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  1. #961
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllinoisMissing View Post
    Check out @Jhelmuth's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Jhelmuth/status/...239224837?s=09

    Per tweet, Liz Anderson says case is closed.

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    He should check his spelling. Still not buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmybecsloveme View Post
    I'm amazed at all of this. This makes NO SENSE at all...

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    I agree, very weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spbtlkina View Post
    How steep was this ramp? How long was it? If it was short and/or steep then why didn't the airbag deploy? Boat ramp are designed to drive down into. It doesn't just drop off at the end of the ramp - at least not around here. She should have had time to get out almost immediately. Unless she was injured. Which brings me back to why didn't the air bag deploy?
    At first I didn't see an airbag either but after watching the video again I do believe I saw the passenger side airbag

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    Most important tweet, IMO (unless you were driving on the ice in KC around this time, you cannot fully appreciate how dangerous it was):



    Josh Helmuth‏ @Jhelmuth


    @41actionnews meteorologist also confirmed w/me that the am hours of Jan 15 were icy and roads could have been very slick
    6:28 PM Mar 12, 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    He should check his spelling. Still not buying it.
    I have a sad feeling we are never going to learn anything more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n_6CC View Post
    Our PD vehicles were upgraded about 5 years ago to have the GPS integrated into vehicle. It depends on how old the departments radio's and equipment are. They had dashcam at illegal lane change made by Toni, it would be recorded. But, if he did not call it in, or flip the lights there is a chance that moment may not be retrievable by now as it has been such a long period of time. I do not know anyone at that department to verify equipment but I do have a good friend in Lenexa at PD I can ask. The Police department does not have to release dashcam video and won't from what Other officers at different PD's have said. My gut has always said that this had to do with the people (dealer) she was supposed to meet up with. I really feel like your CI scenario or her meet up went sideways somehow. If this officer is / was a suspect at all, they would have another agency take over the investigation and he would have been placed on admin leave during this investigation. It would have been all over the news. I'm still not completely disregarding this theory by any means, just stating what would have happened if he were in question at all by dept. Also, I would think if they have dashcam they would have very up to date equipment in their vehicles. I haven't seen their equipment, that is an assumption based upon dashcam, and area. Thx


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    Thank you for saying this. I don't know who originally brought up the CI/Snitch angle, and I remember being skeptical at first, but then after researching thought it fit in more ways than anything... including an accident. Mostly because of all the sketchiness by LE and everyone around the case. It felt to me as if everyone was being deceptive and they all had different motives for that possibly

    I think it's horrible if dashcam footage is not something that sticks around for at least 6 months. I agree that there should be a good reason to view it, but imo, this is the exact type of situation where it would seem to be useful to dispel rumors etc. thus... I believe there is deception at play.

    So am I correct that with the GPS integrated vehicle, there would be record of their whereabouts at any given time during their shift? Do you know how detailed the data is and how long that is stored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    Boat ramps are designed to BACK a boat down off a trailer. Just saying...
    I'm pretty sure my intent was clear, but thanks for being snarky. ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbison View Post
    Most important tweet, IMO (unless you were driving on the ice in KC around this time, you cannot fully appreciate how dangerous it was):



    Josh Helmuth‏ @Jhelmuth


    @41actionnews meteorologist also confirmed w/me that the am hours of Jan 15 were icy and roads could have been very slick
    6:28 PM Mar 12, 2017
    I was driving at the same time, in the Northland of KC. The bridges weren't even icy. That's why I find this accident difficult to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spbtlkina View Post
    I'm pretty sure my intent was clear, but thanks for being snarky. ��
    Not snarky at all, just explaining how boat ramps are designed for use
    Last edited by BunnyHop; 03-12-2017 at 08:16 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Unless she there was enough impact to injure her (and thus deploy the airbag), I just don't understand how she didn't have time to get out of the car. Regardless of whether she went in front or back end first. The car didn't sink in 10 seconds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mbison View Post
    Most important tweet, IMO (unless you were driving on the ice in KC around this time, you cannot fully appreciate how dangerous it was):



    Josh Helmuth‏ @Jhelmuth




    @41actionnews meteorologist also confirmed w/me that the am hours of Jan 15 were icy and roads could have been very slick
    6:28 PM Mar 12, 2017

    I can attest to that one as I was out that night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alicianclary View Post
    I was driving at the same time, in the Northland of KC. The bridges weren't even icy. That's why I find this accident difficult to believe.

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    you were driving at 5 am? Were the areas you drove through salted? I wasn't there that week but I remember a few other proximate weekends where the roads were a deathtrap with crashes all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alicianclary View Post
    I was driving at the same time, in the Northland of KC. The bridges weren't even icy. That's why I find this accident difficult to believe.

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    Thanks, IIRC the weather report was forecasting ice. I'm sure it varies from place to place. We're expecting a Nor'easter tomorrow night. I won't drive in that.

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    Drugs could have been her demise. She may have taken something that messed with her sense of direction and thought process. She could have been extremely tired, met someone and just messed up.

    I don't think the answers to any of our questions will ever be answered .


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    Quote Originally Posted by mbison View Post
    you were driving at 5 am? Were the areas you drove through salted? I wasn't there that week but I remember a few other proximate weekends where the roads were a deathtrap with crashes all over the place.
    Yes, I drive every morning between 5-6:30 picking up my husband. I was on unsalted and salted roads. I remember this because it was supposed to be really bad and it was fine...

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