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    Here's something from an old article on some of the Manorville cases. The 2003 John Doe was found covered in twigs and leaves, also potentially better location descriptions than what NamUs gives.

    Collecting the Clues / 4 unsolved deaths - and the scientists probing the case: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition] Samuel Bruchey. STAFF WRITER. Newsday, Combined editions; Long Island, N.Y. [Long Island, N.Y]24 Nov 2003: A07.


    The first body was pulled from a plastic trash bag in the woods three years ago. Her head, hands and right foot were severed off. What was left had been chopped into chunks.Days later, in November 2000, a man's body turned up a few miles away, beside the Long Island Expressway, intact, but heavily decomposed.
    This summer, a third body was found - a woman, beheaded and nude, like the first.
    And, two weeks ago, investigators unearthed a fourth body from a covering of twigs and leaves. The carcass was so eaten away by time, the elements and animals that it took a forensic anthropologist to determine the remains belonged to a middle- aged man.
    All four bodies shared the same wooded stretch of Manorville. But, police say, each one died someplace else. Both female bodies had been intentionally dismembered, but, so far, only the death of the first man has been ruled a homicide. None of the bodies has been identified.
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    Scraps of clothing, beverage containers, cardboard - anything that appears somehow connected with the body - also are gathered.
    Nothing of this kind, however, was recovered from the first male victim, who was dumped on the tree line beside the Long Island Expressway near Exit 68. Nor from the second male body - a 5-foot-3 to 5-foot-9 Caucasian male, between ages 35-50 - which was recovered from dense brush a few hundred feet south of the expressway, east of exit 70. It had been there at least two months.
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    Speaking of NamUs the case file for the 2000 Manorville John Doe was updated on March 15th yet I do not see any changes to any info -still no rule outs listed. https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/2725
    "Intelligence, as well, is really a kind of taste: taste in ideas. (One of the facts to be reckoned with is that taste tends to develop very unevenly. It's rare that the same person has good visual taste and good taste in people and taste in ideas.)" -Susan Sontag


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    Thank you, perhaps the update can only be seen on their end. What about this though? The first body was pulled from a plastic trash bag in the woods three years ago. Her head, hands and right foot were severed off. What was left had been chopped into chunks

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    I'm posting this here because this is one of the most challenging unidentified cases to find matches for (lack of info) but it pertains to all here...

    I believe that SCPD does not enter all of the Missing Persons cases into NamUs, in fact, probably a small proportion. Here's why (based on 2014 populations and current NamUs listings)

    Pierce County, WA (Tacoma) population: 831,928, MPs in NamUs: 103
    Suffolk County, NY population: 1.503 million, MPs in NamUs: 59
    Wayne County, MI (Detroit) population: 1.765 million, MPs in NamUs: 220

    I suspect that only a small amount of the missing adults make it into NamUs from Suffolk County. Missing children, college students and vulnerable adults are in the NY Missing Persons Clearinghouse http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/missing/#/ and probably eventually make it from there into NamUs. These types of missing persons are probably required to be reported to the MP Clearinghouse. But I think that any other missing adults are never entered unless their family advocates for it. Considering how much time I have invested into searching for matches for these unidentified cases I find this very discouraging. Is there any agency for oversight with this since the 2016 legislation in NY? Would this be of concern to the FBI?
    "Intelligence, as well, is really a kind of taste: taste in ideas. (One of the facts to be reckoned with is that taste tends to develop very unevenly. It's rare that the same person has good visual taste and good taste in people and taste in ideas.)" -Susan Sontag


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    Take a look at the posts in "will the long island serial killer be caught thread" page 48 on. Possible poi

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    Plenty of Latino males missing around that time in the tri-state area to choose from...I've seen varying ages for John Doe (one article said age 20 - 30 and NamUs says 30 - 45). Some of these men are listed as being heavier than John Doe but whoever gave their weight estimate may have just been guessing and it's also possible that they lost weight after they went missing, especially if they were using drugs and/or living on the streets. Also, some of these men have tattoos but it sounds like the body may have been decomposed enough that any tattoos weren't able to be found on John Doe?

    Jack Jiminez
    20 years old, 6'1" (may be too tall), 185 lbs
    Missing from Mastic Beach in Suffolk County, Long Island since 5/21/98
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/671/

    Joel Rodriguez
    19 years old, 5'9", only 130 lbs (very thin, noted as "thin build")
    Missing from Corona, Queens since 7/9/98 (Queens is near Long Island and came up often in clues on "The Killing Season")
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9980/

    Hipolito Flores
    32 years old, 5'3" - 5'5", 150 - 170 lbs
    Missing from Manhattan since 3/26/91
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24799/

    Jose "Chico" Flores III
    25/26 years old, 5'9" - 5'11", 150 - 180 lbs
    Missing from Greenpoint, Brooklyn since 7/26/94
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/22787/

    Edivano Ribeiro
    (some others have mentioned him previously in the thread)
    24/25 years old, 5'6" - 5'8", 145 - 155 lbs
    Missing from Danbury, CT since 2/10/96, car found in NYC garage
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4412/

    Luis Vargas
    45 years old, 5'11" (may be too tall), 170 lbs
    Missing from Manhattan since 3/9/97
    Diabetic, so that could account for the weight loss?
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10312/

    David Cunillera
    22 years old, 5'5" - 5'6", 145 - 150 lbs
    Missing from Pennsylvania since 4/28/99 but was supposedly on his way back home to NYC
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11086/

    Victor Richardson III
    24 years old, 5'8", 140 - 145 lbs
    Missing from Perth Amboy, NJ since 5/10/00
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1237/

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