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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    There was a post at the end of previous thread about the SWFA video being altered. WS member Nin did some nice work with Altima images. Iirc Nin was of the opinion that the video had not been " scrubbed". Perhaps if Nin is reading here he/ she can chime in.
    Quote Originally Posted by bye4now View Post
    I have watched the video a few times, and I did notice that at the beginning, when the car comes in the driveway, the video jumps a few frames.
    Yes.

    IMO, at the very least many frames (50-100+) have been removed from the video. The bad weather certainly played a huge role (especially at night like that), so it makes it hard to see with all of the super high contrast.

    I meant to post this in the last thread, but in case anyone doesn't know you can advance the YT videos frame by frame using the '<' and '>' keys. I figure most people know that, but thought I'd share just in case.

    Also, in Windows you can use the Windows key + the 'U' key to bring up the accessibility menu. On that menu there is a magnifier that is very helpful at making out details. I usually keep it around 200-400% and take screen shots from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    There was a post at the end of previous thread about the SWFA video being altered. WS member Nin did some nice work with Altima images. Iirc Nin was of the opinion that the video had not been " scrubbed". Perhaps if Nin is reading here he/ she can chime in.
    Thanks.. I must have missed that. Nin and the other photo/video WS'ers would be able to see much more with their software and abilities.

    When I looked at the last Altima photo, I just took notice that it looked smeared in certain places. When I looked at some of the other pics or video, it seems that at a critical point, the video jumps or in this last case.. altered. It was just my own personal observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nearsouth View Post
    Yes.

    IMO, at the very least many frames (50-100+) have been removed from the video. The bad weather certainly played a huge role (especially at night like that), so it makes it hard to see with all of the super high contrast.

    I meant to post this in the last thread, but in case anyone doesn't know you can advance the YT videos frame by frame using the '<' and '>' keys. I figure most people know that, but thought I'd share just in case.

    Also, in Windows you can use the Windows key + the 'U' key to bring up the accessibility menu. On that menu there is a magnifier that is very helpful at making out details. I usually keep it around 200-400% and take screen shots from that.
    BBM. Thank you!!
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    Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    There was a post at the end of previous thread about the SWFA video being altered. WS member Nin did some nice work with Altima images. Iirc Nin was of the opinion that the video had not been " scrubbed". Perhaps if Nin is reading here he/ she can chime in.
    I may not always be commenting, but I am closely following this case. If you have certain frames you like to talk about, I am more than happy to look at them.

    I'll just say this, altering frames - not deleting them - would leave a trace IMO, since the target is moving. Any blurring for example would have to be done consistently in every single layer.

    That blur or obscurity would have to be of a progression in itself considering size and opacity. We are talking about hundreds and thousands of layers. Lots of manpower needed.

    Granted, the SWFA released the video almost 8 months later, but MPD would have confiscated it on day one or two. Given the experience of the SWFA security cam operator or employee or owner generally watching the surveillance tapes - any tapes-, I am sure, they would have noticed any discrepancies. It's like watching your favorite show and they replaced some of the actors with lookalikes..just saying.

    All my opinion only. I am not a forensic photo - video - photoshop etc. specialist. Take it all with a large grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nearsouth View Post
    Yes.

    IMO, at the very least many frames (50-100+) have been removed from the video. The bad weather certainly played a huge role (especially at night like that), so it makes it hard to see with all of the super high contrast.

    I meant to post this in the last thread, but in case anyone doesn't know you can advance the YT videos frame by frame using the '<' and '>' keys. I figure most people know that, but thought I'd share just in case.

    Also, in Windows you can use the Windows key + the 'U' key to bring up the accessibility menu. On that menu there is a magnifier that is very helpful at making out details. I usually keep it around 200-400% and take screen shots from that.
    Just wanted to clarify that I was just speaking to the smearing or scrubbing of the images. I agree that there are portions of the video missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    Just wanted to clarify that I was just speaking to the smearing or scrubbing of the images. I agree that there are portions of the video missing.
    Yep, understood. The missing frames are obvious if you study it closely. As far as other editing, the only thing for certain is that it has been spliced and some of it has been converted to monochrome.

    As for further editing, I can't say for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No it's not View Post
    I may not always be commenting, but I am closely following this case. If you have certain frames you like to talk about, I am more than happy to look at them.

    I'll just say this, altering frames - not deleting them - would leave a trace IMO, since the target is moving. Any blurring for example would have to be done consistently in every single layer.

    That blur or obscurity would have to be of a progression in itself considering size and opacity. We are talking about hundreds and thousands of layers. Lots of manpower needed.

    Granted, the SWFA released the video almost 8 months later, but MPD would have confiscated it on day one or two. Given the experience of the SWFA security cam operator or employee or owner generally watching the surveillance tapes - any tapes-, I am sure, they would have noticed any discrepancies. It's like watching your favorite show and they replaced some of the actors with lookalikes..just saying.

    All my opinion only. I am not a forensic photo - video - photoshop etc. specialist. Take it all with a large grain of salt.

    RIP Missy Bevers - NOT forgotten!

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    Of course all videos and probably pictures was altered. Everyone has been looking for doll eyes. If you go back and start over from the beginning the first thing we overlooked ... it's a doll's head sitting on top of their head. This person has probably got PTSD. Then you will see the fake arm at dutch door. I have never seen a case handled like this. Why have us watch him walk? He had all kinds of stuff in the pads on legs. 10 months we have wasted time. I would post the pictures but I only know to edit on windows 10. If that's not acceptable delete my post...again. cropped ,lightened.
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    I agree they had alot of padding, etc in the outfit. It is my personal opinion, that is its someone dressed to look like RB....with the walk..the way they stand..etc...because alot of people would immediately think of him when they see that video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bye4now View Post
    I have watched the video a few times, and I did notice that at the beginning, when the car comes in the driveway, the video jumps a few frames.


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    Yes. Two of the three sequences of the car entering have that jump - though I believe that one of these sequences is just an enlarged and darkened version of another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rodee34 View Post
    To respond to a post, look at the bottom of this section. There should be 3 tabs. One is "THANKS" 2nd is "REPLY" 3rd is "REPLY WITH QUOTE". Just hit the 3rd tab, and it should open a new box with the quote in it. That's it.

    I don't see many living in fear here either. I know there are circles of friends that bring it up between themselves. It certainly wouldn't be brought up in a nail salon where you don't know who is listening. It's changed a few of my habits, but not many. But I think about it every single day, I pray about it and I can't drive by that church without thinking about MB, and how she might have been thinking about having lunch with her friends, or picking up a few groceries before heading home.
    Your post brought tears to my eyes....thinking of Missy and her family and praying for justice.

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    I think that LE is stuck because SP is not connected in any way to MB and because he didn't break in to the church for the purpose of that murder. If his one and only encounter with MB was the morning of the murder, and he left no physical evidence to trace back to him, they won't find him. We have a video where we can't even tell the gender of SP and see no evidence of a firearm on SP.

    I think the only way this case will be resolved is when LE connects SP to a past or future burglary and he is placed at the scene in some way or found in possession of the tools/costume we see on the video. Or if he confesses to someone and they come forward. Or if he comes forward on his own, racked by guilt.

    I think LE has full access to any and all communication MB had with people in her life. That led nowhere. I don't think she led some super-secret double life - and even so, that usually comes out during the investigation. The Paige Birgfeld case comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urtxtigress View Post
    Of course all videos and probably pictures was altered. Everyone has been looking for doll eyes. If you go back and start over from the beginning the first thing we overlooked ... it's a doll's head sitting on top of their head. This person has probably got PTSD. Then you will see the fake arm at dutch door. I have never seen a case handled like this. Why have us watch him walk? He had all kinds of stuff in the pads on legs. 10 months we have wasted time. I would post the pictures but I only know to edit on windows 10. If that's not acceptable delete my post...again. cropped ,lightened.
    That is the best face shot I have ever seen. It is such a bizarre case. The person is so nonchalant. I am curious to see if any behavioral analysts have picked his/her demeanor/behavior apart? Anybody from our community who works in psychology or criminal behavior analysis?

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    I know some were not able to see the face in the screen capture I posted a few days ago taken at 1.48 as the killer is entering the alcove with the flashlight, so I lightened a little and hopefully you can see it a little better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumnsantomauro View Post
    That is the best face shot I have ever seen. It is such a bizarre case. The person is so nonchalant. I am curious to see if any behavioral analysts have picked his/her demeanor/behavior apart? Anybody from our community who works in psychology or criminal behavior analysis?




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    Sorry, I do NOT see a face in the pink circle. Where are the physical features? Thanks for some help !

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