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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by bye4now View Post
    I have to get back to the video from the gun shop, I thought it was odd, that the driver
    a). put the right signal on, coming out of a vacant parking lot at 4:00 or whenever in the morning.
    b) correct me if I am wrong, but you only turn right?

    The church was left out of the lot, has anyone seen the video continued to see if that car made a U-turn to head to the church?



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    Pretty weird considering didn't use it pulling in I don't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    IMO There is no "fake arm" or "fake head" and saying Windows Slate does not explain what edits/ photoshopping has been done to images. All JMHO!
    Windows 10 photo editing, under editing the color slate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball3804 View Post
    To your point A, there are states in which police can and will ticket someone for failing to signal when leaving a parking lot. It is part of defensive driving technique, taking every opportunity to alert others to what you plan to do next.

    As for no one being around at 4 in the morning, I don't see that it matters. You establish driving habits and follow them consistently whether anyone else is around or not. Most of us don't blow through stop signs or red lights at 4 in the morning just because no one else is around.


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    Welcome back Cannonball. You've obviously not seen me driving out of parking lots at 4 a.m.

    I'm thinking there is someone in the SUV parked on the side of SWFA. The Altima driver could have used the turn signal to alert the SUV driver to follow " this way". All JMO
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    The nonchalance of the person in the police gear is very surprising to me. I do not see signs of nervousness or hurrying. I also am amazed the person would make noise, such as breaking windows. This is no burglar! Am thinking this person, besides being a cold-blooded killer, is also taunting police. Seems when he/she looks at the camera at one point, he/she knows they may be on camera. Makes no attempt to smash it. Also makes me think he/she has backup. The confidence displayed makes me think this person has killed before, and/or is thinking what he/she is about to do is deserved/justified. It is not normal human behaviour, put it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    Where is the face? I cannot make it out. Thanks!
    Sorry......
    I see it, looks very female to me... just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    Welcome back Cannonball. You've obviously not seen me driving out of parking lots at 4 a.m.

    I'm thinking there is someone in the SUV parked on the side of SWFA. The Altima driver could have used the turn signal to alert the SUV driver to follow " this way". All JMO
    That is very interesting Ezrah.
    Hadn't given that any thought but
    now that you mention it it is sort of plausible. Perhaps the driver of the Altima parked in the parking lot until the driver of this "van" could get down to the vehicle and follow the Altima.

    If you view the longer Brainscratch video in January 2017 uploaded by SWFA re the Bevers case, you'll see at the end the host's reasoning why it may have been shown. ( the guy behind the SWFA counter has an SP like walk and...the boxes to the right of the counter look similar to the
    box SP is holding in the church video.)

    But then, the Brainscratch host of the shorter version of Brainscratch, (that follows after theJanuary 2017 longer video )reads answers to questions he had submitted to SWFA and the subsequent answers he received from SWFA.

    A far fetched theory that appears to be debunked but definitely worth a look.

    Will find the links and post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
    That is very interesting Ezrah.
    Hadn't given that any thought but
    now that you mention it it is sort of plausible. Perhaps the driver of the Altima parked in the parking lot until the driver of this "van" could get down to the vehicle and follow the Altima.

    If you view the longer Brainscratch video in January 2017 uploaded by SWFA re the Bevers case, you'll see at the end the host's reasoning why it may have been shown. ( the guy behind the SWFA counter has an SP like walk and...the boxes to the right of the counter look similar to the
    box SP is holding in the church video.)

    But then, the Brainscratch host of the shorter version of Brainscratch, (that follows after theJanuary 2017 longer video )reads answers to questions he had submitted to SWFA and the subsequent answers he received from SWFA.

    A far fetched theory that appears to be debunked but definitely worth a look.

    Will find the links and post.

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    about 32 min. And then watch the 2nd Brainscratch titled "Answers from SWFA" about 4 min long.

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    I cannot make out anything that looks like a face. I can't even orient myself to where this picture is from based on the original. Would be helpful when posting "revealing" photos to do a side-by-side-by-side view.

    1. The original from the video marked with where the picture is cropped from.

    2. The revealing photo with all edits noted as per TOS.

    3. The revealing photo again, with outlines of suspected features (in this case, the face).

    It would be a big help! TYIA


    Quote Originally Posted by ardenmost View Post
    Where is the face? I cannot make it out. Thanks!
    Sorry......
    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPC View Post
    I know some were not able to see the face in the screen capture I posted a few days ago taken at 1.48 as the killer is entering the alcove with the flashlight, so I lightened a little and hopefully you can see it a little better.

    Just my opine stream of consciousness.

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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #42

    This is in reply to Razz. Forgot to reply w quote. oops! I have seen the Brainscratch videos you referenced and recall the comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilyk View Post
    I cannot make out anything that looks like a face. I can't even orient myself to where this picture is from based on the original. Would be helpful when posting "revealing" photos to do a side-by-side-by-side view.

    1. The original from the video marked with where the picture is cropped from.

    2. The revealing photo with all edits noted as per TOS.

    3. The revealing photo again, with outlines of suspected features (in this case, the face).

    It would be a big help! TYIA
    Ms PC originally posted this in the previous thread before it closed and provided some extra info as seen in ss here.
    All statements are my opinion only.


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    Can someone link me to the long video of the creekside church video? I want to know when the rectangle box appeared in the perp's hand. Did he/she walk in with it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bye4now View Post
    Can someone link me to the long video of the creekside church video? I want to know when the rectangle box appeared in the perp's hand. Did he/she walk in with it?


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    All the media links are listed at the beginning of each thread in case there are other links you need. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePS8TJ6UAqY
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezrah View Post
    Ms PC originally posted this in the previous thread before it closed and provided some extra info as seen in ss here.
    I appreciate the assist Ezrah. But I'm still clueless as to what I'm looking at in the zoomed in photo (assuming it is a full face photo?) No response necessary I'll just probably move on. TY!
    Just my opine stream of consciousness.

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    Can someone that has good PC editing software get some still shots of SP's left hand when you see it with nothing but the floor behind it?

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    TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #42

    Quote Originally Posted by lilyk View Post
    I appreciate the assist Ezrah. But I'm still clueless as to what I'm looking at in the zoomed in photo (assuming it is a full face photo?) No response necessary I'll just probably move on. TY!
    I'll help anyway...trying to wake-up Missy's thread so she's not forgotten. This is what I see in Ms PCs pic. I don't know why some can and some can't see it. I lightened it and just put a colored filter on it to help show detail. IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/08a2efb1c6af349310a9dcf253e062c9.jpg[/IMG]
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