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12-15-2005, 05:43 PM #1Registered User
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4 Vikings players charged in boat case
Four Minnesota Vikings, including quarterback Daunte Culpepper, were charged today with misdemeanors alleging lewd or indecent conduct in connection with a party on Lake Minnetonka in October.
The other players charged were tackle Bryant McKinnie, running back Moe Williams and cornerback Fred Smoot, who was one of the organizers of the annual party put on by a first-year player from the team.
On Wednesday, U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger confirmed no players would face federal charges. Crew members from Al & Alma's Supper Club and Charter Cruises said women who were paid to come to Minnesota from other states for the party were seen having sex with players.
All four players were charged with one count of indecent conduct, one count of disorderly conduct and one count of lewd and lascivious conduct. All charges are misdemeanors.
''There was no shortage of inappropriate behavior on both boats,'' said Hennepin County Sheriff Patrick McGowan in talking about the charges. He said that the investigation identified 30 Vikings among the approximately 90 people aboard the two boats.
Coach Mike Tice said, "We've been down this road with other players before. I'll just let you know, as it pertains to any punishment ... there is, according to NFL rules and union contracts, there is a large difference between allegations and charges and convictions. Until at any point there is a conviction of any type, I have no action to take and nothing to say."
The complaints gave this account of the allegations:
Culpepper got a lap dance from an unidentified, naked female in the bar area of a boat and that he placed his hands on the naked buttocks of the dancer.
Williams, in an area near the boat's downstairs bathrooms, received a lap dance from a bare-breasted dancer and touched her breast.
Smoot was accused of using a sex toy on two women in the presence of numerous guests.
Witnesses reported that they saw McKinnie "pick up a naked woman, place her on the bar in the lounge area, and commence to perform oral sex on the woman." At a different time in the evening, the witnesses said they saw "Mr. McKinnie along with three other unidentified males receiving oral sex from four women while the men were seated in deck chairs on the boat."
The maximum penalty on each charges is 90 days in jail or a $1,000 fine. Court appearances were set for the players on Jan. 5.
''None of the Vikings have chosen to talk to us,'' McGowan said.
Smoot said today, "I'm not talking about nothing."
Peter Wold, who represents another Vikings player who isn't charged, said his investigation found "nothing pointing to any of these four."
"The Vikings charged in the case are among the most recognizable players on the team and they also are among the highest paid," Wold said. "This is a shakedown."
McGowan said the case would have been investigated even if it had not involved the high-profile Minnesota Vikings, had someone brought a similar complaint. Then he asked the assembled media a question:
''If this didn't involve the players that it did, would you all be standing here today?'' McGowan asked.
Prosecutor Steve Tallen received a file from the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office about two weeks ago. Employees of the boat company identified 17 players among the approximately 90 guests on the two boats chartered for the Oct. 6 party.
Stephen Doyle, the attorney representing Al & Alma's, said sex acts were performed in front of employees, and many of the employees were fearful for their safety. The boat captains decided to end the cruise early and turn around because of the activities.
Last month, Vikings officials questioned the accuracy of Doyle's portrayal about what happened on the boats and they have been critical of stories about the party done by local media.
An exotic dancer from Atlanta who said she was on one of the boats said in an interview with the Star Tribune that she saw two incidents of sexual activity on her boat, but not as much as has been described in some news accounts. The woman, who spoke to the newspaper on the condition that her name not be published, said she was paid $500 to attend a party thrown by first-year Vikings players.
On the boat, the woman said, she saw a couple who appeared to have just finished having sex in a bathroom and another couple on the upper deck who were undressed and engaged in intercourse.
She said that she didn't know if any Vikings were involved and that it was her understanding that an invitation to the party didn't include an expectation to have sex. At least a dozen other exotic dancers from Atlanta attended the party, she said, but she didn't know if they were paid.
"I wasn't flown up to be a prostitute," she said during an interview in Atlanta.
Boat employees of Al & Alma's Supper Club and Charter Cruises had identified 17 Vikings players as being on the boats, but several have publicly denied that they were on board. Some players on the list allegedly participated in sex acts. The list also includes players who apologized for the behavior of some teammates and who tried to protect the charter boat employees.
Attorney Doyle has said cornerback Fred Smoot was one of the organizers, but Smoot has repeatedly denied it and has threatened legal action.
Others aboard the boats who engaged in conduct similar to those charged could not be identified, McGowan said.
12-16-2005, 12:46 AM #2
What role models.
12-16-2005, 12:55 AM #3Registered User
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Lovely, isn't it?
Here's a thread showing more details of what happened on the boat:
12-16-2005, 02:34 AM #4Former Member
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12-16-2005, 05:24 AM #5
Wives, girlfriends? Hello? Were any of them on board?
Well a boat full of paid strippers is the same things as a boat full of Hoes.
And don't tell me they're "dancers". I've known a few "strippers" in my time and one was a good friend. They don't try to pull that BS with me. They get paid to have sex acts at private parties. In the clubs, it's all about the rules and the body guards. At private parties, like bachelor parties, it's anything goes and get paid a lot of money. Whether it's strap ons, oral sex or whatever, these parties get totally out of control.
Sex toys etc? You bet.
No surprise, but it's a shame that women put up with this crap.
Mike Tice used to be a tight end for the Seahawks, if I remember correctly, and I've met him several times when the team did summer training at EWU. He seemed to me like a player and womanizer. I'm not a harsh feminist, but dudes like this need to be taken down a notch or two. They are WAY TOO UGLY to make that much money.__________________
Disclaimer: I have a JD, but I am not licensed to practice. Therefore, do not interpret anything contained in my posts as legal advice - they are my personal opinion only.
12-16-2005, 11:00 AM #6Registered User
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If these men are being charged I want to know if any of the women are being charged as well. Isn't prostitution still illegal? If all were willing participants why are only the men being charged? Their behavior is disgusting but is it only because they are professional athletes that they are being charged with a crime? If all were not willing participants then there would be rape charges - which there aren't. Why are only the men being charged with lewd and indecent conduct?
Last edited by miimaa; 12-16-2005 at 03:54 PM.
12-16-2005, 12:58 PM #7
Wow, a $1000.00 fine for each offense. That means that each of these four individuals is going to have to cough up 2-$3000, for these outlandish acts. What a harsh financial assessment against these financially destitute players. I realize that the NFL would prefer that all of their players act like choir boys because they are supposed to be role models, but let's get real--most of the guys who play football didn't get their positions because they practiced abstinence, with their one, and only. What would Wilt think of these wimps. Does anyone think this is going to put a dent in the number of groupies that follow professional sports teams around, or follow the rock groups. Admittedly, a little discretion may have been a good idea, but we're still dealing with the world's oldest profession, and it seems to follow the money trail.
12-19-2005, 08:27 PM #8Registered User
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I'm anxoius to see what the owner ziggi does...the Mn Vikings got rid of Randy Moss for his outlandish acts & kept just as bad as he was.
I think they are a disgrace as role models. Daunte says he never did anything. So we'll see when they go to court. But like everything they do it will be kept out of the view of the public.
12-19-2005, 09:07 PM #9Former Member
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This thread is interesting for me. My uncle died yesterday at 5:20 CST. He was a Green Bay Packer. Retired. He was an early forerunner for these acts. He was despicable to his family. He beat his wife, caused his daughter to be born premature at 1.5 pounds with hearing and seeing deficiencies.And the ultimate, slow learning.He disavowed his son because he wasn't a football player or even that bright. His son eventually overdosed and his ashes are in the family vault.He used his celebrity to focus on Las Vegas. Las Vegas sent him cigarette boats. His lawyer said he spent 3 million dollars on gambling. He molested his granddaughter among others.He was a pedophile and chased young girls way into his dementia. He squandered every dime, every emotion and left a path of destruction.
So, when people see me get on the bandwagon against generational abuse I know where I am coming from
12-19-2005, 10:03 PM #10Registered User
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$1000 is nothing to these pigs. Besides getting kicked off the team, I hope their wives divorce them and take them to the cleaners.
Nice role models, and people wonder why the world is so messed up. What ever happened to morals?