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    Cultural Anxiety, Not Economic Anxiety Drove White Working-Class Voters to Trump

    Has anyone seen this article? It makes a lot of sense , at least with regard to the family members and friends that I know are Trump supporters.

    http://https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

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    Identified the correct population of the base of Trump voters, but the wrong motives, IMO.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/tr...m-the-suburbs/

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...der-education/

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    I'm trying to absorb it, but it feels gross.

    First read through, the main thing I'm getting is that his voters feel that people who used to be "less than them" (minorities, LBGT, immigrants) have been given rights since the 1950s and now they want to exert some sort of power over minorities in order to feel superior again. Um, yuck.

    If you see people around you that are doing better than you, you should try harder or accept that where you are, is where you are supposed to be. "White uneducated people" should not just marginalize minorities in order to feel better/do better.

    "More than half say discrimination against whites has become just as problematic as discrimination against minorities."

    I'll reread it again in a bit to try and make sure I am understanding this correctly.

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    I think a lot of Trump voters don't want to see liberal policies forced on them that will further send the U.S. on a path of failed socialist states like Venezuela--which, just a short time ago, was held up as a beacon of socialist prosperity and righteousness, and now is just a short distance from civil war.

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    Liberal policies? You mean the equal rights afforded all Americans under the Constitution?

    Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.
    1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    https://usconstitution.net/const.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinallyRegistered View Post
    I'm trying to absorb it, but it feels gross.

    First read through, the main thing I'm getting is that his voters feel that people who used to be "less than them" (minorities, LBGT, immigrants) have been given rights since the 1950s and now they want to exert some sort of power over minorities in order to feel superior again. Um, yuck.

    If you see people around you that are doing better than you, you should try harder or accept that where you are, is where you are supposed to be. "White uneducated people" should not just marginalize minorities in order to feel better/do better.

    "More than half say discrimination against whites has become just as problematic as discrimination against minorities."

    I'll reread it again in a bit to try and make sure I am understanding this correctly.

    Evolution is real; you can't just vote it away.
    Wow......I don't know anyone that feels certain sectors are "less than them".

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    This sentence in particular stood out to me:

    . And nearly half agreed with the statement, “things have changed so much that I often feel like a stranger in my own country.”
    As well as these statements...

    Nearly two-thirds of the white working class say American culture has gotten worse since the 1950s....More than half say discrimination against whites has become just as problematic as discrimination against minorities.
    ... since the 1950s. I see the type of posts the trump-supporters I know make on Facebook and many express a desire for the "good old days" when we could pray in school and didn't have to worry about offending people all the time (because everybody was the same). Unfortunately they don't see the value in diversity...just the loss of a way of life. YMMV

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    Those were the exact same two sentences that stood out to me, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSpeakEasy View Post
    Has anyone seen this article? It makes a lot of sense , at least with regard to the family members and friends that I know are Trump supporters.

    http://https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/
    I agree. So sad to be fearful of others.

    What will make them less fearful? Don't know. I wonder what the reasons are? I imagine some of it is growing up in a home where the person was not valued and was put down by the parents. Another is seeing the news and because they have no contact with anyone but their white friends, it looks scsry.

    A lot of it is fear. They have an inner being that is afraid. They put on a tough exterior, but inside they tremble

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Z View Post
    I think a lot of Trump voters don't want to see liberal policies forced on them that will further send the U.S. on a path of failed socialist states like Venezuela--which, just a short time ago, was held up as a beacon of socialist prosperity and righteousness, and now is just a short distance from civil war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSpeakEasy View Post
    This sentence in particular stood out to me:



    As well as these statements...



    ... since the 1950s. I see the type of posts the trump-supporters I know make on Facebook and many express a desire for the "good old days" when we could pray in school and didn't have to worry about offending people all the time (because everybody was the same). Unfortunately they don't see the value in diversity...just the loss of a way of life. YMMV

    MOO
    Everyone was not the same. Remember those "whites only". At least that kept the "others" away from whites.

    Banks redlined house loans and blacks ended up in their ghetto areas away from the whites. Not allowed in white neighborhoods! NO way!

    Natives? Who knew anything about them. I don't know about the Japanese after they were let out of their internment camps. Were they accepted?

    The problem is that those who need to learn about the racist policies of the US simply are not interested . They will not learn. And they live in denial that they have anything to learn.

    I suppose a lot of black men are scary to white men. They dominate sports with their athletic superiority. They have intelligence. Threatening

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I agree. So sad to be fearful of others.

    What will make them less fearful? Don't know. I wonder what the reasons are? I imagine some of it is growing up in a home where the person was not valued and was put down by the parents. Another is seeing the news and because they have no contact with anyone but their white friends, it looks scsry.

    A lot of it is fear. They have an inner being that is afraid. They put on a tough exterior, but inside they tremble
    That makes sense.

    They grew up being told they were exceptional, then they get in the real world and see they are competing with minorities or marginalized people (you know, those people that were disregarded in the good ol' days). It's an equal playing field out there in 2017, so they want to change the rules in order to benefit.

    So, yes, fear of failure and wanting to control the competition. Rather than being inspired and working harder, they want to bring back outdated manufacturing and disenfranchise a bunch of people with better work ethics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSpeakEasy View Post
    This sentence in particular stood out to me:



    As well as these statements...



    ... since the 1950s. I see the type of posts the trump-supporters I know make on Facebook and many express a desire for the "good old days" when we could pray in school and didn't have to worry about offending people all the time (because everybody was the same). Unfortunately they don't see the value in diversity...just the loss of a way of life. YMMV

    MOO
    Since the 50s = when only white people had rights, is really what they are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATasteOfHoney View Post
    Wow......I don't know anyone that feels certain sectors are "less than them".

    Moo
    Sadly, I know plenty.

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    "We can't let the coloreds get uppity." Quote from my mother.
    I'll see myself out.

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