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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous19 View Post
    Hey plotmaster Iam very familer with occultism and the darker side of mysticism, Iam very familiar on how and why itís done and what type of result it may produce, iam also very familer with the escort industry I understand why people in power gravitate toward these practices Iam very familiar with them. You seem to have a lot of information that the average person may not want to here or understand. But if we are dealing with something that is involved In the darker aspects of the occult it needs to be handeled a certin way. And I donít think going on about it will help here. Have you tried informing profiles at the FBI about what you know? FBI profilers have a understanding of occult practices or they should at least. Have you tried contacting the FBI and giveing them everything you know and who you think is involved? Do you think this is similar to a ďEyes wise Shut ď type of thing?
    On a road trip so had extra time to research and read that there is a creepy park near the old psych hospital that you are talking about. In addition, a demon like creature has been seen in the woodsy area surrounding hospital and said to have glowing red eyes and black hollow eyes. If this legend holds weight, there can be some loose cannons out there sacrificing girls to gain favor of this creature. It would also support maury terry's theory in his book ultimate evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddalena1 View Post
    On a road trip so had extra time to research and read that there is a creepy park near the old psych hospital that you are talking about. In addition, a demon like creature has been seen in the woodsy area surrounding hospital and said to have glowing red eyes and black hollow eyes. If this legend holds weight, there can be some loose cannons out there sacrificing girls to gain favor of this creature. It would also support maury terry's theory in his book ultimate evil.

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    Yes I have heard about this demon or whatever it is, but iam not in favor of the idea that lisk is into scarafrice to this entity the killer or killers may be very interested in the occult for accumulating power though. They may be serperate killings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous19 View Post
    Yes I have heard about this demon or whatever it is, but iam not in favor of the idea that lisk is into scarafrice to this entity the killer or killers may be very interested in the occult for accumulating power though. They may be serperate killings
    What do you know about this demon seen by the psych hospital and the park nearby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous19 View Post
    Yes I have heard about this demon or whatever it is, but iam not in favor of the idea that lisk is into scarafrice to this entity the killer or killers may be very interested in the occult for accumulating power though. They may be serperate killings
    Its not the only place on long island that demons were reported with red glowing eyes.

    I have had visions of hooded evil man connected to lisk case back in 2010. I understand that evil is evil is evil and often in mass killers and serial killers and hooded dark man is just a symbol of that....but maybe not


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    Quote Originally Posted by maddalena1 View Post
    Its not the only place on long island that demons were reported with red glowing eyes.

    I have had visions of hooded evil man connected to lisk case back in 2010. I understand that evil is evil is evil and often in mass killers and serial killers and hooded dark man is just a symbol of that....but maybe not


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    Oooo Boy well... this is a big loaded question where we can get very deep but Long Island it self is a strange place, a lot of areas are haunted or have some sort of ancestral spirt pressence just look at some areas like Mastic and Ronkonkoma, ronkonkoma spirtital forces are not that bad but the ones in mastic whatís out there is strange. Now with out getting to out of hand on this forum with my spirtual beliefs on land structures and why and how and all that stuff I honestly donít know about this entity I have just heard of something like that , never saw it and iam not gonna go looking for it. If LiSk is into something like the occult I would think he is doing things more for political power. So let me back up a bit why iam saying that. One of the profiles of LISK is that he is connected in politics and what not a lot of people in thoese circles are into wierd occult stuff, I honestly donít have much a theroy other then simply that and there hasnít been much to come out starring he is into things like that iam only saying this based of plotmaster theroy of sacrafice, basically iam just ackwoldgeing the theroy of satanic sacrafice and the possibility of dark magickal practices. But if thatís the case and I personally donít know if I belive that is then it wouldnít be a serial killer it be something else. I honestly donít know itís just theroy. And as a side note there have not been any psychic detectives tha have revealed anything that the FBI hasnít know from profileing at least that I know of. Really I know iam going on but if itís a satanic thing then it may not be a SK as of yet I donít m ow if I belive that theroy, now what I think someone needs to do maby plotmaster is get that Lawyers voice recorded and and let the victims family that where Called by lisk here it, unless that has already been done idk. Now People suspect Burke being a SK the problem with that is itís hard to be a SK and hold a job like that, itís very very very rare that a SK could be chide of police SK have a very hard time holding jobs, I still wonder about that guy who owns the Kung fu school.
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    wow...

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    (smh)
    I think the obvious is easy to determine without inserting cartoon characters into it and obscuring reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYviz View Post
    (smh)
    I think the obvious is easy to determine without inserting cartoon characters into it and obscuring reality.
    I agree with you completey and I donít think this killer has anything to do with local legends or satanic sacrafice, I was just entertaining the idea due to the fact that plotmaster seemed to be referencing some sort of saying sacrafice and if that where the case then this may Been something different then a serial killer case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous19 View Post
    I agree with you completey and I donít think this killer has anything to do with local legends or satanic sacrafice, I was just entertaining the idea due to the fact that plotmaster seemed to be referencing some sort of saying sacrafice and if that where the case then this may Been something different then a serial killer case.
    I agree and i think it is about power and political power makes sense. I know many wealthy and influential people who practice shamanism and earth based sprituality.

    Perhaps there is a group who practices the dark arts that requires human sacrifice. There is a psychic detective who went to long island to sense lisk and something frightened him terribly. The absentia energy that i pick up from this case is dark dark dark. ....something beyond ted bundy. I could be very wrong but the feeling has been with me since 2010.

    I agree that long island is an interesting place when it comes to legends and hauntings. The indian maiden in the lake is powerful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maddalena1 View Post
    I agree and i think it is about power and political power makes sense. I know many wealthy and influential people who practice shamanism and earth based sprituality.

    Perhaps there is a group who practices the dark arts that requires human sacrifice. There is a psychic detective who went to long island to sense lisk and something frightened him terribly. The absentia energy that i pick up from this case is dark dark dark. ....something beyond ted bundy. I could be very wrong but the feeling has been with me since 2010.

    I agree that long island is an interesting place when it comes to legends and hauntings. The indian maiden in the lake is powerful.


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    Well not to get off topic but I do not think LISK has anything to do with satanic cults I think it’s one guy who is a sexual sadist , i do not belive he is a powerful politician nor do I think he is the type that can pass the bar to become a lawyer if we are dealing with a serial killer he most likely works a job like a landscaper or something basic, now we can get into why Lon island hasn’t so many serial killers that can get deep into shamanism but I don’t belive that’s gonna solve this case. I keep asking this question what do people think about the guy who was spoken about who owns the Kung fu school. I do not agree with plotmasteri think everyone should realy do some research on profiling SK


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Thanks for posting these kings park/pilgrim state links western artist. Very interesting material there although very sad to see how some of these individuals were treated through the years.

    Plotmas - since you worked at kppc, do you remember when the state/kppc stopped using potters field, at the kppc grounds, as a mass burial site for patients with no family and nobody to claim them?
    KPPC from 1976 to 1996...pilgrim 2001"""out on disability..
    pi remember they were still using potters field in early 80s.. Probable used it until 1996"".though once patient confidentiality laws created in 1996.,all patients /people on. SSI /SSD..became targets...
    on another side..never heard of any red eyed demons walking around any grounds..and if there was one at a Pilgrim..The Dogs would have ate it...
    WOLVES.or Jesuits are the problem..Anybody who dismisses Religous elitist/fundamentalist..of the COUNTY elite..for NOT BEING INVOLVED IN THESE MURDERS..just does'nt get it...
    Judge Carl Copertino ..the Fordham Jesuit wolf in sheeps clotthing ..went out of his way to put an innocent person in jail..with his CORRUPT little county clerk.ALL THE clerks...are doing Gods work...Faith Based health Care..Copertino put me in jail...where Yaphank Corrections attempted to set me up in their Kitchen...the Same kitchen were young incarcerated woman were brought fed romanced..and

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    John Ray in the news, yet again

    Only putting the article here, because this is a John Ray
    thread......

    https://www.newsday.com/long-island/...uit-1.15352863

    article says John was appalled.......

    "Ray said in an interview a portion of asset forfeiture funds is intended to compensate victims of crimes, such as some of his clients.


    He said he was appalled when he read in Newsday that the district attorney’s office justified the bonuses because of low morale."

    John Ray's lawsuit seeks to force Suffolk Count district attorney employees
    to pay back $3.25 million in bonuses that were funded with asset forfeiture money.

    That's the pot calling the kettle black.
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    Oct. 31 - Bellone asked State Comptroller if the Spota bonuses were legal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpio girl View Post
    Only putting the article here, because this is a John Ray
    thread......

    https://www.newsday.com/long-island/...uit-1.15352863

    article says John was appalled.......

    "Ray said in an interview a portion of asset forfeiture funds is intended to compensate victims of crimes, such as some of his clients.


    He said he was appalled when he read in Newsday that the district attorney’s office justified the bonuses because of low morale."

    John Ray's lawsuit seeks to force Suffolk Count district attorney employees
    to pay back $3.25 million in bonuses that were funded with asset forfeiture money.

    That's the pot calling the kettle black.
    In his letter, Bellone said the bonuses, paid for through an asset forfeiture fund, were not authorized by the county legislature and there is “no authority in . . . [the county code] for bonuses to be paid for to county employees.”

    Bellone has said it appeared the payments were made “in secret.”

    https://www.newsday.com/long-island/...ses-1.14705493

    Im not a lawyer, others on this board are, but it would appear that John Ray has no legal standing in this matter.

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    You might be right Scopio, but the FEDS do and they have taken an interest in the matter. More to come from what I hear in a Ray related case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkshaw View Post
    You might be right Scopio, but the FEDS do and they have taken an interest in the matter. More to come from what I hear in a Ray related case.
    OH Hawk - why would the oh so busy FEDS
    waste their time on John Ray the nincompoop of the century.

    John Ray would louse up a one car accident. He doesn't have
    the brain power to win a lawsuit against anyone. All he does
    is exactly what he did in this case - he files a notice of claim -
    as you can read - is a precursor to a lawsuit.

    He files a notice and then screams to the rafters - look at me, look at me,
    I got a new outfit at Sears Bargain Bazaare or Salvation Army -
    look at me - look at me

    I'm a somebody - I'm on tv.

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