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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minette View Post
    This is likely an unpopular opinion, but I have even LESS sympathy for abusers who were themselves abused because they KNOW exactly the fear, shame and self-hatred their actions cause and they choose to do it anyway. I will never believe that anyone has an unalterable destiny to abuse a child. My reasons are deeply personal, but they won't change.
    Totally agree. The sympathy card has expired and will not be renewed for this grown man.
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    IF this goes to trial, it will be interesting what connection will be made to Jeffrey's abuse by his father.

    IMO this will never go to trial as there are too many dark family secrets that may be revealed.

    Disgusting father, son, and Mrs. S. HAD to know what was going on in her own home. She is just as nauseating because she did not provide protection as a Mother to her own children!

    Once children are adopted, I hate to hear the word "adopted" tagged on as an identifier. I realize in this situation it is done to clarify the relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doghairrules View Post
    Different son. This one stood by his pos father.


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    Well now we know why!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMSHood View Post
    Jerry Sandusky saga is far from over. Its gets worse and worse.
    It will get far worse and probably extend off campus. The PSU 3 trial is start jury selection on 3/20,

    I will be making some relevant comments.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?

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    I guess he was molested by his father "JERRY: that raised him. Is Jerry's wife still singing the blues"NOT MY JERRY" and now "NOT MY SON THAT I RAISED" as she continues to turn a blind eye to it.

    In this case tagged as "adopted" would be the reason Jerry adopted so he could molest him.

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    Oh no.......sickening, disgusting, horrific. I don't get it with Jerry S.'s wife, how could she not have known about this, it was going on right under her nose undoubtedly for years. There's no way, she had to have known. Regardless, nothing excuses this adult man's actions. Sorry, no free pass for child predators, he knows better and should have empathy and compassion for children because he understands; rather than victimizing and abusing them just because he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neesaki View Post
    Oh no.......sickening, disgusting, horrific. I don't get it with Jerry S.'s wife, how could she not have known about this, it was going on right under her nose undoubtedly for years. There's no way, she had to have known. Regardless, nothing excuses this adult man's actions. Sorry, no free pass for child predators, he knows better and should have empathy and compassion for children because he understands; rather than victimizing and abusing them just because he was.
    I agree. She knew. And it is time that the women who allow abuse start to be held accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doghairrules View Post
    I couldn't agree more about Mrs. Sandusky. That is some powerful denial she's got going on there, at the very least.


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    I'm not sure which is worse....blind denial or willful denial because of other motives. I'm going with the latter. Which is it Dottie?

    When someone wants to keep their privileged life moving forward on a steady track then perhaps they are willing to throw victims under the bus. Or, perhaps they are involved in the abuse and are looking out for their interests in this regard? Which is it in this case?


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    Preliminary Hearing Waived ::: Case Advancing to Upper Court of Common Pleas

    Jeffrey S Sandusky for IDSI*+ :: Centre County - 1 Mar 2013+

    [Jeffrey is An adopted Son of PA Inmate
    Gerald Arthur Sandusky, ID# 39284341]

    Defendant:

    Jeffrey Scott Sandusky :: White / Male / 41 Years Old
    DOB / Date of Birth :: 04/05/1975

    Centre County is in Central, PA.

    8)) http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02...art_river_home

    9)) Police Criminal Complaint/Affidavit of Probable Cause:

    https://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com...x000061634.pdf

    Lower Court Docket SheetS:

    A)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000068-2017

    B)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000068-2017

    Fourteen Charges:

    1. 18 902 A [F-1] :: Criminal Solicitation – Statutory Sexual Assault: 11+ Years Older 03/01/2013

    2. 18 902 A [F-1] :: Criminal Solicitation –
    IDSI* Person Less Than 16 Yrs Age 03/01/2013

    3. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Photograph/Film/Depict on Computer Sex Act – Knowingly or Permitting Child 03/01/2016

    4. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Photograph/Film/Depict on Computer Sex Act – Knowingly or Permitting Child 03/01/2016

    5. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact / Communication With Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    6. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    7. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    8. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    9. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    10. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    11. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Child Pornography 03/01/2013

    12. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Child Pornography 03/01/2013

    13. 18 6301 A1i [M-1] :: Corruption of Minors 03/01/2013

    14. 18 6301 A1i [M-1] :: Corruption of Minors 03/01/2013

    Continuing Pre-Trial Confinement in lieu of $200,000 Bail,
    at Centre County Correctional Facility - ID# 170147:
    C)) https://vinelink.com/#/home

    Grades of PA Crimes:
    H-1 = Heinous of 1st Degree; H-2
    F-1 = Felony of 1st Degree; F-2; F-3
    M-1 = Misdemeanor of 1st Degree; M-2; M-3
    S = Summary


    *IDSI = Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse,
    (F-1), a Felony of the 1st Degree
    NCIC = National Crime Information Center
    NIBRS = National Incident-Based Reporting System
    UCR = Uniform Crime Reporting
    Last edited by Richrd; 02-17-2017 at 05:32 PM.

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    Case Advanced to Upper Court of Common Pleas

    Jeffrey S Sandusky for IDSI*+ :: Centre County - 1 Mar 2013+

    [Jeffrey is An adopted Son of PA Inmate
    Gerald Arthur Sandusky, ID# 39284341]

    Defendant:

    Jeffrey Scott Sandusky :: White / Male / 41 Years Old
    DOB / Date of Birth :: 04/05/1975

    Centre County is in Central, PA.

    8)) http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02...art_river_home

    9)) Police Criminal Complaint/Affidavit of Probable Cause:

    https://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com...x000061634.pdf

    Upper Court Docket Sheet:

    D)) https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...R-0000293-2017

    Fourteen Charges:

    1. 18 902 A [F-1] :: Criminal Solicitation – Statutory Sexual Assault: 11+ Years Older 03/01/2013

    2. 18 902 A [F-1] :: Criminal Solicitation –
    IDSI* Person Less Than 16 Yrs Age 03/01/2013

    3. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Photograph/Film/Depict on Computer Sex Act – Knowingly or Permitting Child 03/01/2016

    4. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Photograph/Film/Depict on Computer Sex Act – Knowingly or Permitting Child 03/01/2016

    5. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact / Communication With Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    6. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    7. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    8. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    9. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    10. 18 6318 A5 [F-2] :: Contact/Comm.W/Minor-Sexual Abuse 03/01/2013

    11. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Child Pornography 03/01/2013

    12. 18 902 A [F-3] :: Criminal Solicitation – Child Pornography 03/01/2013

    13. 18 6301 A1i [M-1] :: Corruption of Minors 03/01/2013

    14. 18 6301 A1i [M-1] :: Corruption of Minors 03/01/2013

    Continuing Pre-Trial Confinement in lieu of $200,000 Bail,
    at Centre County Correctional Facility - ID# 170147:
    E)) https://vinelink.com/#/home

    Grades of PA Crimes:
    H-1 = Heinous of 1st Degree; H-2
    F-1 = Felony of 1st Degree; F-2; F-3
    M-1 = Misdemeanor of 1st Degree; M-2; M-3
    S = Summary


    *IDSI = Involuntary Deviate Sexual Intercourse
    (F-1), a Felony of the 1st Degree
    (F-2), a Felony of the 2nd Degree
    (F-3), a Felony of the 3rd Degree
    (M-1), a Misdemeanor of the 1st Degree
    NCIC = National Crime Information Center
    NIBRS = National Incident-Based Reporting System
    UCR = Uniform Crime Reporting
    Last edited by Richrd; 02-27-2017 at 08:41 PM.


  11. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    It will get far worse and probably extend off campus. The PSU 3 trial is start jury selection on 3/20,

    I will be making some relevant comments.
    I am not surprised this goes beyond Penn State.

    Quote Originally Posted by DQN View Post
    I guess he was molested by his father "JERRY: that raised him. Is Jerry's wife still singing the blues"NOT MY JERRY" and now "NOT MY SON THAT I RAISED" as she continues to turn a blind eye to it.

    In this case tagged as "adopted" would be the reason Jerry adopted so he could molest him.
    I would not be surprised if all his adopted and foster children were molested.

    Quote Originally Posted by neesaki View Post
    Oh no.......sickening, disgusting, horrific. I don't get it with Jerry S.'s wife, how could she not have known about this, it was going on right under her nose undoubtedly for years. There's no way, she had to have known. Regardless, nothing excuses this adult man's actions. Sorry, no free pass for child predators, he knows better and should have empathy and compassion for children because he understands; rather than victimizing and abusing them just because he was.
    Dottie Sandusky had to have known about this the whole time.




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  12. #57
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    bookboarder, another Louisianian here I'm so very sorry you had to go through such trauma alone. I applaud you for your willingness to fight against this terrible cycle that was in your family. You are strong. Your strength can and has I'm sure helped others. I am usually very quiet in the forums, but I had to pop in and say how amazing your story is.

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    When all this mess was discovered and I was paying quite a bit of attention it, I always thought the Sandusky's daughters were never physically touched, but warped nevertheless growing up in that home's atmosphere. I believe that way back, before the program came into being and Sandusky Senior found an easier source of victims, he did adopt those kids, with the intent of victimizing the boys.
    And that really causes me to wonder, who victimized Sandusky Senior? Can we do anything to treat abused kids to stop the cycle without making them feel like a criminal?
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    I absolutely agree that Dottie knows. As did Spanier, Patterno (whom I hope has not a second on peace 6 feet under), and all others.
    Don't take yourself so seriously... nobody else does.

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    This may be even less popular . Neither Sandusky or his son harmed a soul

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