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    Some weird freakin' skull image (we just haven't found a comparable image elsewhere yet) scrunched up near the neckline of his (sweat)shirt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ember123 View Post
    Some weird freakin' skull image (we just haven't found a comparable image elsewhere yet) scrunched up near the neckline of his (sweat)shirt?
    I'd say yes but It just seems to curve back in too soon for a skull don't you think? I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry2326 View Post
    Thanks so much to both of you! This crime is under my skin. Anything I can do to help solve it, I will. From the looks of the threads, I might be late with my version of the picture. But thought I would post it anyway. The letters are a bit different than the ones identified in the other pic. Let me know if you are interested in any other adjustments to this pic.
    I played around with this white thing and letters on top with GIMP. Therefore I know there seems always another word to be read if at all there is something to decipher. When I had altered least then I got to read "Libbi" as the first word. When I had altered more "Libbi" changed into words which had nothing to do with "Libbi". Same with the second word.

    I gave up and will curiously see what others here are able to obtain.
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    2/2015 Murdered woman (24) in Eustis/FL - "This wasn't your typical shooting or stabbing. You don't see things like this, especially in a smaller community like we have here…," Franquiz said.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2017-70/page61
    2/2017 Murdered girls Abby and Libby in Delphi/IN - Police have not released how Abby and Libby died, but say the teens' immediate family members know the answer.

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    MistyWaters posted this question to me on the main thread:

    Originally Posted by MistyWaters
    -respectfully snipped by me- Do you think the still frame has been cropped by LE, specifically the outer areas around the BG image? It seems to me it has. I managed to find your experiment photos and at 70 feet, your daughter filled, say 5% of the frame and the other 95% was everything around her. If you had zoomed the entire still frame, not cropping the area around her, I'm guessing your close up photo would be gigantic and so in your example you also cropped the outer areas in attempting to add clarity to her image?
    I started with the entire shot as taken by the phone at the 70 foot mark. I then reduced and resized BG's photo to match my daughter's size comparitively to place him at the 70 foot mark also.

    So, to answer Misty's question: all of the photo outside the red square represents what LE would have cropped out to get the close-up of BG that we have now, imo, of course.


    Notice how blurry my still grab is compared to LE's version. I am still trying to figure out how they acheived the clarity they did.
    Love these projects! Thanks Misty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSight View Post
    MistyWaters posted this question to me on the main thread:



    I started with the entire shot as taken by the phone at the 70 foot mark. I then reduced and resized BG's photo to match my daughter's size comparitively to place him at the 70 foot mark also.

    So, to answer Misty's question: all of the photo outside the red square represents what LE would have cropped out to get the close-up of BG that we have now, imo, of course.

    Notice how blurry my still grab is compared to LE's version. I am still trying to figure out how they acheived the clarity they did.
    Love these projects! Thanks Misty.
    Great work many thanks. I am not clever at things like this but from a different case on this forum would one of those anti blur apps work. Forgotten what it's called now. You have probably already done it and if tools like that are freely available on the web then I suspect LE have all singing all dancing anti blur tools.

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    Edited to add I have remembered what the app/software was called now having looked at previous posts on this thread.
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    I can see the reflection of a person and I have a really dumb question. If you are editing on line or on your computer how on earth does your reflection superimpose onto or merge with the photograph you are working on? sorry for the daft question. I am just trying to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    I can see the reflection of a person and I have a really dumb question. If you are editing on line or on your computer how on earth does your reflection superimpose onto or merge with the photograph you are working on? sorry for the daft question. I am just trying to understand.
    Hi Reacher, first thanks for the info re: antiblur tools. I am a complete novice and have never heard of that. I am excited to check that out.

    Second, are you referring to the pics with arrows up thread or my pics with BG two posts up?

    If you are talking of the pics with the arrows, those were stills taken from youtube videos by Randy Gravitt who is filming images and videos on his monitor and so you can see his refelction in the stills I grabbed. I never even noticed until another member pointed it out. Not a very good sleuther, am I?

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    I was thinking that perhaps it was a cloth bag with cloth handles and not a plastic grocery bag. As I looked at different bags and got into game carrying bags. I didn't realize you could get a bag big enough for an elk. They come all rolled up and maybe this type of bag or similar is a possibility. It certainly could be used to drag a body around. That had never occurred to me before. Perhaps hunters carry them all the time to protect and move their game around. JMO Just another idea.

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    Going out on a limb here but pretty sure of my findings. I replaced my daughter as the model with the photo of BG resized to replicate how he might have appeared on that bridge when the girls began filming and to give the best feel for how far away BG is at @70 feet.



    What made Libby start filming? He does not appear to be interacting with them in any way at this point. He is not even looking at them. He does not look particularly menacing. And, at this point you cannot see anything he might be hiding that would scare you.At @ the 70 foot mark, BG is very close. If the girls were still on that bridge when Libby began filming, there was no time to do much of anything.

    In our experiment I was shocked at how close it felt and how I could see for the first time, that except for trying to make a run for it, they were doomed. If he made his intentions known in the next ten feet, those girls had no time. At 70 feet there was no calling 911 or mom, texting, nothing. Running or filming seemed like the only options that we could see.
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    You're actually looking at a video still of the photo on the guy's computer monitor. He makes youtube videos and sometimes shoots his screen to show pictures, so you can see all kinds of reflections.

    EDIt: I see Webby beat me to it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reacher View Post
    I can see the reflection of a person and I have a really dumb question. If you are editing on line or on your computer how on earth does your reflection superimpose onto or merge with the photograph you are working on? sorry for the daft question. I am just trying to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSight View Post
    Going out on a limb here but pretty sure of my findings. I replaced my daughter as the model with the photo of BG resized to replicate how he might have appeared on that bridge when the girls began filming and to give the best feel for how far away BG is at @70 feet.



    What made Libby start filming? He does not appear to be interacting with them in any way at this point. He is not even looking at them. He does not look particularly menacing. And, at this point you cannot see anything he might be hiding that would scare you.At @ the 70 foot mark, BG is very close. If the girls were still on that bridge when Libby began filming, there was no time to do much of anything.

    In our experiment I was shocked at how close it felt and how I could see for the first time, that except for trying to make a run for it, they were doomed. If he made his intentions known in the next ten feet, those girls had no time. At 70 feet there was no calling 911 or mom, texting, nothing. Running or filming seemed like the only options that we could see.

    Wow Thanks for that picture and giving us the feel of 70' and what he would look like to them. I don't think they had a chance to run either.

    Perhaps the girls saw him someplace else like at the start of their hike then they saw him again on the bridge and it got creepy. "Like wasn't he just going off the trail back to his car and now he's here" type of thing? idk

    The picture was at 2:07 of Abby and BG wan't on the bridge as far at they could see (or the camera could see) at that point. 23 minutes later he is there so they must have watched him walk for a bit before Libby turned her camera on him. Maybe he was walking fast? idk

    Also from this distance here's what I see...

    No hat
    No Fannie pack
    His right finger tips in his pocket with his thumb over something straight
    His left hand fully in his pocket
    Wearing a larger round type watch on his right hand
    Full head of hair
    Late 30's to mid 40's
    Wears his jeans too long
    Bulging jacket yet he doesn't seem overweight
    5"9 - 5"11 max
    170-185lbs (I'm bad at this part)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSight View Post
    Going out on a limb here but pretty sure of my findings. I replaced my daughter as the model with the photo of BG resized to replicate how he might have appeared on that bridge when the girls began filming and to give the best feel for how far away BG is at @70 feet.



    What made Libby start filming? He does not appear to be interacting with them in any way at this point. He is not even looking at them. He does not look particularly menacing. And, at this point you cannot see anything he might be hiding that would scare you.At @ the 70 foot mark, BG is very close. If the girls were still on that bridge when Libby began filming, there was no time to do much of anything.

    In our experiment I was shocked at how close it felt and how I could see for the first time, that except for trying to make a run for it, they were doomed. If he made his intentions known in the next ten feet, those girls had no time. At 70 feet there was no calling 911 or mom, texting, nothing. Running or filming seemed like the only options that we could see.
    Thank you for the artistically valuable photo! It gives another look on the Bridge perp re perspective!
    BG will love this photo also but for a different reason: because of the gloriole around him.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...Feb-2015/page3
    2/2015 Murdered woman (24) in Eustis/FL - "This wasn't your typical shooting or stabbing. You don't see things like this, especially in a smaller community like we have here…," Franquiz said.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...2017-70/page61
    2/2017 Murdered girls Abby and Libby in Delphi/IN - Police have not released how Abby and Libby died, but say the teens' immediate family members know the answer.

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    REPOSTING THIS PHOTO for those who have not seen it but are wondering about these issues:

    Something I noticed when trying to recreate the stills from the video. Look at my daughter's feet in this picture. It looks like they are not touching the ground, almost looks photo-shopped. And she has almost no shadow.

    I know that these two issues were topics of great discussion as that is how BG's photos look. I think many were concerned that he may have been photoshopped on the bridge.

    I found the above happened as a result of grabbing a still from the zoomed video, that's all. No photoshopping that I can see. imo, of course.



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    The one thing I have noticed in most of the enhanced closeups is that he does appear to be looking directly at LG. He may not have realized that she was recording him, but he did seem to be showing some interest. I'm guessing that she couldn't see where his eyes were looking from that distance, so I don't think that's what caught her attention and made her start recording, but if they had met up earlier and he was eyeing her up, it might set off a warning for her when he started approaching them on the bridge later. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSight View Post
    H/T to FromGermany for the photo below:


    Regarding the possibility of words on the white loop on BG, I watched another Randy Gravitt video (link below) showing close up shots of BG.

    In this other video (see the first screenshot) you can clearly see that there are words that show through the picture across the photo that repeat.


    In the second screenshot you can see that if you follow the words that you can see across (though they disappear behind the dark blue jacket) they would line up and appear in the exact spot as the area where words are seen in the white loop in the still picture of the face taken from Randy Gravitt's video.



    A shame really because like everyone else, I was really hoping to have a new clue to sleuth.

    Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQTOL8KJ5g
    . Maybe something like these?





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