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    Quote Originally Posted by DQN View Post
    Hawkshaw said he heard or he he knows, Chris Loeb actually called Burke a pedophile, it was reported he said pervert, but he called him a "pedophile" that is what led to the beating. Hawkshaw also said apparently Chris saw videos or DVDs with covers of little boys putting their mouths on GROWN men's penis's on the covers of the videos. We don't know what other videos or DVD's were in the bag anything is possible. Burke took the bag from Chris Loeb's house. Maybe Chris kept some of the videos and Burke could not locate them no one knows except Burke what else was in that bag. He didn't beat him to a pulp for NO REASON. Like Hawk said Chris robbed about 20 vehicles that day, if Burke was smart he could have denied the bag was his if it came down to it, it could have come from another vehicle, there must have been something implementing and linking Burke to that bag.
    Maybe Burke was in the video.

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    Hey all, lots of unfamiliar faces and some familiar old ones. I've spent the past two days reading every single post of the previous thread and this one and have a lot to think about before I contribute much, if anything, but just wanted to clarify one thing - the porno DVD cover was of a young male who appeared to be about 12-13 years old with a number of erect penises pointed towards his open mouth.

    It wasn't multiple "little boys", FWIW. Nor were there penises IN mouths.

    Do I think it matters? No, not really. It is foul and unconscionable as-is. But, yes it does matter simply because "details matter".

    So just thought I'd put that out there for the sake of clarity.

    Thanks everyone for giving me a lot to ponder. Great work as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PictureSnatcher View Post
    I think he was being stalked by one of those crazy bloggers so maybe he got fed up with the looney tunes. It's too bad because Hawk really took down Burke all on his own in my opinion. He shouted about the corruption for years until they had to do something
    Hope not, but I suspect it's someone involved in the corruption that's trying to dissuade the Hawk from continuing (MOO). I also agree, that Hawk deserves the credit. He's relentless and for that I'm so thankful. The dishonest and corrupt ruin every profession and need to be weeded out. God knows, we had Rick Scott in medicine running the HCA scandal. And then voted in for Governor of Florida??? Crazy...
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    I have a theory about Chris Loeb coming forward about Burke.

    -The FBI may have been on to Burke (maybe someone on the inside that disliked him went to the feds) or the feds knew about the on going corruption in Suffolk County and have been watching all along, even more so when Burke shut them out of the Gilgo/Oak Beach murder investigation.
    -Then the FBI gets wind of the Chris Loeb beating.
    -The FBI may have approached Loeb to report it so they could get Burke behind bars.

    Think about it why would Loeb come forward with the incident of being threaten to be killed by a hot shot and having his mother raped if he was not being protected by someone like the FEDS? Because with out the FEDS behind him no guarantee Burke would be found guilty and do jail time. Let's face it Loeb was on drugs and a weakling due to the drugs and all of a sudden he gets gigantic balls to go public after Burke. a guy in power? that could have him killed and cover it up. Burke already told him he would kill him.

    I think the FEDS got wind of the beating approached Loeb told him they would protect him etc. They wanted Burke behind bars to start pressing him about the other corruption going on, the prostitutes etc. in hopes of cleaning out the dirt bags in Suffolk County and in hopes he starts naming names.

    Now that Burke is behind bars the only way they could get him to talk is if they have more goods on him and he is looking at even more jail time,a scum bag like Burke will turn in his own mother when it comes to him facing more jail time. They may be pressing him on Spota, Hackett the Carney Construction Crew, Utopia all to lead the Feds to the serial killer.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g...-serial-killer

    "Sini's final words about women suspecting their husbands might be an oblique reference to a woman in her 40s who told me about an 80-page report she says she provided to the FBI, implicating her husband in a grand conspiracy of serial murder that also allegedly implicated James Burke. She claims to have tied them together through a website called Utopia Guide, where men rate and discuss sex workers together at length. The woman believes the men threw sex parties together under the name Carney Construction Crew, and that some of the women who were hired were later disposed of in the bramble along Ocean Parkway. This unsubstantiated theory speaks to the wormhole of ideas bandied about every day both online and in local bars throughout Long Island."
    Last edited by DQN; 02-17-2017 at 10:04 PM.
    My 26 year old niece was missing for 14 months, body found in the woods. She was murdered.

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    Is this the same guy they interviewed in the killing season in the park, who had security with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwilso View Post
    Is this the same guy they interviewed in the killing season in the park, who had security with him?
    No, that guy was a pimp to one of the victims found on Gilgo Beach. Burke is the ex- chief of police of Suffolk County Police Department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwilso View Post
    Is this the same guy they interviewed in the killing season in the park, who had security with him?
    That was KW aka Khalil White.. he was jessica taylors pimp. Most of her remains were initially found in manorville in 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DQN View Post
    I have a theory about Chris Loeb coming forward about Burke.

    -The FBI may have been on to Burke (maybe someone on the inside that disliked him went to the feds) or the feds knew about the on going corruption in Suffolk County and have been watching all along, even more so when Burke shut them out of the Gilgo/Oak Beach murder investigation.
    -Then the FBI gets wind of the Chris Loeb beating.
    -The FBI may have approached Loeb to report it so they could get Burke behind bars.

    Think about it why would Loeb come forward with the incident of being threaten to be killed by a hot shot and having his mother raped if he was not being protected by someone like the FEDS? Because with out the FEDS behind him no guarantee Burke would be found guilty and do jail time. Let's face it Loeb was on drugs and a weakling due to the drugs and all of a sudden he gets gigantic balls to go public after Burke. a guy in power? that could have him killed and cover it up. Burke already told him he would kill him.

    I think the FEDS got wind of the beating approached Loeb told him they would protect him etc. They wanted Burke behind bars to start pressing him about the other corruption going on, the prostitutes etc. in hopes of cleaning out the dirt bags in Suffolk County and in hopes he starts naming names.

    Now that Burke is behind bars the only way they could get him to talk is if they have more goods on him and he is looking at even more jail time,a scum bag like Burke will turn in his own mother when it comes to him facing more jail time. They may be pressing him on Spota, Hackett the Carney Construction Crew, Utopia all to lead the Feds to the serial killer.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g...-serial-killer

    "Sini's final words about women suspecting their husbands might be an oblique reference to a woman in her 40s who told me about an 80-page report she says she provided to the FBI, implicating her husband in a grand conspiracy of serial murder that also allegedly implicated James Burke. She claims to have tied them together through a website called Utopia Guide, where men rate and discuss sex workers together at length. The woman believes the men threw sex parties together under the name Carney Construction Crew, and that some of the women who were hired were later disposed of in the bramble along Ocean Parkway. This unsubstantiated theory speaks to the wormhole of ideas bandied about every day both online and in local bars throughout Long Island."
    Good theory DQ.. it got me thinking about when those wiretaps were orchestrated by Burke and possibly Spota on suffolk legislators and whether one of these legislators went to the FBI. I just don't recall if those wiretaps took place before the Gilgo case went public.

    I remember reading somewhere that Spota went to either Attorney General Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder at some point.. for what, i dont recall, but whatever it was added to the heat the feds were bringing on suffolk and using the Chris loeb beating to put Burke behind bars, while further investigating the county, was a great opportunity at the right time.
    Last edited by Vapor; 03-18-2017 at 01:22 PM.

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    I go back and forth of theories as to whether or not Shannan Gilbert is a LISK victim... but I do believe fully that Burke was directly involved with her death.
    However, something that has always stuck with me are the phone calls made to Melissa B's younger sister Amanda. What, 8 calls in total? All said to be done in such a calm, collected voice... 7 of the 8 calls were received by the younger sister & the caller described what he did to MB and what he was going to do to Amanda.
    - someone further up in this thread said it was reported that Burke told CL he was going to rape his mother. Seems like JB may like to make threats, putting the fear into people...
    And on the same theory / aspect, one of the calls intercepted by MB's mother, the caller this time said he was calling from/with NYPD and wanted to know if she had filed a missing persons report.
    - again, I think Burke gets off on playing games and putting fear into people. I think perhaps during that call, he was expecting the sister to answer and was caught off guard when it was the mother on the other end of the phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LClapper View Post
    I go back and forth of theories as to whether or not Shannan Gilbert is a LISK victim... but I do believe fully that Burke was directly involved with her death.
    However, something that has always stuck with me are the phone calls made to Melissa B's younger sister Amanda. What, 8 calls in total? All said to be done in such a calm, collected voice... 7 of the 8 calls were received by the younger sister & the caller described what he did to MB and what he was going to do to Amanda.
    - someone further up in this thread said it was reported that Burke told CL he was going to rape his mother. Seems like JB may like to make threats, putting the fear into people...
    And on the same theory / aspect, one of the calls intercepted by MB's mother, the caller this time said he was calling from/with NYPD and wanted to know if she had filed a missing persons report.
    - again, I think Burke gets off on playing games and putting fear into people. I think perhaps during that call, he was expecting the sister to answer and was caught off guard when it was the mother on the other end of the phone.
    I agree that there is traction in your statement. Not sure how all the pieces fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DQN View Post
    I have a theory about Chris Loeb coming forward about Burke.

    -The FBI may have been on to Burke (maybe someone on the inside that disliked him went to the feds) or the feds knew about the on going corruption in Suffolk County and have been watching all along, even more so when Burke shut them out of the Gilgo/Oak Beach murder investigation.
    -Then the FBI gets wind of the Chris Loeb beating.
    -The FBI may have approached Loeb to report it so they could get Burke behind bars.

    Think about it why would Loeb come forward with the incident of being threaten to be killed by a hot shot and having his mother raped if he was not being protected by someone like the FEDS? Because with out the FEDS behind him no guarantee Burke would be found guilty and do jail time. Let's face it Loeb was on drugs and a weakling due to the drugs and all of a sudden he gets gigantic balls to go public after Burke. a guy in power? that could have him killed and cover it up. Burke already told him he would kill him.

    I think the FEDS got wind of the beating approached Loeb told him they would protect him etc. They wanted Burke behind bars to start pressing him about the other corruption going on, the prostitutes etc. in hopes of cleaning out the dirt bags in Suffolk County and in hopes he starts naming names.

    Now that Burke is behind bars the only way they could get him to talk is if they have more goods on him and he is looking at even more jail time,a scum bag like Burke will turn in his own mother when it comes to him facing more jail time. They may be pressing him on Spota, Hackett the Carney Construction Crew, Utopia all to lead the Feds to the serial killer.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g...-serial-killer

    "Sini's final words about women suspecting their husbands might be an oblique reference to a woman in her 40s who told me about an 80-page report she says she provided to the FBI, implicating her husband in a grand conspiracy of serial murder that also allegedly implicated James Burke. She claims to have tied them together through a website called Utopia Guide, where men rate and discuss sex workers together at length. The woman believes the men threw sex parties together under the name Carney Construction Crew, and that some of the women who were hired were later disposed of in the bramble along Ocean Parkway. This unsubstantiated theory speaks to the wormhole of ideas bandied about every day both online and in local bars throughout Long Island."
    My opinion only, unless referenced or supported by a link. Thank you!

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