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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyme View Post
    could he use a gun to coerce them but used a knife? moo Im thinking the noise of a gun might draw attention. moo
    The sound of a gunshot in the woods may not travel too far depending on the density of the woods. And seeing as it is "in the country" it may not raise too many alarms as coyotes are a big problem here in Indiana.

    But someone not familiar with shooting a gun may not understand this and the BG may have steered from using one. Only a few know and they aren't speaking...yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf92 View Post
    The sound of a gunshot in the woods may not travel too far depending on the density of the woods. And seeing as it is "in the country" it may not raise too many alarms as coyotes are a big problem here in Indiana.

    But someone not familiar with shooting a gun may not understand this and the BG may have steered from using one. Only a few know and they aren't speaking...yet.
    Or here in LA. It took me years of living here to not hit the floor when I hear gunshots. Which is several times a week.

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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #18

    Quote Originally Posted by sf92 View Post
    The sound of a gunshot in the woods may not travel too far depending on the density of the woods. And seeing as it is "in the country" it may not raise too many alarms as coyotes are a big problem here in Indiana.

    But someone not familiar with shooting a gun may not understand this and the BG may have steered from using one. Only a few know and they aren't speaking...yet.
    This is so true. I am in Indiana also and we hear guns all the time. Never think twice about it.


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    Apologies for detracting from the topic. Way back in the last thread...people are referring to a belly band. Is this what they are referring to? If so...my lord...this POS came well prepared. I noticed a logo on the pouch...it looks like a six point star. TIA

    Onward->

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    A thought just crossed my mind. What if BG had cams placed in the area, much like deer cams, and was watching at another location until the right target came into sight? Would that be even possible? If so, what would the range be to receive images from a cam and can you receive them in real time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    I just don't have a feeling that a firearm was used. A knife... who knows, but I keep thinking a knife was involved. Maybe that's what the police were looking for in the creek?

    I do know during one of the police talks, someone asked if they were wet, and the man refused to answer. I don't know why I felt that was odd. I guess another fact that only the perp would know about

    That artist drawing of what he might look like, WOW, great job!

    I am stumped why this POS hasn't been found! The murderer in MS was captured quickly! Maybe the right tip has been called in but ti's so many they haven't gotten to it yet. One can only hope!
    I think the BG used a large rock or tree branch and bludgeoned them to death. I also think he had the urge to kill, he saw the two of them and went through with it. That could explain why Abby and Libby were not identified at the scene! I still believe he is a SK, and has killed in other states.. You can read my post on page 58 post# 863 on the last thread and let me know your thoughts!!!

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    He may have used a gun initially but committed the murders in some other, quieter way. I am thinking a gun may have been necessary, at the least a stun gun, to control and corral two healthy teens, more or less adult-sized people.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokota-Red View Post
    I think the BG used a large rock or tree branch and bludgeoned them to death. I also think he had the urge to kill, he saw the two of them and went through with it. That could explain why Abby and Libby were not identified at the scene! I still believe he is a SK, and has killed in other states.. You can read my post on page 58 post# 863 on the last thread and let me know your thoughts!!!
    I've seen this before where they delay identification and wait for the coroner to release. The most recent local-ish story was Shaylyn Ammerman. It was obviously her but the delayed the ID. In Indianapolis the will follow the same process often, even if they know the ID. It could be for several reasons waiting for the family to be notified to the condition of the body to [fill in the blank].


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    Wow, Independent, you REALLY went the extra mile to be helpful!!

    I still think the perp is 5'8" ish. I don't know how to express this, but you look tall and he looks short. But honestly GREAT effort!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    Wow, Independent, you REALLY went the extra mile to be helpful!!

    I still think the perp is 5'8" ish. I don't know how to express this, but you look tall and he looks short. But honestly GREAT effort!!
    I saw on MSM that a NYPD detective estimated that the suspect was around 5'10 to 6'0 tall. That's what I believe too, he looks around that height, probably 5'10 would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confusion View Post
    The problem with confronting them on the bridge is that there's a good chance that one, or all, of them would fall off. If one of the girls lost her balance and fell, she could easily take him down with her. MOO
    Perhaps it was a very soft confrontation. "I am a ranger/ police officer/ railroad official and you are trespassing private property here, ladies. It is illegal to cross this bridge and also very dangerous. I am going to ask you to step off the bridge.".. "Where were you going..?".. " Okay, then get down the hill and I am going to lead you back"

    Libby pockets her phone and is recording in case of an arrest. The perp does not try to take her phone away - yet. At some point the girls may feel something isn't right and try to make a run..

    Just my thoughts.

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    This may have been already posted, but just in case..
    http://fox59.com/2017/03/01/grandpar...-headquarters/
    DELPHI, Ind. – Family members of one of the teenage girls murdered in Carroll County are expressing their gratitude for the officers investigating the case.

    Diane and Eric, the grandparents of Abby Williams, left an emotional note at the headquarters of the Delphi investigation Tuesday.
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