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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #25

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    Dear Websleuths Members,

    Please DO NOT bring in family members of the victim's and suggest they might have had something to do with the crime. As of right now, there is ZERO evidence to suggest this is the case.

    People, please think about what Abby and Liberty's loved ones are going through right now.

    They lost their two angels to murder and now they read on the Internet people are ripping their lives apart.

    Same thing with any random person you happen to bring up. These people do not deserve to have their lives spread out and accusations made against them based on a theory with nothing to back it up.

    I know it's frustrating when you go on other sites and they are talking about EVERYTHING but we just do not work that way on Websleuths.

    You are anonymous behind your computer screen. Doesn't hurt you if you post something that's not true about a grieving family member. You step away from your computer and all is well. Meanwhile, your words are like burning hot knives in people's hearts.

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    Ask yourself the following; Would you stand face to face with the person you are accusing, tell them your theory and tell them your real name?

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    MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trai
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    Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at High Bridge, just east of Delphi.


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
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    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

    SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

    RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

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    Hi Everyone,

    In case you haven't seen the videos made by our member "grayhuze" here they are all in one place.

    I would highly recommend you watch these videos if you haven't already.

    You get the full sense of how it must have been for Abby and Libby in addition to helping you understand the crime scene.

    Video # 1

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    Hoping that LE will make use of PARABON SNAPSHOT - the DNA Software that can build a more detailed facial composite from the killer's DNA (assumption made here regarding LE having his DNA).

    It's absolutely fascinating, cutting edge technology.

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    While searching for a certain video, I found this one . In it, the reporter says there were searchers looking for the girls near the water. I thought they didn't search near the water until the morning of the 14th.

    https://youtu.be/Tfi2WI9fo5o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hoping that LE will make use of PARABON SNAPSHOT - the DNA Software that can build a more detailed facial composite from the killer's DNA (assumption made here regarding LE having his DNA).

    It's absolutely fascinating, cutting edge technology.

    WG



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    I wonder what data can be retrieved from cell phone signal towers.

    If they can provide a list of devices in the area?...


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    I'm disappointed that ABC National News did not play the voice clip.. and neither did the local ABC station WRTV6!

    Plus they only showed the photo for a second.

    Come on ABC you can do better than that.


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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, &amp; Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #25

    Libby and Abby and their story (and a piece from the PC with Libby's grandfather) were on our local CBS Channel 4 at 5pm tonight in Denver. I can't find a link on the website yet, but I'm glad to see today's news is getting them some more coverage.

    I'm sorry if this shows up as a reply on someone elses post - I've never tried to start a new post (not a reply) before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hoping that LE will make use of PARABON SNAPSHOT - the DNA Software that can build a more detailed facial composite from the killer's DNA (assumption made here regarding LE having his DNA).

    It's absolutely fascinating, cutting edge technology.

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    Thank you for this! Yes absolutely fascinating. At the link you provided are two predictions shown where the person has been found and their actual photo is beside the prediction sketch. It's pretty close!

    As for the ongoing question whether or not LE have the dna of Abby's and Libby's murderer - is it at all likely that he would not have left some? Even simply touching something can leave dna right?

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    Holy macaroni thread 25!!!!!
    It will be a month in a few days.😔

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