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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    I have skimmed through the docs last night... here is my issue with the day planner thing...

    a women says she talked to TH (IIRC, it was 11:35am), and TH said she had to pull over to check her schedule. That's fine. But there is nothing saying that TH didn't go back home before going to her AT appointments later that day. IIRC, she didn't go to her first AT appt until almost 1pm. Maybe she went to the store for milk.... or cigarettes... Where is the rest of the planner? Is it in evidence, I will maybe have a look later to see if I can find it.

    I was happy to see that KZ pointed out that RH and KP, logically, weren't both at TH's house on the evening of the 3rd, there was a call to each other. I posted about that shortly after the original brief back in June. It's just not logical, common sense has to prevail at some point, right? LOL who am I kidding

    The stuff about Bobby was what blows my mind!!!! Those internet searches.... how in the world was no one in that household held accountable for having child porn on their home computer???? oh wait, let me guess.... I bet if "someone" said what the prosecutor wanted them to say at a trial against their uncle, that "someone" might not get charged with something like that! I have always wondered why Bobby would lie, now I know.
    Not to be disagreeable, but according to the affidavit Teresa told Denise that she was 'on her way' to an appointment for Auto Trader.

    I also suspect that Teresa would most likely have her day planner with her as she made her rounds, unless she copied it or memorized it. I can't think of a reason for her to leave it behind.

    It appears to me this planner is just her schedule for the week, probably printed off her computer before she headed out on her rounds, with handwritten notes as she went along.

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    DEFENDANT STEVEN AVERY'S SUPPLEMENT TO PREVIOUSLY FILED MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
    http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-co...n_redacted.pdf
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    Just read it! The phone conversation

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    All I have to say is WOW~~

    Thanks for posting it up Karinna!
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    You're welcome BCA. I agree wow is right, SMH too.
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    Thanks Karinna! I did see it at work today, but I'm not good with my phone, so posting links and stuff is a pain lol

    That phone conversation just makes me go hmmmm... like, why in the world would Barb now be trying to say they didn't even have internet? C'mon LOL And Scott.... him saying he wasn't even there that day? huh? thought you saw a big fire, etc. I did notice that Steven told Barb they have the "records" from the hospital, I'm guessing it didn't reference whether he was there or not, or it would have been included. I know that when my Dad was in the hospital for months, the nurses always made a note on his chart if family was there (which was all the time haha).

    Oh and the half-brother, Brad... looks like he called investigators about Barb trying to get rid of things on her computer.... so this isn't something that he just pulled out of a hat. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    Thanks Karinna! I did see it at work today, but I'm not good with my phone, so posting links and stuff is a pain lol

    That phone conversation just makes me go hmmmm... like, why in the world would Barb now be trying to say they didn't even have internet? C'mon LOL And Scott.... him saying he wasn't even there that day? huh? thought you saw a big fire, etc. I did notice that Steven told Barb they have the "records" from the hospital, I'm guessing it didn't reference whether he was there or not, or it would have been included. I know that when my Dad was in the hospital for months, the nurses always made a note on his chart if family was there (which was all the time haha).

    Oh and the half-brother, Brad... looks like he called investigators about Barb trying to get rid of things on her computer.... so this isn't something that he just pulled out of a hat. Interesting.
    I agree missy, it is all very revealing IMO, the lies & deception in this case.
    I hope your dad is doing well, and all is good with him.
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    In regards to that phone conversation....a couple of points.
    1) My first reaction when I first started reading it was amusement, I must admit, because I got flashbacks of watching the documentary with all the "Yeah's" contained in that phone convo. I also have to admit that in my mind I was using that famous Wisconsin accent in my mind while reading it, lol.
    2) It would now seem to be proven that ST definitely has a short fuse, which is shown in his part of that conversation in the background. He knows that call was being recorded, but has no qualms about threatening SA's life..."I will put you in the f^%&ing ground."
    3)SA implies that KZ has access to hospital cam footage that may destroy ST's alibi abou visiting his mother....wonder if this is true??
    and 4) BD's mother really needs to stay off FB, smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiddie View Post
    In regards to that phone conversation....a couple of points.
    1) My first reaction when I first started reading it was amusement, I must admit, because I got flashbacks of watching the documentary with all the "Yeah's" contained in that phone convo. I also have to admit that in my mind I was using that famous Wisconsin accent in my mind while reading it, lol.
    2) It would now seem to be proven that ST definitely has a short fuse, which is shown in his part of that conversation in the background. He knows that call was being recorded, but has no qualms about threatening SA's life..."I will put you in the f^%&ing ground."
    3)SA implies that KZ has access to hospital cam footage that may destroy ST's alibi abou visiting his mother....wonder if this is true??
    and 4) BD's mother really needs to stay off FB, smh.
    It's getting really deep. The family's FB page has been archived, they are saying for the night, but we will see what transpires in the coming days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karinna View Post
    I agree missy, it is all very revealing IMO, the lies & deception in this case.
    I hope your dad is doing well, and all is good with him.
    Thanks Karinna, he is doing okay now... still a few hurdles to get over, but on the mend for sure!


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    Quote Originally Posted by missy1974 View Post
    Thanks Karinna, he is doing okay now... still a few hurdles to get over, but on the mend for sure!
    That's great missy, and i hope his health continues to improve.
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    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...motion-w510878

    'Making a Murderer': Avery Lawyer Adds Allegations in New Court Motion'

    Especially interesting is this quote from KZ:

    " The phone call captures the great tragedy of Steven's life," Zellner tells Rolling Stone. "The people who should be helping him want him to shut up and quietly accept that he will die in prison. … I ask myself what would motivate Tadych and Bobby to be such obstructionists and I have reached the inevitable conclusion, as our court filings state, that they were involved in the crime and Barb, was and is involved, even unwittingly, in its coverup. … Tadych thinks he can intimidate us into looking away, but he has only succeeded in placing himself front and center in our investigation. Quite frankly, he is no match for our abilities, experience, resources or boundless commitment to freeing Steven Avery."

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    http://www.wbay.com/content/news/See...458083153.html

    'Seeking New Trial, Zellner Files More Evidence.'

    "According to Zellner, police didn't investigate an anonymous note discovered at a Green Bay post office during the search for Teresa Halbach, which said her body was burned in an "alunamon" smelter. The note included the word "skinny" misspelled. She says Tadych worked at an aluminum foundry and his nickname at work was Skinny."

    Very informative article about KZ's latest filing (link is included at the end of this posting) which also states that DS & JB have given KZ affidavits that concur with the statement that they were ineffective in their role as SA's counsel.

    Link to the latest filing:
    http://fox11digital.com/news/PDFs/Avery%20Nov.16.pdf

    Edit: My first link to the filing only included the first 16 pages of the latest motion which I have now replaced with a link that goes to the full 113 page document that includes the affidavits and such.
    Last edited by Jaiddie; 11-16-2017 at 10:29 PM.

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    Thanks Jaiddie!! I have read it.... still digesting it LOL

    A bit of new info... the other Steve (from Sheboygan)said when he spoke to her at 12:44, she was in the area. Brady violation ... not releasing the CD with the Dassey computer forensics (this one could be huge if true). Some more info about the searches on the Dassey computer (disturbing). ST's work info... at work he was called "Skinny", 20 people, including ST, worked the night shift... of which half were illiterate.... could SIKIKEY be someone trying to spell Skinny?

    Oh and the best thing... KZ will be filing an appeal tomorrow since the judge has not responded yet.

    ETA: ohhhhhh and... KZ gets Strang to sign an affidavit that basically says that hiring a blood spatter expert or ballistics expert never even crossed his mind (goes to ineffectiveness of counsel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiddie View Post
    http://www.wbay.com/content/news/See...458083153.html

    'Seeking New Trial, Zellner Files More Evidence.'

    "According to Zellner, police didn't investigate an anonymous note discovered at a Green Bay post office during the search for Teresa Halbach, which said her body was burned in an "alunamon" smelter. The note included the word "skinny" misspelled. She says Tadych worked at an aluminum foundry and his nickname at work was Skinny."

    Very informative article about KZ's latest filing (link is included at the end of this posting) which also states that DS & JB have given KZ affidavits that concur with the statement that they were ineffective in their role as SA's counsel.

    Link to the latest filing:
    http://fox11digital.com/news/PDFs/Avery%20Nov.16.pdf

    Edit: My first link to the filing only included the first 16 pages of the latest motion which I have now replaced with a link that goes to the full 113 page document that includes the affidavits and such.
    Sounds like Ms. Zellner is FED UP with the Wisconsin Judicial System At the very LEAST the judge.
    When reading many of her filings in their entirety... The COMMON SENSE. The details which were overlooked by the officers as well as the court..
    ( everything MANY of us pointed out and debated so long ago, lol )
    I honestly don't blame her. Not a bit.
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