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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #26

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    Dear Websleuths Members,

    Please DO NOT bring in family members of the victim's and suggest they might have had something to do with the crime. As of right now, there is ZERO evidence to suggest this is the case.

    People, please think about what Abby and Liberty's loved ones are going through right now.

    They lost their two angels to murder and now they read on the Internet people are ripping their lives apart.

    Same thing with any random person you happen to bring up. These people do not deserve to have their lives spread out and accusations made against them based on a theory with nothing to back it up.

    I know it's frustrating when you go on other sites and they are talking about EVERYTHING but we just do not work that way on Websleuths.

    You are anonymous behind your computer screen. Doesn't hurt you if you post something that's not true about a grieving family member. You step away from your computer and all is well. Meanwhile, your words are like burning hot knives in people's hearts.

    Please take a moment to read our rules
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    If you have any questions please email websleuthscomments@gmail.com or send a private message.

    Ask yourself the following; Would you stand face to face with the person you are accusing, tell them your theory and tell them your real name?

    Even with our tight and well thought out rules Websleuths is able to do amazing sleuthing.

    Thank you for caring about Abby and Liberty.

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    MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trai
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    Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at High Bridge, just east of Delphi.


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

    ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
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    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

    Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

    SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

    RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

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    Hi Everyone,

    In case you haven't seen the videos made by our member "grayhuze" here they are all in one place.

    I would highly recommend you watch these videos if you haven't already.

    You get the full sense of how it must have been for Abby and Libby in addition to helping you understand the crime scene.

    Video # 1

    Video # 2 -

    Video # 3


    Thank you grayhuze for taking the time to help Abby and Libby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibaboo View Post
    Has anyone been able to go down W 300 N on google streetview?

    I was able to go down there before because I did, to double check where the girls were dropped off and the entry to the trail (opposite the house along there)

    I can't now, I've tried but the little dude won't go there anymore
    Interesting. I can't access it either (directly or from other roads). We noticed something similar on the thread for the Chattanooga school bus crash which killed six children.

    When the crash first happened we could use the "little man" to view Talley Road directly. But after a few days it could not be dropped there, but could be moved into the area from other roads.

    I just checked and Talley Road can again be dropped on directly. We naturally suspected it was done by Google Maps because of the awful tragedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeRoad View Post
    Thank you very much for this. As a new person here, this is extremely helpful to me. I'll go study now.
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    Wondergirl[/B];13218850]For anyone interested in reading about the trials and tribulations of LE while on the hunt for child murderer, this is a fascinating account of the heinous murders of the Rogers Family - a mother and her 2 teenage daughters.

    It is well worth the read, for any Websleuther.

    It gives the perspective from all angles - the family, and what LE had to go through with the mass amount of tips, and how LE used the media to further the case and the tips.


    Angels & Demons

    On June 4, 1989, the bodies of Jo, Michelle and Christe were found floating in Tampa Bay. This is the story of the murders, their aftermath, and the handful of people who kept faith amid the unthinkable.




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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #26

    The videos are the best thing I have seen or heard in a month...

    Congrats to who made them...

    You are the only light I have seen so far they are wonderful...

    Grayhuze thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVWoman View Post
    Oh my heaven...got totally wrapped up In This report (story) between learning the facts and crying, I have faith they will find this man now !

    A very, very good read !


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    May this thread the one to capture the murderer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Hope4 View Post
    May this thread the one to capture the murderer!

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    There has been an arrest that *could* be related to this case.

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    Wow thanks Wondergirl. I just finished reading the article your posted. I can't stop crying. Thank you for sharing. Praying for Abby and Libby that their justice is on its way.


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    Just 2 ideas I haven't come across so far... MOO of course, and my first WS post so forgive if this has already been discussed and I missed it.

    First, in a 2 perp scenario, could one have hidden at the end under the bridge/trellis while BG drove the girls that direction. They may have thought they were fleeing to safety, only to have a second creep come up behind.

    Second, if BG was working alone, perhaps he pushed one of the girls off the platform or rushed her and she fell off. Then he's able to focus on the other. Even get her to go "down the hill" to see if her friend is okay.

    Just a couple of theories...can't get these girls off my mind. So heartbreaking.

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