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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #22

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    Please DO NOT bring in family members of the victim's and suggest they might have had something to do with the crime. As of right now, there is ZERO evidence to suggest this is the case.

    People, please think about what Abby and Liberty's loved ones are going through right now.

    They lost their two angels to murder and now they read on the Internet people are ripping their lives apart.

    Same thing with any random person you happen to bring up. These people do not deserve to have their lives spread out and accusations made against them based on a theory with nothing to back it up.

    I know it's frustrating when you go on other sites and they are talking about EVERYTHING but we just do not work that way on Websleuths.

    You are anonymous behind your computer screen. Doesn't hurt you if you post something that's not true about a grieving family member. You step away from your computer and all is well. Meanwhile, your words are like burning hot knives in people's hearts.

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    MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trai
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    Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at High Bridge, just east of Delphi.


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
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    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

    SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

    RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

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    Has the ISP Radio Roadshow been posted here yet?

    ETA: Interview with Capt. Dave Bursten on 3.5.17
    https://youtu.be/vEX8WuCOC8o
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    I posted about it this morning but it kind of got passed over. Pat McAfee and the cast of the Bob and Tom show talked about the case for about 4 minutes this morning.

    Interesting things Pat said... "They think he's from out of state" AND he said that he's a serial killer or will be and just started. Not sure if just his opinion or was insider info.

    Started talking about it about 7:21am... not sure if there is a download for the show after or not?

    Hopefully the right person heard it! I'm not sure how many people listen outside of Indiana...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpeverum View Post
    Has the ISP Radio Roadshow been posted here yet?

    ETA: Interview with Capt. Dave Bursten on 3.5.17
    https://youtu.be/vEX8WuCOC8o
    This one? If it was I missed it....



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    my response to ocgrad - sorry I don't know how to respond with quote from a closed thread [#21]
    My feeling here is that tweaking photos from already poor quality images has a tendency to muddy the waters but that is not to say there is no hood or that hair is definitive - just that we are more likely to see different things.
    In the first of the side by side inverted images you posted I see what looks to be a hair part in the upper part of the head - which doesn't seem possible if there is a hood and in the second image, what appears to be a hood is swamping the entire face so that it is all blended in together whereas in the original image, the face is much less obscured.


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    Abigail's first name was left off of the title of this thread.

    Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #22

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    A Papa John's Pizza franchisee is hosting a fundraiser Tuesday to raise money two slain Delphi teenagers.

    Enthusiam Foods, which owns Papa John's franchises in several Indiana cities, including Frankfort, will donate 100 percent of proceeds from pizzas sold during a fundraiser at Delphi Community Middle School, 401 Armory Road.

    The fundraiser will take place from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m.
    The Frankfort location will provide pizzas and transport them to Delphi in a trailer, according to David Ayers, a spokesperson for the franchisee.

    Proceeds will be donated to a growing reward fund established after the deaths of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams.

    http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2...iser/98814454/

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    First time poster regarding this case.

    Surely somebody out there recognises this man. I don't imagine he has too many jackets, like the average person. Surely the set up of the navy jacket and brown hoodie underneath has been used before. He MUST be on CCTV somewhere, he MUST have said spoken to someone that morning or come into contact with someone somewhere.

    Someone knows straight off the bat who this guy is.

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    Videos:
    from WS member member pzkcmo: https://youtu.be/SapOh3AekeA

    WS-Independen Feed's video re-creation possibilities: https://youtu.be/umWDK8UrpO0

    Gray Hughes re-creation vid (he has more than one): https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=AS24hYv_X8Q

    reporter Inside Edition on the bridge: http://www.insideedition.com/headlin...rd-reaches-50g



    A woman and her husband walked across the bridge, taking video, 4 parts:
    walking across bridge:
    https://youtu.be/NJopmUgnMAc (part 1)
    https://youtu.be/N6qXGsksj-o (part 1.5)
    https://youtu.be/XzMvbfkhVlw (part 2)
    https://youtu.be/yQCv3TeNayk (part 3)
    Near end of Part 1 and in Part 2 you can see the roadway being discussed now
    At beginning of Part 3 is the crime tape

    not a video, but trails and map of area
    http://www.cityofdelphi.org/index.ph...d=5&Itemid=135

    video of bridges, Delphi's Monon High at end. https://youtu.be/mEKbqb_szEU

    A walk across Deer Creek Bridge https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=edK8DJVW890

    BrainScratch video of possible crime area: https://youtu.be/oJ1XaHIFwRs

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