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    2017.05.15 - Establishment of Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity

    Exempt from copyright, so will post the Executive Order in its entirety:

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    For Immediate Release May 11, 2017
    Presidential Executive Order on the Establishment of Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity

    EXECUTIVE ORDER

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    ESTABLISHMENT OF PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTION INTEGRITY


    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to promote fair and honest Federal elections, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Establishment. The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (Commission) is hereby established.

    Sec. 2. Membership. The Vice President shall chair the Commission, which shall be composed of not more than 15 additional members. The President shall appoint the additional members, who shall include individuals with knowledge and experience in elections, election management, election fraud detection, and voter integrity efforts, and any other individuals with knowledge or experience that the President determines to be of value to the Commission. The Vice President may select a Vice Chair of the Commission from among the members appointed by the President.

    Sec. 3. Mission. The Commission shall, consistent with applicable law, study the registration and voting processes used in Federal elections. The Commission shall be solely advisory and shall submit a report to the President that identifies the following:

    (a) those laws, rules, policies, activities, strategies, and practices that enhance the American people's confidence in the integrity of the voting processes used in Federal elections;

    (b) those laws, rules, policies, activities, strategies, and practices that undermine the American people's confidence in the integrity of the voting processes used in Federal elections; and

    (c) those vulnerabilities in voting systems and practices used for Federal elections that could lead to improper voter registrations and improper voting, including fraudulent voter registrations and fraudulent voting.

    Sec. 4. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

    (a) The term "improper voter registration" means any situation where an individual who does not possess the legal right to vote in a jurisdiction is included as an eligible voter on that jurisdiction's voter list, regardless of the state of mind or intent of such individual

    (b) The term "improper voting" means the act of an individual casting a non-provisional ballot in a jurisdiction in which that individual is ineligible to vote, or the act of an individual casting a ballot in multiple jurisdictions, regardless of the state of mind or intent of that individual.

    (c) The term "fraudulent voter registration" means any situation where an individual knowingly and intentionally takes steps to add ineligible individuals to voter lists.

    (d) The term "fraudulent voting" means the act of casting a non-provisional ballot or multiple ballots with knowledge that casting the ballot or ballots is illegal.

    Sec. 5. Administration. The Commission shall hold public meetings and engage with Federal, State, and local officials, and election law experts, as necessary, to carry out its mission. The Commission shall be informed by, and shall strive to avoid duplicating, the efforts of existing government entities. The Commission shall have staff to provide support for its functions.

    Sec. 6. Termination. The Commission shall terminate 30 days after it submits its report to the President.

    Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) To the extent permitted by law, and subject to the availability of appropriations, the General Services Administration shall provide the Commission with such administrative services, funds, facilities, staff, equipment, and other support services as may be necessary to carry out its mission on a reimbursable basis.

    (b) Relevant executive departments and agencies shall endeavor to cooperate with the Commission.

    (c) Insofar as the Federal Advisory Committee Act, as amended (5 U.S.C. App.) (the "Act"), may apply to the Commission, any functions of the President under that Act, except for those in section 6 of the Act, shall be performed by the Administrator of General Services.

    (d) Members of the Commission shall serve without any additional compensation for their work on the Commission, but shall be allowed travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, to the extent permitted by law for persons serving intermittently in the Government service (5 U.S.C. 5701-5707).

    (e) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

    (f) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

    (g) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

    DONALD J. TRUMP

    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    May 11, 2017.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ntial-advisory

    So far, the commission members are VP Pence, and Kansas SOS Kris Kobach.

    Membership of the commission is still taking shape but so far already includes Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson (R), New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner (D), Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap (D), former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell (R) and the commissioner of the election assistance commission Christie McCormick.

    The commission's report on its findings is expected sometime in 2018, Sanders said.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=47337222

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/u...raud.html?_r=0

    Mr. Trump signed an executive order on Thursday creating the commission, which Ms. Sanders said would have a broad mandate to review policies and practices that affect Americans’ confidence in the integrity of federal elections. Marc E. Lotter, Mr. Pence’s spokesman, said that voter suppression would be among the topics studied by the commission, which he said would take a wide-ranging look at problems at the state and national levels. But the order makes no mention of suppression or voting restrictions, specifying only “improper” or “fraudulent” registration and voting as issues to be explored.

    Democrats and civil rights groups condemned the panel as a taxpayer-funded witch hunt, and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a legal request to the White House for records showing “concrete evidence” of fraudulent voting that would warrant the creation of such a commission.
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    Why Are Democrats Afraid of the Election Integrity Commission?


    Few people believe that Trump’s estimates of illegal votes paint a realistic picture of the issue, and he offered no evidence for his claim. But if he’s wrong, what is the harm of having the first serious national look at just how big the problem might be? If liberal critics are right that voter fraud doesn’t exist save for trace elements, then the commission will come up empty-handed.

    Kobach, who last year became the only state election official with the power to prosecute voter fraud, has already pursued nine cases. In 2015, one Kansas county began offering voter registration at naturalization ceremonies, as Hans A. von Spakovsky and I reported in January at Fox News. Election officials soon discovered about a dozen new Americans who were already registered — and who had voted as non-citizens in multiple elections. Kobach says he suspects there are problems in other states. “There’s never actually been a nationwide effort to look at the scope of voter fraud,” he told CNN’s Erin Burnett in April. “Why wouldn’t we want to collect as much data as possible?”
    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...fraud-evidence

    BBM

    I support the commission's charter. It's long overdue, IMO. Let's take a serious and in-depth look at all aspects of vote and voter integrity, and have a robust public discussion about what they find out.

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    The 1993 National Voter Registration Act:

    (Enacted during the presidency of Bill Clinton, a Democrat)

    https://www.justice.gov/crt/about-na...gistration-act

    After the NVRA became effective, several states failed to take the steps necessary to comply with the law; several of them also challenged the constitutionality of the Act. Beginning within a month of the Act's effective date, the Department responded by filling a series of lawsuits requiring these states to comply with the Act's procedures as well as defending its constitutionality.

    Those states involved in the first round of cases included California, Illinois, Michigan, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, New York, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia. The Department's litigation addressed each state's refusal, often on constitutional grounds, to implement provisions of the Act. As a result of these cases and actions filed by private individuals, the Act's constitutionality was established and states were ordered to comply with the Act's requirements.

    Since that time, the United States has continued to bring litigation to ensure compliance with all facets of the Act.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...on_Act_of_1993

    Full text of the law:

    https://www.justice.gov/crt/title-42...national-voter

    http://www.ncsl.org/research/electio...-accuracy.aspx
    National Conference of State Legislatures

    All states take steps to keep their voter registration rolls accurate and up-to-date. The goal of maintaining an accurate voter list is to prevent ineligible people from voting, prevent anyone from voting twice and, by reducing inaccuracies, speed up the voter check-in process at polling places. How states do this can vary, but most have processes in place for removing records of duplicate records, deceased voters, felons and people who have moved. These checks can be conducted with data from federal agencies, state agencies, or other states.

    Below is a snapshot of some of the ways that states check the accuracy of their voter rolls.
    One of the issues the states have is that the federal government is often "unhelpful" in providing what they need to verify various aspects of voter verification. A good friend of mine was a state SOS, and has spoken of this a number of times as an impediment to keeping accurate records.

    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016...-rolls-it-fair

    Center for Public Integrity

    America scrubs millions from the voter rolls. Is it fair?

    SPARTA, Ga. – The cleansing of America’s voter registration rolls occurs every two years and has become a legal battleground between politicians who say the purges are fair and necessary, and voting rights advocates who contend that they discriminate.

    Voting rights groups repeatedly have challenged states’ registration purges, including those in Ohio, Georgia, Kansas and Iowa, contending that black, Latino, poor, young and homeless voters have been disproportionately purged. In Florida, Kansas, Iowa and Harris County, Texas, courts have ordered elections officials to restore thousands of voters to the registration rolls or to halt purges they found discriminatory.

    The 1993 National Voter Registration Act mandates that state and local elections officers keep voter registration lists accurate by removing the names of people who die, move or fail in successive elections to vote. Voters who’ve been convicted of a felony, ruled mentally incompetent or found to be noncitizens also can be removed. The U.S. Election Assistance Commission reported that 15 million names were scrubbed from the lists nationally in 2014.
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    A snip from the 1993 National Voter Registration Act: (BBM)

    The Act requires States to keep voter registration lists accurate and current, such as identifying persons who have become ineligible due to having died or moved outside the jurisdiction. At the same time, the Act requires list maintenance programs to incorporate specific safeguards, e.g., that they be uniform, non-discriminatory, in compliance with the Voting Rights Act, and not be undertaken within 90 days of a federal election. The removal of voters for non-voting or for having moved can only be done after meeting certain requirements provided in the Act. The Act allows for removal of voters from registration lists when they have been convicted of a disqualifying crime or adjudged mentally incapacitated, where such removals are allowed by state law. The NVRA also provides additional safeguards under which registered voters would be able to vote notwithstanding a change in address in certain circumstances. For example, voters who move within a district or a precinct will retain the right to vote even if they have not re-registered at their new address.
    For States to be in compliance with the law, periodic review and removal of ineligible voters must occur. So, the biggest question is, how do we do this, without requiring voter identification? I don't think it's possible.

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    I can't speak for other states but in Ohio the problem is with illegal immigrants voting using their driver's license or social security card to register.

    Husted, a Republican, testified before Congress in 2015 against President Barack Obama’s executive action to provide access to Social Security numbers and driver’s licenses to non-citizens. He warned that these are the same documents used to register to vote.
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...z6PFpgCxpyn7K/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tillicum View Post
    I can't speak for other states but in Ohio the problem is with illegal immigrants voting using their driver's license or social security card to register.



    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...z6PFpgCxpyn7K/
    From your link-- this is exactly what I was posting about upthread.

    Husted argues that his office should have wider access to federal data, including records of non-citizens who have valid Social Security numbers.
    Some non-citizens register and vote by mistake while others do it to impact the election, he said.

    “I would say in the majority of the cases this is somebody who registers to vote who either didn’t know it was against the law or who is just in this country and trying to participate in democracy. But the bottomline is people who do this are guilty of a felony,” he said.

    False voter registration is a fifth-degree felony and a conviction can affect their ability to remain in the United States and become citizens.
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...z6PFpgCxpyn7K/

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    Too bad this wasn't in place before the Russians got Trump elected.

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    It may be a good thing after this debacle:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...nd-590-K-in-NC

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    I wonder what would happen to a citizen who used a SS number that was stolen from someone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenista View Post
    I wonder what would happen to a citizen who used a SS number that was stolen from someone?
    Wonder what would happen to a President who shared highly classified info with Russians?


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    Quote Originally Posted by elfie View Post
    It may be a good thing after this debacle:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...nd-590-K-in-NC
    There is exactly zero evidence that any of these voters showed up and were denied voting.

    Yes, the rolls are purged of ineligible voters. Why in the world is that a problem for democrats??

    At least some states try to contact the ineligible voter to give them the chance to either prove they ARE eligible, or voluntarily remove themselves from the registration.

    The link above says Ohio tries twice, then refers the name to LE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenista View Post
    I wonder what would happen to a citizen who used a SS number that was stolen from someone?
    Why would a citizen do that?

    Because they are ineligible due to something like a felony conviction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Z View Post
    There is exactly zero evidence that any of these voters showed up and were denied voting.

    Yes, the rolls are purged of ineligible voters. Why in the world is that a problem for democrats??

    At least some states try to contact the ineligible voter to give them the chance to either prove they ARE eligible, or voluntarily remove themselves from the registration.

    The link above says Ohio tries twice, then refers the name to LE.
    Some states put DO NOT FORWARD, on the requests so that that Post Office does not forward it to someone still living in the same town, or same apartment building, but not at the original address.

    http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

    "For example, in the swing state of North Carolina, it was reported that 6,700 Black folk lost their registrations because their registrations had been challenged by a group called Voter Integrity Project (VIP). VIP sent letters to households in Black communities “do not forward.” If the voter had moved within the same building, or somehow did not get their mail (e.g. if their name was not on a mail box), they were challenged as “ghost” voters. GOP voting officials happily complied with VIP with instant cancellation of registrations."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieBee View Post
    Wonder what would happen to a President who shared highly classified info with Russians?
    Ask Obama. He did it and Trump didn't. Another load of bricks on the heads of the Ds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenista View Post
    Ask Obama. He did it and Trump didn't. Another load of bricks on the heads of the Ds.



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