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    S1 Ep 5 Golden Era - A&E Leah Remini - Scientology and the Aftermath

    Golden Era

    As a celebrity member of the Church of Scientology, Leah Remini attended various gala fundraisers for the Church, many of them organized and produced by the Church’s production company Golden Era. Now the former Golden Era event producer, Marc Headley, pulls back the curtain to reveal the shocking truth of these events, and how his disillusionment lead to both his and his wife’s departure from the Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    Golden Era

    As a celebrity member of the Church of Scientology, Leah Remini attended various gala fundraisers for the Church, many of them organized and produced by the Church’s production company Golden Era. Now the former Golden Era event producer, Marc Headley, pulls back the curtain to reveal the shocking truth of these events, and how his disillusionment lead to both his and his wife’s departure from the Church.
    And what a shocking truth it is... jmo of course.

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    I felt so bad for Claire Headley! I had no clue this sick cult coerced women to have abortions. Ughhhh! Made me want to pull my hair out!

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    I know. That was disgusting to hear.

    And the scary way the 'members' were treated if they tried to escape. I cannot believe that the FBI is ignoring the illegal actions going on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I know. That was disgusting to hear.

    And the scary way the 'members' were treated if they tried to escape. I cannot believe that the FBI is ignoring the illegal actions going on there.
    And the alleged lies about all of the statistics...

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    Finding and confronting those private investigators just confirmed others stories about how they were followed, tracked, etc - I am glad that Leah and Mike confronted them and then named them on the show also. I am starting to get worried about Leah and Mike and just pray that nothing happens to them.
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    I don't understand how

    a) they have minors (some as young as 14) signing a "contract"

    b) is the billion year contract even a thing? Clearly a billion year contract is not enforceable so is it really a contract or are these impressionable minors just duped into believing they are bound by such a thing?

    c) if people leave they are then billed for 100s of thousands of dollars? How is this even legal?
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    While we are on the subject - I keep hearing that people join because they want to make the world a better place. Over and over we hear that theme. Scientology is making the world a better place.

    My question is - how? What charitable acts are they involved with? How much money, time or resources are spent in that endeavor? What specifically does this organization do to "make the world a better place"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    I don't understand how

    a) they have minors (some as young as 14) signing a "contract"

    b) is the billion year contract even a thing? Clearly a billion year contract is not enforceable so is it really a contract or are these impressionable minors just duped into believing they are bound by such a thing?

    c) if people leave they are then billed for 100s of thousands of dollars? How is this even legal?
    I don't know of any state in the U.S. that would hold a person to a contract signed when they were a minor. So the answer is no, these contracts are not legal and yes, impressionable minors are duped into believing they are bound.

    Many if not most of the "parishioners" in $cientology are duped into believing the things they believe. They are fed the made up statistics and stories of what a wonderful job their church is doing in "clearing the planet". But, these are the same people who believe that touching someone with their finger is going to heal illness. And they also believe they are going to get "super powers" from their religion - things like being able to read minds and move inanimate objects, etc.

    I really do not know what causes people to want to believe in these things, but it seems like you really have to WANT to believe in things that are just absurd. That's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    While we are on the subject - I keep hearing that people join because they want to make the world a better place. Over and over we hear that theme. Scientology is making the world a better place.

    My question is - how? What charitable acts are they involved with? How much money, time or resources are spent in that endeavor? What specifically does this organization do to "make the world a better place"?
    I am pretty sure their main claim to fame on "helping mankind" has pretty much been centered on how many copies of a pamphlet written by the late L. Ron Hubbard called "The Way to Happiness" they have handed out. I have read several claims by the Church of $cientology that just by handing out this pamphlet in an area, it caused the crime rates to drop! They tell this kind of crap to their members and the members apparently believe it. Meanwhile, no police department has ever confirmed or verified their claims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    I don't understand how

    a) they have minors (some as young as 14) signing a "contract"

    b) is the billion year contract even a thing? Clearly a billion year contract is not enforceable so is it really a contract or are these impressionable minors just duped into believing they are bound by such a thing?

    c) if people leave they are then billed for 100s of thousands of dollars? How is this even legal?
    The BILLION-YEAR CONTRACT signed by Sea Org members is a symbolic pledge of eternal commitment:
    http://www.scientology.org/faq/churc...-contract.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.91689cdce4e1
    How one woman climbed her way out of Scientology’s elite Sea Org
    March 27, 2015
    . . . she decided to sign a billion-year contract to serve in the Sea Organization in 1970. Scientologists, she said, believe in reincarnation, so you signed up for this life and the next life through a billion years.


    http://www.tampabay.com/news/sciento...e-laws/1155473
    Lawsuit claims Church of Scientology violated child labor and wage laws
    Friday, March 4, 2011 11:30pm
    A runaway from the Church of Scientology's restrictive religious order, the Sea Org, alleges in two lawsuits filed Friday that the church violated California laws regulating child labor, wages and school attendance. . . .


    http://www.law360.com/articles/26760...ild-labor-suit
    Judge Could Trim Scientology Child Labor Suit
    Law360, Los Angeles (August 25, 2011, 7:19 PM EDT)
    . . . When Montalvo turned 6, he claims, he signed a billion-year contract and was forced to work up to 100 hours a week for compensation averaging $35 per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcya View Post
    While we are on the subject - I keep hearing that people join because they want to make the world a better place. Over and over we hear that theme. Scientology is making the world a better place.

    My question is - how? What charitable acts are they involved with? How much money, time or resources are spent in that endeavor? What specifically does this organization do to "make the world a better place"?
    http://www.scientology.org/how-we-he...ministers.html
    GLOBAL VOLUNTEER MINISTER PROGRAM
    [...] In addition to serving their own communities worldwide, Volunteer Ministers extend their help to remote cities, towns and villages.
    The Church further established within its global network of volunteers a permanent Volunteer Ministers Disaster Response Team, ready to mobilize in times of natural or man-made disasters. Members of the team work with community leaders, government officials, relief organizations and other volunteer groups to provide physical support and meaningful spiritual aid through their organization, skill and experience.
    Spanning every continent, Volunteer Ministers comprise one of the largest independent relief forces in the world, bringing effective help whenever and wherever needed. [...]

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    $cientology gets away with what they do because they have the legal designation of being "a religion." They've got teams of lawyers who know how to word documents and advise cult leaders on staying within the "religion" umbrella. So far it's worked for them and the government seems to mostly leave them alone.

    However, I would hope any contract signed by a minor that obligates the minor to reimburse the cult for classes, should they ever leave the cult, would be legally unenforceable.

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    Is there any proof of the good they say they do from outside of "the church"? I am very hesitant to believe anything in links that go to "the church" at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellyd View Post
    Is there any proof of the good they say they do from outside of "the church"? I am very hesitant to believe anything in links that go to "the church" at this point.

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