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    "Listen Carefully..." New Book About the JBR Case Featuring WS and FFJ Members

    Hey Everyone,

    Here is something you might find interesting

    There is a new book out about JBR that is a bit different than some we have read in the past.

    The full title is, "Listen Carefully: Truth and Evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey Case."

    It's written by The True Crime Detectives Guild

    Great sleuths like Cynic and Cherokee are featured in the book. I have not read it yet but Cynic has and at the end of the almost 3 hour Websleuths Radio show about JonBenet he discusses the book. LISTEN HERE


    If you read it please let us know what you think. Maybe Cynic can come on and give us a quick review

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    I'm reading it now. It's probably a bit dry for those who know the case fairly well, but I love the logical way it's laid out. Once I'm finished and if it ends up the excellent primer it so far appears to be, I'll write a review on Amazon. I think something like this was needed, especially for people who have heard nothing but Ramsey lies and spin for 20 years.

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    I just finished this book and thought it was laid out very well. Logical flow and easy to follow. The actual DNA reports are available and though the science of DNA is beyond me, a small portion is devoted to attempting to explain the different types, sources etc. Nothing really new but information that is recent is contained in the book. I downloaded it from my iPad to the kindle app.
    I would recommend it.


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    I keep meaning to post here that I really liked the book. One of those positive reviews on Amazon is from me! What I didn't mention in my review were a few of the specific things I was glad the book brought up:
    - the oversized Bloomies
    - debunked the stun gun and other "Intruder Myths" (as they termed them)
    - the Carnes decision
    - the JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation nonsense
    - John Douglas' bungling of the case
    - explanation of the medical language in the autopsy report regarding her genital injuries
    - the most recent DNA revelations

    There's probably more but I read it a while ago and that's all that immediately comes to mind.

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    Oh yeah, and they talk about the Ramseys' attempts at creating a "brand" in the media (wholesome devout Christians, a loving normal family) which I thought was a point most books on the case are too polite to state so boldly. So I appreciate that someone finally said it.

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    I'm reading Listen Carefully right now and as someone who has already read all the major books on the case, I can say that this is a welcome edition. It flows logically and chronicles all the inconsistencies in the Ramseys' statements very well. I honestly learned a number of things I had either forgotten or never knew in the first place. I recommend this book to anyone interested in the case, novice or expert.
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    I am new here so please excuse if this is not the place to ask. Is this book available in any other format besides Kindle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobHop59 View Post
    I am new here so please excuse if this is not the place to ask. Is this book available in any other format besides Kindle?
    Welcome - We're glad you're here! (and this is a great place to ask this question.)

    It looks as though this book is only available in kindle for now, but the good news is - you don't have to own a kindle device to read it. You can read on tablet, phone, pc, etc., with an app. Even though I have an older kindle, I use "Kindle Cloud Reader" when I'm on my pc (this is what amazon used to recommend), but there are newer apps on amazon.com now:
    https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/fd/kcp

    Hope this helps.

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    I've finally installed a Kindle app and this is definitely going to be my next purchase!

    Slightly off topic, I always thought it was rather silly that the writer of the ransom note used the phrase "Listen carefully" to start it off - which is an instruction for someone who is hearing verbal commands, like on a phone. Not reading a note, using their eyes. It reeks of over the top TV/Film melodrama. Whoever wrote the note had seen one to many abduction/kidnapping films.


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    I was given a Kindle for Christmas 2015 and although I've installed it I haven't yet downloaded anything. I hate gadgets - always have.

    But I would like to read this book so I suppose I'll have to blow the dust off my Kindle and start using it.

    As for Listen Carefully - wasn't that one of the phrases used by a kidnapper in one of those movies?

    Or maybe Patsy used to use that phrase when admonishing the kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Adventure View Post
    I was given a Kindle for Christmas 2015 and although I've installed it I haven't yet downloaded anything. I hate gadgets - always have.

    But I would like to read this book so I suppose I'll have to blow the dust off my Kindle and start using it.

    As for Listen Carefully - wasn't that one of the phrases used by a kidnapper in one of those movies?

    Or maybe Patsy used to use that phrase when admonishing the kids?
    That phrase is the first line of the ransom note.


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    This is a wonderful book. Great read and very informative. If you haven't read it, you should!

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    Here I go again.

    "Inexplicably, Patsy Ramsey remained in the solarium. Despite people yelling that JonBenét had been found, she sat motionless for several minutes."

    Guild, True Crime Detectives. Listen Carefully: Truth and Evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey Case (Kindle Locations 413-414). ALLFORONE. Kindle Edition.

    "Later in the morning the Ramseys’ friends were still in the rear of the house consoling Patsy, who clutched a crucifix in her hands."

    Schiller, Lawrence. Perfect Murder, Perfect Town (p. 17). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.

    Okay. A solarium is a sun room. The study at the back of the house has a bay window. I'm being nit picky, but the sun room and the 1st floor study have both been referred to as solariums. I've been confused about this for a while now and finally have a grip on it. This can refer to either room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldBear View Post
    Here I go again.

    "Inexplicably, Patsy Ramsey remained in the solarium. Despite people yelling that JonBenét had been found, she sat motionless for several minutes."

    Guild, True Crime Detectives. Listen Carefully: Truth and Evidence in the JonBenet Ramsey Case (Kindle Locations 413-414). ALLFORONE. Kindle Edition.

    "Later in the morning the Ramseys’ friends were still in the rear of the house consoling Patsy, who clutched a crucifix in her hands."

    Schiller, Lawrence. Perfect Murder, Perfect Town (p. 17). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.

    Okay. A solarium is a sun room. The study at the back of the house has a bay window. I'm being nit picky, but the sun room and the 1st floor study have both been referred to as solariums. I've been confused about this for a while now and finally have a grip on it. This can refer to either room.
    This is confusing to me. It was my understanding that everyone had been sequestered in the study (which had its own bathroom). I can see the sunroom being called a solarium, but I don't see a study being referred to as such. The study was at the rear of the house.
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