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    Quote Originally Posted by Elainera View Post
    Much more destroyed than I would have thought! Basically only metal is left, all else is burnt beyond recognition. I've never seen anything like it.
    Yes - it looks as if the internal walls within each flat were burnt away to nothing, judging by the bathroom shot. They had the videos on the BBC news.

    What exactly does a down payment mean here? More money later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    I hope the government will payout more to cover injuries, mental health PTSD counselling etc. Hopefully money will be paid out for wrongful death without the need for lengthy lawsuits. I'm concerned the victims won't get money for loss of possessions due to the possibility the building insurers will say they should have had home insurance and they are not liable. I wonder how much coverage the building insurance has. The whole situation must be causing so much heartbreak and uncertainty.
    This will probably all take years to sort out ... and I would be surprised if it went forward without any lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellmau View Post
    Yes - it looks as if the internal walls within each flat were burnt away to nothing, judging by the bathroom shot. They had the videos on the BBC news.



    Yes.
    What were the internal walls made of that they can just disappear like that?

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    Plasterboard probably - clearly nothing at all substantial.

    http://www.practicaldiy.com/general-...ls-plaster.php

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    off topic - Breaking News - a van has driven into pedestrians tonight in London. There are a number of casualties. How much more tragedy can the U.K endure?
    The terrorists will never win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregjrichards View Post
    off topic - Breaking News - a van has driven into pedestrians tonight in London. There are a number of casualties. How much more tragedy can the U.K endure?
    WS link: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...n-19-June-2017

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    At least two witnesses told Sky News that there were three men in the van, but the Met Police statement seems to directly contradict that, saying no other suspects had been identified or reported to police.
    The stuff of future conspiracy theories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...s-live-updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elainera View Post
    What exactly does a down payment mean here? More money later? The amount sounds ridiculously low to me.
    It's an immediate payment to allow people to replace essentials like clothing, footwear and children's toys and to meet any other immediate needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    The stuff of future conspiracy theories.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...s-live-updates
    I've already read that this was set up as a distraction from Grenfell. As though anyone is going to forget the massive ruined tower dominating Londons skyline.

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    Sky News - Police 79 people dead or missing and presumed dead. 5 people formally identified so far. They may not be able to identify everyone who died due to the devastation inside the building.
    Last edited by gregjrichards; 06-19-2017 at 06:06 AM.
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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/london-...sing-1.4166928
    5 people previously reported as missing in wake of fire are accounted for and alive

    Members of the emergency services join people in a minute's silence for the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire near the site of the blaze in North Kensington, London on Monday. (Marko Djurica/Reuters)
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    It was great to read some good news about this tragedy about the family of 5 being found alive.
    The terrorists will never win.

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    Anthony Disson, 65, confirmed dead, and they've identified one woman whose family have asked for her not to be publicly named.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40327357

    Mr Disson left a large family who must be devastated. He was also involved with a boxing club who had premises on the ground floor: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/20...tower-trained/

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    n a separate development, Panorama has discovered that firefighters put out the first fire at Grenfell Tower.

    They were called to a fridge fire, and within minutes told residents the fire was out in the flat.

    The crew was leaving the building when firefighters outside spotted flames rising up the side of the building.

    The Fire Brigades Union say firefighters were left facing an unprecedented fire, and officers broke their own safety protocol to rescue people.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40330789

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