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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #21

    Dear Websleuths Members,

    Please DO NOT bring in family members of the victim's and suggest they might have had something to do with the crime. As of right now, there is ZERO evidence to suggest this is the case.

    People, please think about what Abby and Liberty's loved ones are going through right now.

    They lost their two angels to murder and now they read on the Internet people are ripping their lives apart.

    Same thing with any random person you happen to bring up. These people do not deserve to have their lives spread out and accusations made against them based on a theory with nothing to back it up.

    I know it's frustrating when you go on other sites and they are talking about EVERYTHING but we just do not work that way on Websleuths.

    You are anonymous behind your computer screen. Doesn't hurt you if you post something that's not true about a grieving family member. You step away from your computer and all is well. Meanwhile, your words are like burning hot knives in people's hearts.

    Please take a moment to read our rules
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    If you have any questions please email websleuthscomments@gmail.com or send a private message.

    Ask yourself the following; Would you stand face to face with the person you are accusing, tell them your theory and tell them your real name?

    Even with our tight and well thought out rules Websleuths is able to do amazing sleuthing.

    Thank you for caring about Abby and Liberty.

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    MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trai
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    Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at High Bridge, just east of Delphi.


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
    Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

    SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

    RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocgrad View Post
    I know when I tilt my phone up or down it changes the light. Is it possible that Libby was moving and tilted the phone in such a way it changed the light? And that's why the 2nd photo looks tilted?
    That's exactly what I think happened! Thanks!! I meant to mention that.

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    Sorry thread closed and I wanted to go back and edit post....

    Originally Posted by Speechsound I have participated in the Wiccan community in the past and you really, really need to research Wicca from reliable sources before you post something like this. The Wiccan Rede is "Harm none". Wiccans and pagans are a fairly benign group of people, think hippies of all ages, races and creeds. Don't believe the summoning of devils with pentograms rubbish you see on TV movies. It doesn't happen, but the misconception persists. The taking of a life or causing harm to another living being is ABSOLUTELY taboo and forbidden.

    If you are getting them mixed up with Satanists, you need to remember that Satan is a Christian construct and as such is not recognized in Wicca.

    (This may be my first post but I've been lurking for awhile.)
    I myself am not a Christian.. and I don't believe in a devil..am somewhere in between wiccan/pagan....hence why I said someone of darker forces... Do not assume you know me or what I've researched..I've been involved in wicca and the occult for over 30 yrs.so before you assume....well...u should never assume anything as I have learned
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    Just in time to turn in.

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    just tryin to delete this
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    Quote Originally Posted by liltexans View Post
    I caught a little bit of LivePD tonight hoping they would mention the girls but I didn't see anything. I also turned it on right after I saw the post yesterday but they had gone to another story.

    Did anyone catch it last night and is there a transcript or video?

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    For a donation, folks picked up a pack of orange bulbs at local stores.Proceeds will go to the families of the victims.

    "It's very important," said Del Babcock. "I'm a family friend with the German family, known them for a long time. I think they appreciate all the support they can get."

    The support can be seen up and down so many streets here.

    "And he's going to get caught and when he does he's going to get what he deserves. I'm very emotional," said Jessica Babcock. She said she knows the victims families.

    "I've had the FBI at my house. State police was here today going door to door asking questions,"she said. "I have two young children myself, a three-year-old and a four-year-old. I don't even trust them to come out and play anymore."

    Amber Vandervort said the orange light were important, even to her kids. "They're all scared. If somebody sees something somebody's going to report it. It gives us a little more peace going outside alone, so that definitely helps."

    https://www.wthr.com/article/orange-...-investigators

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    IMO I still honestly believe the police have a good idea who is responsible and are just waiting for evidence to come back

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBosox78 View Post
    I caught a little bit of LivePD tonight hoping they would mention the girls but I didn't see anything. I also turned it on right after I saw the post yesterday but they had gone to another story.

    Did anyone catch it last night and is there a transcript or video?

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    It aired last night. I can't find a transcript, but here's the link to the show page. You might be able to watch the episode online.

    http://www.aetv.com/shows/live-pd

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    Quote Originally Posted by liltexans View Post
    For a donation, folks picked up a pack of orange bulbs at local stores.Proceeds will go to the families of the victims.

    "It's very important," said Del Babcock. "I'm a family friend with the German family, known them for a long time. I think they appreciate all the support they can get."

    The support can be seen up and down so many streets here.

    "And he's going to get caught and when he does he's going to get what he deserves. I'm very emotional," said Jessica Babcock. She said she knows the victims families.

    "I've had the FBI at my house. State police was here today going door to door asking questions,"she said. "I have two young children myself, a three-year-old and a four-year-old. I don't even trust them to come out and play anymore."

    Amber Vandervort said the orange light were important, even to her kids. "They're all scared. If somebody sees something somebody's going to report it. It gives us a little more peace going outside alone, so that definitely helps."

    https://www.wthr.com/article/orange-...-investigators
    I live an hour away. We purchased an orange bulb at Menard's last night and we'll burn it every night until this monster is caught!

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    Seen a great youtube video posted not long ago that does a great job of explaining what happened. Although, the two pics of BG I think people have backwards in time. The pic with "Abby's jacket" in part of the pic, is the first pic in point of time. The pic of him cocking his leg sideways comes next in time. The reason her jacket is in the first pic and not the second, (time wise) has to do with the angle of the camera. If you look at the railroad ties, you'll notice the long black streak going across the span of the bridge. That is a large gap. A large enough gap that he had to cock his leg sideways in order to make a big step over it. If you look at those two pics side by side and note the large gap, you will see that the pic with "Abby's jacket" is the first one in time.

    People may realize that already, but it seems that a few don't. Not that it matters much.
    Last edited by nowayinhell; 03-05-2017 at 01:45 AM.

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