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    Raven's Mission

    Wondering if anyone here knows where Raven went on his mission and if so, when he went and for how long. I have heard various stories with Raven as the source, and the stories vary widely in their facts. If you are uncomfortable posting, please pm me. Any information you can provide is appreciated.

    Raven is evidently suddenly very involved with his church and faith. Am curious as to how dedicated he truly is. Does his stake president know about his conviction for embezzlement or his repeated adultery during his marriage to Janet?

    Again, please post if you have any information, or pm me.

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    You know the whole show about Raven's religious revival, makes me sick. It makes me sick to see someone diving for protection into the religion that he gave no qualms or thoughts about when he--left his wife, committed adultry, stole money from his employer, lied to his wife, her family, his family, oh yeah, and killed his wife (oh and I could go on--like lying to be able to even put his missionary papers in, lying to be able to go into the temple, etc.) I would loathe him even more if I knew he was taking money from the LDS Church to pay off the penalties from his embezzlement charges (not misdemeanor) or use those funds to say, um go on little jaunts to Moab.

    So, I don't think that his bishop or stake president would necessarily know about his convictions or affairs. Although I would think that there's some way for them to find out--at least about the embezzlement, since we've got web sites displaying the info here. His affairs, would have to have been divulged from his own mouth (or the women that were involved). And we all know that's not going to happen.
    2 Nephi 30:17 "There is nothing which is seceret save it shall be revealed; there is no work of darkness save it shall be made manifest in the light; and there is nothing which is sealed upon the earth save it shall be loosed."

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    I went to school with Raven in VA. He left after the first semester to work, but did not serve a mission to the best of my knowledge. Does anyone else from the SVC crowd remember it that way?

    I'm always hesitant to judge anyone's commitment to their religion, but Raven's sudden turn-around is enough to raise an eyebrow...or two!
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    As far as Kaiden goes, he's a crappy father now and always will be. It's hard to be a good daddy when you murdered his Mommy.

    His beliefs are definitely not my beliefs, he believes in one thing and that is The Raven.

    I haven't been to church in eons, and I have more of a foot in the gate than The Raven ever will.
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    raven's mission

    Hey everyone,

    Been awhile since I posted anything, but I read a lot.

    I grew up with Raven and from what I remember, he did not go on a mission. He met Janet right around the time he should have gone on one--19 years of age, and then moved out of Utah.

    I'll post when I am home for the holidays and try and find out if he is there too.

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    Hey good to see ya RG! That would be great if you could update us with what is going on in Utah. It will be interesting to see if raven spends Christmas with his family or is on "vacation" during Kaiden's first Christmas.
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    No prob, ew. I'll post as soon as I get settled there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reportergirl
    No prob, ew. I'll post as soon as I get settled there.
    Thanks Reportergirl, just do us a favor....be careful, he's dangerous.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

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    Hey guys - I hope everyone is doing well - I've been following the site as devotedly as possible. I hate that there hasn't been anymore media attention, of course, the whole drama down in Aruba certainly didn't help...

    As several others have said, Raven did not serve a mission. I feel it safe to say that had he served one, his path in life very well could have been different.

    Concerning the idea that his current Priesthood leaders are oblivious to what has transpired in NC, you can rest assured that they know. When someone moves into a new ward, the Bishop often calls the former Bishop in order to gain insight into any needs or problems that exist. This is especially true if a new member of the ward is seeking financial assistance. The Bishop would immediately contact the former Bishop in order to uncover any previous history. Trust me, they don't naively dole out money to everyone who comes knocking. The Church delves into every aspect of the individual's life, financially and spiritually, in order to get them on the right track.

    Any forensic psychologist will tell you that the M.O. of many violent crime offenders is a sudden attack of conscience and a sudden flurry of religious involvement. Raven is true to his character.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jenifred
    You know the whole show about Raven's religious revival, makes me sick. It makes me sick to see someone diving for protection into the religion that he gave no qualms or thoughts about when he--left his wife, committed adultry, stole money from his employer, lied to his wife, her family, his family, oh yeah, and killed his wife (oh and I could go on--like lying to be able to even put his missionary papers in, lying to be able to go into the temple, etc.) I would loathe him even more if I knew he was taking money from the LDS Church to pay off the penalties from his embezzlement charges (not misdemeanor) or use those funds to say, um go on little jaunts to Moab.

    So, I don't think that his bishop or stake president would necessarily know about his convictions or affairs. Although I would think that there's some way for them to find out--at least about the embezzlement, since we've got web sites displaying the info here. His affairs, would have to have been divulged from his own mouth (or the women that were involved). And we all know that's not going to happen.

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    So, if Raven's Bishop in NC did not know of his marital indiscretions or of his embezzlement at the time that his Utah Bishop contacted him, it is possible that Raven has been able to fly under the radar ?


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    So, if the NC Bishop knew about the Embezzlement and the Affairs, The Raven was still receiving help from his Church. Wouldn't the embezzlement and the affairs be a reason to start ex-communication in NC of The Raven?????

    How can we know whether or not for a fact Utah contacted NC? It would seem to me that the Preisthood Leaders in Utah do not know about the Affairs or the Embezzlement preceding Janet's Murder as The Raven has been taken into the Church and attends.

    I wonder, how does he explain the embezzlement, the fact he is a CONVICTED FELON, had to pay back restitution, got 6 months suspended sentence, and is on two years probation? He needed money for his Vehicles?? It's not like he PAID BILLS with it.

    How does The Raven explain the fact to his Bishops that in the 7 months since his Wife and Child's MURDER, he has not contacted LE to find out about the status of Janet Marie Christiansen's and her unborn child's death?

    This is all too confusing to me, and I really have my doubts on what his current Preisthood Leaders know or do not know, but I certianly hope they find out by a member of NC's Church, or through a member of his current Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess
    So, if Raven's Bishop in NC did not know of his marital indiscretions or of his embezzlement at the time that his Utah Bishop contacted him, it is possible that Raven has been able to fly under the radar ?
    Exactly! If the bishop in NC didn't know about the affairs and embezzling, then he'd have nothing to tell Raven's new bishop in Utah.
    2 Nephi 30:17 "There is nothing which is seceret save it shall be revealed; there is no work of darkness save it shall be made manifest in the light; and there is nothing which is sealed upon the earth save it shall be loosed."

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    Good to see you NCBanker! Glad you are still with us. I'm wondering how much the Bishop in Utah would inquire of the Bishop in NC if raven is living with his family. The Bishop in Utah would know his family and possbily know even raven from when he lived there. Since raven isn't a stranger, would the Bishop in Utah still contact the Bishop in NC. He may think he already knows him and the situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewwwinteresting
    Good to see you NCBanker! Glad you are still with us. I'm wondering how much the Bishop in Utah would inquire of the Bishop in NC if raven is living with his family. The Bishop in Utah would know his family and possbily know even raven from when he lived there. Since raven isn't a stranger, would the Bishop in Utah still contact the Bishop in NC. He may think he already knows him and the situation
    I think that's a pretty good scenario and very likely what might have happened once Raven moved in with Karyn.
    2 Nephi 30:17 "There is nothing which is seceret save it shall be revealed; there is no work of darkness save it shall be made manifest in the light; and there is nothing which is sealed upon the earth save it shall be loosed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenifred
    I think that's a pretty good scenario and very likely what might have happened once Raven moved in with Karyn.
    Hmmm... Well, there is factual evidence to prove his infidelity to Janet, as well as his felony conviction for embezzlement. So, if the facts were to be presented to his bishop, what might happen then?

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