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https://www.suffolk.police.uk/sites/suffolk/files/page/downloads/corriemckeague-missing-poster.pdf


Fears growing for missing RAF serviceman who vanished after night out

28 September 2016

Concerns were growing today for the safety of a young military [service]man who vanished after a night out and may have tried to walk eight miles back to his base.

[...]

Camera operators saw him getting up and walking off - but he failed to return to Honington, the headquarters of the RAF Force Protection who guard UK military installations around the world.

Despite an appeal to motorists, villagers along the serviceman’s route and a search by the Suffolk police helicopter there has been no trace of him.

Corrie is described as white, 5ft 10ins tall, medium build, with short light brown hair. He was wearing a light-pink polo shirt and white jeans when last seen.



Police looking for Corrie McKeague will start searching landfill site this week for missing airman


6 March 2017

A search of a landfill site in Cambridgeshire will start this week as police look for RAF Honington’s Corrie McKeague, following a two-week delay.

[...]

Since a signal from Corrie’s mobile phone was detecting travelling along the same route as a bin lorry shortly after he was last seen at 3.24am, police have been aware of the possibility Corrie could be at the landfill site.

“The search is likely to take six to 10 weeks to complete, although this will obviously depend on daily progress on the site,” said detective superintendent Katie Elliott.


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Tricia / Greater Than - it might be an idea to start a separate thread about the documentary, I can link it into the UK index so more members see it and then Bob Fletcher can ask away!!

In other news, I am really hoping thread #21 is "The One Where Corrie Was Found".
 
Tricia / Greater Than - it might be an idea to start a separate thread about the documentary, I can link it into the UK index so more members see it and then Bob Fletcher can ask away!!

In other news, I am really hoping thread #21 is "The One Where Corrie Was Found".

That is a great idea. I'll start it now.
 
In the last thread it was said that the searchers are at the point in the landfill of finding things from the day when Corrie disappeared. I don't know how much of a jumble it is there, how mixed up the rubbish is, and how many trucks from various places tipped there in those few days, but I am thinking that if they send a few boxes of stuff to the lab each day and then it has to be tested for connection to Corrie, then the next week or two would be prime for a notification that they have found something?

How much would they wait to find before issuing a notice? Would they wait until they had a full skeleton or would they inform us if just a few bones had been found?
 
I don't think anything would be made public until there was something definite. But if they do find any body part that is confirmed to be his, then I don't think they would delay announcing it as it would confirm his death.
 
I don't think anything would be made public until there was something definite. But if they do find any body part that is confirmed to be his, then I don't think they would delay announcing it as it would confirm his death.

I've seen where the police announce they've found a body, they are awaiting further tests, and the family has been informed.

I can't think of any particular cases to reference here, but this happens when they are searching a specific area where they are expecting to find something, and also presumably if the body/clothing is recognisible (I mean child rather than adult, say). And if there is interest from the media, it means the relatives have a heads-up when there has been a noticeable change to the work being carried out (eg a tent being erected over a find) rather than reading press speculation or being door-stepped before a positive ID.

Heaven forbid they find anything other than C's remains in landfill.
 
Yes, by "something definite" I meant something like bones confirmed to be human rather than animal, that sort of thing.

I wonder if his phone will turn up. I still think the phone could have ended up in the bin without him being in it himself, but of course the police may have more evidence that they haven't disclosed.
 
In the last thread it was said that the searchers are at the point in the landfill of finding things from the day when Corrie disappeared. I don't know how much of a jumble it is there, how mixed up the rubbish is, and how many trucks from various places tipped there in those few days, but I am thinking that if they send a few boxes of stuff to the lab each day and then it has to be tested for connection to Corrie, then the next week or two would be prime for a notification that they have found something?

How much would they wait to find before issuing a notice? Would they wait until they had a full skeleton or would they inform us if just a few bones had been found?
I think if they find any bones they think may be human, they would be able to check that pretty quickly whether they are or not. If they are confirmed as human then the next stage would probably be dna unless there are clothes etc that would help to determine these things. There is also the possibility any human remains may not be C. JMO
 
I think if they find any bones they think may be human, they would be able to check that pretty quickly whether they are or not.

A pathologist or forensic anthropologist would be able to say definitely more or less on the spot if they were human or not.
 
I think if they find any bones they think may be human, they would be able to check that pretty quickly whether they are or not. If they are confirmed as human then the next stage would probably be dna unless there are clothes etc that would help to determine these things. There is also the possibility any human remains may not be C. JMO
I don't think clothes come in to it as clothes can be worn by someone else - just reread properly that is what you were saying in a different way. sorry.
 
I don't think clothes come in to it as clothes can be worn by someone else - just reread properly that is what you were saying in a different way. sorry.
My post was a bit aris about face because if you had bones/skeleton with clothes on it then it is likely not animal bones anyway, so no worries.
 
A pathologist or forensic anthropologist would be able to say definitely more or less on the spot if they were human or not.
Yeah I agree. I was going to add in my original post that they may even have some in the team of people at the landfill.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/suffolk

Corrie Mckeague: Landfill site search may take longer than original estimate

20 Apr
The mother of missing serviceman Corrie Mckeague says it may take police longer than the original estimation of 10 weeks to complete the search of a landfill site near Cambridge.

Writing on the "Find Corrie" Facebook page, Nicola Urquhart says: "We are in the 7th week now and we are already aware the police may require an extra week."

Suffolk Police say they review what's happening at the landfill site on a regular basis and that no end date for the search has been set.
 
@casey. You posted shortly before the previous thread closed asking why we thought the family didn't want to consider C had disappeared voluntarily and I do also wonder about this. Why do you (and others) think they have not dwelt on that possibility very much?
My own view is they have put such weight on the cctv and phone evidence that they have convinced themselves. Initially, they were adamant there was third party involvement but they do not seem to think that anymore. I rang in a tip once early on to both LE and N ( I personally spoke to N herself) and all she really seemed fixated on was "how did he get out of the horseshoe" so that was consuming her IMO. Now with the LF solution, that has been answered, though not proved yet by any means so N is now fixed on that till the end of the search AFAICS.
Eta. Since reading more about cell phones, their location pings do not seem to be an exact science. They can be miles out. E.g. LE do not seem to even know what road the phone took between BSE and BM.
 
@casey. You posted shortly before the previous thread closed asking why we thought the family didn't want to consider C had disappeared voluntarily and I do also wonder about this. Why do you (and others) think they have not dwelt on that possibility very much?
My own view is they have put such weight on the cctv and phone evidence that they have convinced themselves. Initially, they were adamant there was third party involvement but they do not seem to think that anymore. I rang in a tip once early on to both LE and N ( I personally spoke to N herself) and all she really seemed fixated on was "how did he get out of the horseshoe" so that was consuming her IMO. Now with the LF solution, that has been answered, though not proved yet by any means so N is now fixed on that till the end of the search AFAICS.

That's an interesting point. I always assumed that there was evidence that we didn't know about to prove he didn't just disappear by himself. But as the case has dragged on, it's hard to know exactly what evidence there was/is, and what LE are really thinking, as there have been so many twists and turns.

And naively I like to think if he had disappeared himself, there would have been some evidence/trace by now
 
@casey. You posted shortly before the previous thread closed asking why we thought the family didn't want to consider C had disappeared voluntarily and I do also wonder about this. Why do you (and others) think they have not dwelt on that possibility very much?
My own view is they have put such weight on the cctv and phone evidence that they have convinced themselves. Initially, they were adamant there was third party involvement but they do not seem to think that anymore. I rang in a tip once early on to both LE and N ( I personally spoke to N herself) and all she really seemed fixated on was "how did he get out of the horseshoe" so that was consuming her IMO. Now with the LF solution, that has been answered, though not proved yet by any means so N is now fixed on that till the end of the search AFAICS.
Eta. Since reading more about cell phones, their location pings do not seem to be an exact science. They can be miles out. E.g. LE do not seem to even know what road the phone took between BSE and BM.

Whilst early on UT appealed for C to come home if he had done something that needed sorting out (can't remember the exact wording), I assumed the family didn't want to think that C had voluntarily disappeared because of the emotional, rather than the practical, issues. Potentially, it meant C had problems he couldn't discuss with them and he was willing to cut off contact with them for a period of time. Parents don't want to consider that their son or daughter can't talk to them or feel they have failed them somehow.

Also, as others have said, close family, serviceman (grand)son & brother missing: what engages the public more: third party involvement or voluntary disappearance?
 
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