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    IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #59


    Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at High Bridge, just east of Delphi.


    Police ID bodies of Indiana girls

    Two bodies found along a northern Indiana stream are those of two teenage girls who went missing Mondayand their deaths are being investigated as homicides, authorities said on Wednesday.

    State Police Sgt. Kim Riley said autopsies performed Wednesday determined that the bodies are those of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, both of Delphi.

    Their bodies were found Tuesday afternoon along Deer Creek near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Police said the girls’ bodies were about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where they were dropped off Monday to go hiking.

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    Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

    Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at
    (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

    Information can also be emailed to
    Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

    video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

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    1) There are no named POIs or suspects in this case. A search warrant was served upon the owner of the property (RL) where the girls' bodies were found. RL was taken into custody for an unrelated crime during that time. His statements to press and subsequent arrest for the unrelated matters are all open for discussion.
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    Prayers for 5he friends and family.

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    Shiressleuth, I hope you don't mind me quoting you from the last thread. Thought this was worth bringing into the new thread so more people see it. You're right, he could easily be in Illinois (or other states too). Good thought.


    "Well done Dd for finding that out. I have discovered something today that could be relevant and I havent seen it mentioned before. That is that Feb 13 was an Illinois State public holiday for Lincolns birthday and the state line only looks to be about 100 miles away. So this guy could have been from over the state line and off work this day and decided to travel out of state to specifically commit this crime. Maybe he discovered it was a school snow day in Delphi with parents at work and it was that random. Its a horrible thought but I also thought about illinois bordering Iowa also. JMO."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClementineK View Post
    Shiressleuth, I hope you don't mind me quoting you from the last thread. Thought this was worth bringing into the new thread so more people see it. You're right, he could easily be in Illinois (or other states too). Good thought.


    "Well done Dd for finding that out. I have discovered something today that could be relevant and I havent seen it mentioned before. That is that Feb 13 was an Illinois State public holiday for Lincolns birthday and the state line only looks to be about 100 miles away. So this guy could have been from over the state line and off work this day and decided to travel out of state to specifically commit this crime. Maybe he discovered it was a school snow day in Delphi with parents at work and it was that random. Its a horrible thought but I also thought about illinois bordering Iowa also. JMO."

    I keep going back to what the poster Nana said in the earliest threads. She made the trip to the bridge shortly after the crime and posted the pics she took. One of the things she talked about was how hard it was to actually locate the bridge as an outsider. She had a hard time finding it, even when she asked for directions from a local. Consequently, she felt that someone had to know these paths. From her post and others who have said similar things after going there in person, I tend to wonder if he may have some degree of familiarity with Delphi since the bridge seems to be a popular hangout spot.

    Going off your train of thought though, it would be interesting to see if this was a guy who may have at one time lived in Delphi as a teen or young adult and moved to Illinois some time later. Perhaps he was visiting relatives in Delphi on his day off. Interesting theory that is worth looking into.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Evania View Post
    I keep going back to what the poster Nana said in the earliest threads. She made the trip to the bridge shortly after the crime and posted the pics she took. One of the things she talked about was how hard it was to actually locate the bridge as an outsider. She had a hard time finding it, even when she asked for directions from a local. Consequently, she felt that someone had to know these paths. From her post and others who have said similar things after going there in person, I tend to wonder if he may have some degree of familiarity with Delphi since the bridge seems to be a popular hangout spot.

    Going off your train of thought though, it would be interesting to see if this was a guy who may have at one time lived in Delphi as a teen or young adult and moved to Illinois some time later. Perhaps he was visiting relatives in Delphi on his day off. Interesting theory that is worth looking into.

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    Yeah, that is the general theory that has sounded most likely to me and that I always come back to.. That he knew the trails well from a history of spending time there but didn't necessarily still live there.. Having grown up there or visited often at some point in his life. Thank you for bringing that up again about the bridge being hard to find without prior knowledge of it. That makes me lean even more strongly towards this theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evania View Post
    I keep going back to what the poster Nana said in the earliest threads. She made the trip to the bridge shortly after the crime and posted the pics she took. One of the things she talked about was how hard it was to actually locate the bridge as an outsider. She had a hard time finding it, even when she asked for directions from a local. Consequently, she felt that someone had to know these paths. From her post and others who have said similar things after going there in person, I tend to wonder if he may have some degree of familiarity with Delphi since the bridge seems to be a popular hangout spot.

    Going off your train of thought though, it would be interesting to see if this was a guy who may have at one time lived in Delphi as a teen or young adult and moved to Illinois some time later. Perhaps he was visiting relatives in Delphi on his day off. Interesting theory that is worth looking into.




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    He lives there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Imo
    He lives there.
    Yeah, that's my hunch too. I believe that he either still lives there, or he grew up there and has relatives that he visits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evania View Post
    Yeah, that's my hunch too. I believe that he either still lives there, or he grew up there and has relatives that he visits.


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    I think he is still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evania View Post
    I keep going back to what the poster Nana said in the earliest threads. She made the trip to the bridge shortly after the crime and posted the pics she took. One of the things she talked about was how hard it was to actually locate the bridge as an outsider. She had a hard time finding it, even when she asked for directions from a local. Consequently, she felt that someone had to know these paths. From her post and others who have said similar things after going there in person, I tend to wonder if he may have some degree of familiarity with Delphi since the bridge seems to be a popular hangout spot.

    Going off your train of thought though, it would be interesting to see if this was a guy who may have at one time lived in Delphi as a teen or young adult and moved to Illinois some time later. Perhaps he was visiting relatives in Delphi on his day off. Interesting theory that is worth looking into.




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    I'd be interested to know if Nana used a map to get to City Park or just drove there trying to find it? And then what her particular issues were finding it?

    No disrespect to Nana...The reason I ask is as a hiker locating trail heads and using maps and locating them should be pretty easy for someone that does that routinely.

    Now BG doesn't look like a frequent hiker but he could have some experience.

    Having said that I think BG is a local to the area not necessarily Delphi city proper though.

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    I have a feeling the problem was her GPS...they had redone Rt25 I believe and therefore it was sending her in directions not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneGirl View Post
    I'd be interested to know if Nana used a map to get to City Park or just drove there trying to find it? And then what her particular issues were finding it?

    No disrespect to Nana...The reason I ask is as a hiker locating trail heads and using maps and locating them should be pretty easy for someone that does that routinely.

    Now BG doesn't look like a frequent hiker but he could have some experience.

    Having said that I think BG is a local to the area not necessarily Delphi city proper though.
    He looks more like a biker than a hiker.

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