...d-in-roofs-car
    Agent Kimberly Mears, a forensic scientist with SLED, took the stand later in the day. Examining the Glock and other items found in Roof’s car for latent fingerprints, Mears found that Roof’s prints were consistent with those found on the gun and magazines left behind at the church.

    What exactly does "consistent with" mean? She "matched" the print found on the trigger to Roof, but did she "match" the other 22 prints to Roof? It doesn't sound like it. This is exactly the sort of question the defense lawyer should have been asking, but didn't.

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    An opinion:

    The Ease of Dylann Roof

    "...Dylann Roof possessed, alongside his racist and murderous inclinations, ease. There was no forced entry into the AME church that night. Dylann Roof walked in, aware and confident that he would find no real resistance. He sat with congregants, and then, later that evening, he murdered them. Their deaths were unexpected if not exactly shocking — sudden, vicious terror unleashed on black bodies is a very old story — but what lingers for me, the hard kernel at the core of Dylann Roof’s behavior, both at the scene of the massacre and in every official glimpse we have been given of him since, is that ease.

    At no point in the aftermath of killing nine black people in a church did it look like Dylann Roof was in fear for his life...

    On the confession tape, the FBI agent says the church members had welcomed him. Roof interrupts and says he wouldn’t exactly call it “a welcome.” It wasn’t enough that they had not questioned his presence: He seemed to want even more kindness from them...

    And following the murders, he was still in possession of that ease. That’s why he could sit in the interrogation room and laugh as he mentioned the murder weapon, his Glock .45. It’s why, when the agents told him he had in fact killed nine people, not the “four or five” he had initially reported, he replied with a joking incredulity, “Are you guys lying to me?” It’s why, when the FBI agent sought consent so they could search his vehicle, Roof asked if he had to give it (in the end, he declined to sign the consent form). It’s why, when the agents said they were going to take a photo of him, Roof mussed up his hair self-consciously and said, “I don’t look too good right now,” and moments later added, “I sure wish I could take a shower.” He was not afraid. He had not been worried, while walking into that church or while walking out after firing 77 shots. He had not been bothered, driving down back roads until he was out of state, moseying down the highway, idly wondering about heading to Nashville since he’d never been there before. He had not been especially worried he might die while in police custody..."

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/legacy_mobi...070#.sa0j6n989
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    Can the bullets gathered at the scene be matched to Roof's gun?

    http://www.wyff4.com/article/defense...struck/8491262
    State Law Enforcement Division Agent James Green testified Monday that he verified that 70 bullets and fragments found at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston were fired by a gun recovered from Dylann Roof's car. Green says he examined 11 other bullets that had been fired, but the results weren't conclusive.

    Exactly how did he 'verify' that the bullets came from Roof's Glock? By comparing lands and grooves? Wouldn't many other new Glock .45s have the exact same lands and grooves? Again, this is a point any good defense lawyer would have asked. And why couldn't the other 11 slugs be linked to the Roof's gun? Because they were too badly mangled, or because they came from a different gun?

    http://time.com/4598502/dylann-roof-...ston-shooting/
    SLED forensic firearms analyst James Green testified that 74 shell casings and dozens of bullet fragments were fired by Roof’s .45-caliber Glock

    And how did he match the expended shell casings to the weapon? Did he analyze the firing pin marks and extractor pin marks to do this? Naturally, the defense lawyer didn't bother asking. And a new Glock would likely have the same marks as any other new Glock.


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    And what about the gunshot residue(GSR) evidence? After firing all those rounds, Roof's hands, sweatshirt, and pants should have borne telltale evidence of expended gun powder all over them. Yet I can't find any mention of this in the court trial.

    http://abcnews4.com/news/emanuel-ame...perts-will-say
    SLED Forensic Scientist Lilly S. Gallman will show that she found Roof's DNA on a belt and bag left in the church as well as blood evidence on his boots.
    Other experts will... show that gunshot residue was found on a T-shirt found in his car..

    Blood found on his boot? What happened to that?

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    Life or death for Dylann Roof? Two weeks until next phase of trial

    "...Jurors on Jan. 3 will begin to hear evidence about whether to give the death penalty or life without parole to the 22-year-old self-avowed white supremacist from Columbia..."

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/life-or...afa74c9d4.html
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    Dylann Roof trial: Will he get the death penalty?

    "...If jurors decide on the death penalty, Roof will join a list of infamous killers, such as Timothy J. McVeigh, one of two people convicted in the Oklahoma City bombing. McVeigh, who died by lethal injection in 2001, was one of three federal inmates who have been executed in the United States since the federal death penalty was reinstated in 1988 after a 16-year moratorium.

    The last person given a federal death sentence was bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in 2015 after he was convicted for his role in killing four people and wounding others in the 2013 Boston Marathon, according to the Death Penalty Information Center, a Washington-D.C. based non-profit...

    Shortly after deliberations started, the jury asked to again watch the video in which Roof confessed to two FBI agents. Specifically, the jury wanted to see the portion where Roof was unsure of how many people he had killed...

    The Southern Poverty Law Center said Roof "represents the modern face of domestic terrorism: the extremist who acts alone after being radicalized online."

    "When Roof searched 'black on white crime,' he found a flood of white supremacist propaganda. Once hard to access, that propaganda is now just a few keystrokes away from anyone, anywhere, who has access to the Internet," President Richard Cohen said in the statement..."

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/15/us/dyl...f-murder-trial



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    Quote Originally Posted by YESorNO View Post
    "...Dylann Roof possessed, alongside his racist and murderous inclinations, ease.

    And following the murders, he was still in possession of that ease.
    Yup, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors will do that to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starviego View Post
    Let's look at the ballistics evidence:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=Dylann+Roof
    Chad K. Mills
    She(Mears) says the fingerprint on the gun's trigger matched to Roof.
    Karina Bolster
    Mears says she took 23 prints from glock magazines, gun, etc and compared it to the defendant's prints.

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/T...d-in-roofs-car
    Agent Kimberly Mears, a forensic scientist with SLED, took the stand later in the day. Examining the Glock and other items found in Roof’s car for latent fingerprints, Mears found that Roof’s prints were consistent with those found on the gun and magazines left behind at the church.

    What exactly does "consistent with" mean? She "matched" the print found on the trigger to Roof, but did she "match" the other 22 prints to Roof? It doesn't sound like it. This is exactly the sort of question the defense lawyer should have been asking, but didn't.
    RBM

    "consistent

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    consistent adjective accordant, agreeing, alike, cohering, compatible, compliable, concordant, congruent with, congruous, consonant, constans, correspondent, equable, equal, harmonious, logical, not contradictory, regular, self-consistent, undeviating, uniform..."

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...com/consistent

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    Quote Originally Posted by starviego View Post
    Can the bullets gathered at the scene be matched to Roof's gun?

    http://www.wyff4.com/article/defense...struck/8491262
    State Law Enforcement Division Agent James Green testified Monday that he verified that 70 bullets and fragments found at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston were fired by a gun recovered from Dylann Roof's car. Green says he examined 11 other bullets that had been fired, but the results weren't conclusive.

    Exactly how did he 'verify' that the bullets came from Roof's Glock? By comparing lands and grooves? Wouldn't many other new Glock .45s have the exact same lands and grooves? Again, this is a point any good defense lawyer would have asked. And why couldn't the other 11 slugs be linked to the Roof's gun? Because they were too badly mangled, or because they came from a different gun?

    http://time.com/4598502/dylann-roof-...ston-shooting/
    SLED forensic firearms analyst James Green testified that 74 shell casings and dozens of bullet fragments were fired by Roof’s .45-caliber Glock

    And how did he match the expended shell casings to the weapon? Did he analyze the firing pin marks and extractor pin marks to do this? Naturally, the defense lawyer didn't bother asking. And a new Glock would likely have the same marks as any other new Glock.
    BBM I don't think this is correct. Every gun has "unique, individual characteristics", according to this article, so there wouldn't be any doubt that the bullets coming from Roof's gun were, indeed, those bullets after they were tested, so it would be pointless for Bruck to contest Mr. Green's testimony, IMO.

    How Can a Bullet be Identified from a Particular Gun?

    "...A bullet would carefully be collected to initially compare it to a certain firearm. Then, forensics experts would investigate to see if the bullet coincides with the calibre of the firearm in question. After, the bullet would be analysed to see if the rifling impressions pattern is the same pattern of rifling in the barrel of the firearm being investigated. Assuming the two match up on these aspects, forensic scientists would then attempt to match unique, individual characteristics that can transfer from the firearm barrel to the bullet..."

    http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/ho...cular-gun.html
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