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    Quote Originally Posted by rodee34 View Post
    Have you looked closely at the photos of SP holding the hammer? To me, it looks like a rock pick. Check out the photo where SP rounds the corner onto to the non tiled floor.


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    Doesn't a POI own a business named ROCK HOUNDS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodee34 View Post
    Respectfully, I see what you are saying, but because we are all throwing in our ideas for discussion.. Here's a thought...

    BBM If SP wanted to be perceived as "normal" I would think they would dress accordingly. Not too many officers wear a balaclava under their helmet in April. Not many cops do that in sub-zero weather, and especially not if they are inside for 40 minutes.
    (I'm amazed they kept their helmet on for that length of time, nevermind a hoodie...)

    Remember the bits of video we saw are merely snippets of a 30 minute (+/-). And not necessarily in order.

    One possibility is that there are 2 SP's inside that church. Both dressed identical, including the balaclava under the helmet. One is taller than the other... which would explain the different heights, the skinny vs not so skinny ankles, the different postures, the different hand tools, one seemed to be heavier. possibly different britches, one seemed to be wearing shoes or boots too big, or boot covers of some sort. We've gone over just about every detail (I'm leaving out several, I know... but I'm tired.) That theory could explain why we saw different details.
    Well put; a great way to surmise what happened. Thank you, Rodee!

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    I previously posted a pic from 1.48 of the MPD surveillance video where the killer is entering the alcove and it appeared to be the outline of the killer's face. I did an inverted version trying to get a capture of the killer's left eye. I'm posting the before and after for comparison. In the capture on the right you can see what appears to be the killer's left eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janesmith787 View Post
    I don't agree with the perp wanting to steal an offering. A very high volume of giving is done online now, and lots of churches will do their deposits on Sunday's after services are over. Of course, there are those who don't even count it until Monday and that could be the case with this church. I just don't think you go to the extremes the perp did all for maybe $5K cash and that's on the high end of my speculation. I don't think this church had a ton of cash given each week. This was a rage attack and a brutal, personal crime IMO. I will eat crow if I'm wrong, but the more time goes on the more I feel that's the case. I still think they know who, but have to get all the pieces in order. Sad that it's almost a year later and no arrest. I don't think it's related to CG, because if it was I feel like other trainers would be fearful and afraid to host their 430a-5a camps. AGAIN MOO.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaaBoom View Post
    You don't need to think that. It does happen almost every single day. All you have to do is Google: church burglary, and you can read the recent examples of it. Often they take a lot less than $5,000. Sometimes church burglars only take some audio or video equipment, and nothing else.
    Google for me only brings up this case when I look up church burglary in SWAT clothing. And at the time (or through May 20, last press conf) nothing was missing (money or audio and/or video equipment) from CCoC per MPD.
    Whatever or why the Suspect entered the CCoC orig motive may never be known. But once there, they became a murderer of Terri Leann "Missy" Bevers. JMHO, the breaking of door/windows, going through offices and rooms (per SW) could add possible more charges, enhancing the charges towards charges/sentencing. We haven't had an arrest so we don't know what the charges will be. I expect the State of Texas to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their charges, to a jury - to get a conviction.

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    No more crumbs!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    Based on my opinion the Altima at SWFA is involved and the work done here by Nin, Nearsouth iirc there apoears that multiple occupants in the Altima=accomplices imo.
    I've had various theories along the way but now I am at the one referenced here. My theory could change again if LE ever throws us another bone or someone offers up another related video. All JMOO
    The only "crumbs" we have gotten for nearly a year are from SWFA with their video released in December and "discovered" by a WS member.

    MPD is stumped or hiding something, imo.
    There is no way we could have this many clues: video, POI lists, etc. without an arrest!!!

    MPD is either in cahoots w/SP and family/accomplices, or they are playing "dumb", or MPD really has NO CLUE! MOO!

    IMO, any or all of the above instances are SCARY!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by janesmith787 View Post
    I'd have to agree. DEFINITELY think more than 1 knows what happened and even helped "plan," but don't think there were 2 in church. Camera angles can give off different views at different angles. JMO


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    And less the first and end comments in the 2:27 min video from MPD (which was only released in hopes someone would recognize gait and mannerisms) public has no idea what the remaining amount of video from each camera shows. We are only told paraphrasing "much of the same". Look how many theories have came out of that small amount of video. So many people who "have it figured out". JMHO it will be like those who argued that the Altima was not leaving the parking lot but was parked at the rear. When we see the 7 min approx SWFA video it was proven it was the Altima at the exit leaving. MPD is smart for keeping the remainder of the video to themselves. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodee34 View Post
    Have you looked closely at the photos of SP holding the hammer? To me, it looks like a rock pick. Check out the photo where SP rounds the corner onto to the non tiled floor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    Doesn't a POI own a business named ROCK HOUNDS?
    Didn't know they have a current POI. A person that was named in ATT Target Number SW, very early on at once time owned a business prior by that name. Anyone in general public could have access to any sort of hammer jmho. Especially if trying to set someone up as with the SWAT attair. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by knifemaster17 View Post
    First set of still pictures looks to have a Go Pro on side of head.

    This image shows Missy's killer (or accomplice). This looks like a POI on the MPD list of possible target phone #s. What do YOU think? I believe it is the BEST photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    The only "crumbs" we have gotten for nearly a year are from SWFA with their video released in December and "discovered" by a WS member.

    MPD is stumped or hiding something, imo. There is no way we could have this many clues: video, POI lists, etc. without an arrest!!!

    MPD is either in cahoots w/SP and family/accomplices, or they are playing "dumb", or MPD really has NO CLUE! MOO!


    IMO, any or all of the above instances are SCARY!!!!!!!
    RBBM
    MPD is working an ongoing Murder investigation. This is not a sleuth game. They aren't "hiding" anything from us. They are protecting the integrity of the case. This is real life. While I do not understand the Family of MB being so quiet that its as if never happened, JMHO it is a little brazen to say "MPD is either in cahoots w/SP and family/accomplices, or they are playing "dumb", or MPD really has NO CLUE! MOO!" even though you state MOO, (my own opinion). MPD does not owe us anything. They are,obligated to investigate the murder and the DA is obligated to file charges to prosecute the suspect once arrested and indicted by GJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
    Didn't know they have a current POI. A person that was named in ATT Target Number SW, very early on at once time owned a business prior by that name. Anyone in general public could have access to any sort of hammer jmho. Especially if trying to set someone up as with the SWAT attair. JMHO

    Yep, we are talking the same "Target number" POI list. No one has been cleared except TV, according to MPD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
    RBBM
    MPD is working an ongoing Murder investigation. This is not a sleuth game. They aren't "hiding" anything from us. They are protecting the integrity of the case. This is real life. While I do not understand the Family of MB being so quiet that its as if never happened, JMHO it is a little brazen to say "MPD is either in cahoots w/SP and family/accomplices, or they are playing "dumb", or MPD really has NO CLUE! MOO!" even though you state MOO, (my own opinion). MPD does not owe us anything. They are,obligated to investigate the murder and the DA is obligated to file charges to prosecute the suspect once arrested and indicted by GJ.
    You are correct, Mimi. MPD "owes us nothing". However, they (MPD) know they have a concerned constituency. It would be in their best interest to promote a positive environment with the public.

    This case is NOT just local. Many, many people are tuned in to this case daily. They (MPD) cannot bathe behind the mask of secrecy forever. Even an update weekly, monthly, would benefit everyones's sense of well-being. This is a flaw in the case, MOO!







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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    Well put; a great way to surmise what happened. Thank you, Rodee!
    Thanks, but it's what MIGHT have happened... just throwing it out there, as a possibility. I've been wrong more than I can count, but this is just food for thought. Thanks Arden!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    The only "crumbs" we have gotten for nearly a year are from SWFA with their video released in December and "discovered" by a WS member.

    MPD is stumped or hiding something, imo.
    There is no way we could have this many clues: video, POI lists, etc. without an arrest!!!

    MPD is either in cahoots w/SP and family/accomplices, or they are playing "dumb", or MPD really has NO CLUE! MOO!

    IMO, any or all of the above instances are SCARY!!!!!!!
    Couldn't agree more... ! There's something that's just not right ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    I previously posted a pic from 1.48 of the MPD surveillance video where the killer is entering the alcove and it appeared to be the outline of the killer's face. I did an inverted version trying to get a capture of the killer's left eye. I'm posting the before and after for comparison. In the capture on the right you can see what appears to be the killer's left eye.

    1.48 b comparison.png
    Thank you! I have to ask, what is the bright light? The helmet light?
    I know we are all surmising.. and throwing out ideas. I am not great at seeing things in normal puzzles, so this is a challenge for me. ;-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    Doesn't a POI own a business named ROCK HOUNDS?
    Randy Bevers owned a rock hound business.


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