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    Concrete Evidence of Collusion Emerges

    The main story is here - I can not get to it

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-ope...70851?mod=e2tw

    Please note this is not one of those according to officials!

    Emails written by Mr. Smith and one of his associates show that his small group considered Mr. Flynn and his consulting company, Flynn Intel Group, to be allies in their quest.

    Becasue I could not get to the story casue of paywall I got it from several places!

    “He said, ‘I’m talking to Michael Flynn about this—if you find anything, can you let me know?’

    ....
    ntelligence reports that purport to show “Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary.”

    Before the 2016 presidential election, a longtime Republican opposition researcher mounted an independent campaign to obtain emails he believed were stolen from Hillary Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.

    n conversations with members of his circle and with others he tried to recruit to help him, the GOP operative, Peter W. Smith, implied he was working with retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn,

    Smith told his inner circle and potential recruits he was “talking to Michael Flynn about
    the his attempts to obtain those emails, computer-security expert Eric York told the Journal.

    “He said, ‘I’m talking to Michael Flynn about this—if you find anything, can you let me know?’” said Eric York, a computer-security expert from Atlanta who searched hacker forums on Mr. Smith’s behalf ...
    Emails written by Mr. Smith and one of his associates show ..... considered Mr. Flynn and his consulting company, Flynn Intel Group, to be allies in their quest.
    . Smith said he knew Mr. Flynn, but he never stated that Mr. Flynn was involved.
    Mr. Flynn didn’t respond to requests for comment.


    Mr. Smith died at age 81 on May 14, which was about 10 days after the Journal interviewed him.
    Republican operative tied to Mike Flynn tried to obtain Hillary Clinton's emails: Report


    A Republican opposition researcher with a potential connection to President Trump's former national security adviser Mike Flynn tried to obtain emails he thought were stolen from Hillary Clinton's email server,
    According to the Wall Street Journal, the GOP operative, Peter W. Smith implied to people he sought to recruit to participate in his mission to access the stolen emails that he was working with Flynn, who was then a national security adviser to then-candidate Trump.
    The newspaper reported that emails written by Smith and one of his associates show Flynn and his consulting company, Flynn Intel Group, were allies in their effort.

    Smith, 81, died about a week and a half after his interview with the Journal, the report notes.
    ... campaign official told the Journal that Smith never worked for them, and if Flynn coordinated with Smith, it would have been in his private capacity.
    The Journal reports that U.S. investigators, as part of the probe of Russia's election interference, have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Clinton's server and then give them to Flynn through an intermediary.
    Smith thought the emails might have been obtained by hackers and that they actually concerned official matters Clinton wanted to hide.

    Smith said his team found at least two groups of Russia hackers who claimed to possess emails from Clinton’s private server. Smith said he “told all the groups to give them to WikiLeaks”

    Trump himself once called on “Russia” to “find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”



    Former FBI Director James Comey has said there is no evidence Clinton's private server has been hacked, but he left open the possibility it might have been.
    Flynn is a central figure of investigations into Russia election interference and possible. Flynn was fired from his role as national security adviser after admitting he had misled the vice president and other White House officials

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/re...rticle/2627512

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/gop-...on-with-flynn/

    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141810758



    Both Rachel and Morning Joe had the reporter with the scoop on.

    Highlights from his interviews

    Smith actually contacted the reported himself.

    He described trying to find out where the emails were.

    He told the reporter that Flynn was
    activity involved in trying to get the emails as well.

    Flynn's name kept coming up in terms of this guy trying to locate them.



    THe writer described SMith as very willing to talk , had the sense that he would be able to get back to him for more info.

    Smith died
    ten days later. The reporter tried to find out cause of death in his hometown but could not find any info about his COD.

    THREAD #1










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    Levin: 'Now We Have Collusion - Democrats Should Be Excited'

    Former DOJ Chief of Staff Mark Levin said Democrats should be "excited" because there is finally proof of collusion with the Russians - on their side of the aisle.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/2...-putin-clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by scmom View Post
    Levin: 'Now We Have Collusion - Democrats Should Be Excited'

    Former DOJ Chief of Staff Mark Levin said Democrats should be "excited" because there is finally proof of collusion with the Russians - on their side of the aisle.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/2...-putin-clinton
    The aisle has nothing to do with anything. There tends to be a general notion that treason is bothersome to most.

    It is dangerous obviously -the greed dishonesty corruption in the oval office is repulsive and offensive.

    People also, tend not to like cheaters and we like our leaders to be elected by us not hackers from Russia.

    When the money laundering stuff lands folks will find out what a nasty bunch of ruthless immoral folks.

    Remember dirty money is from drugs, human trafficking, stealing etc etc--people getting hurt.

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    It is amazing what Trump supporters are willing to accept. As Trump said. He could kill someone and his supporters would still support him.

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    So now we have not an "anonymous" source but a dead man. How convenient.

    Comey Friend Unveils "Smoking Gun" Story
    the WSJ admits they have no idea if Flynn was even involved with Smith

    Mr. Smith said he knew Mr. Flynn, but he never stated that Mr. Flynn was involved.

    Mr. Smith said he worked independently and wasn’t part of the Trump campaign


    His efforts to scour hacker forums ultimately yielded 5 groups who claimed to have the missing emails, 2 of which were Russian. However, Smith seemingly doubted the authenticity of the intelligence he received and, as a result, never leaked their contents.

    “We told all the groups to give them to WikiLeaks,” he said. WikiLeaks has never published those emails or claimed to have them.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...king-gun-story

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    The aisle has nothing to do with anything. There tends to be a general notion that treason is bothersome to most.

    It is dangerous obviously -the greed dishonesty corruption in the oval office is repulsive and offensive.

    People also, tend not to like cheaters and we like our leaders to be elected by us not hackers from Russia.

    When the money laundering stuff lands folks will find out what a nasty bunch of ruthless immoral folks.

    Remember dirty money is from drugs, human trafficking, stealing etc etc--people getting hurt.
    The point of the article was that collusion with Russia was on the Democratic side of the aisle.

    Obama knew about Russian interference in the 2016 election back in August, but did not act because he assumed Hillary Clinton would win the presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    It is amazing what Trump supporters are willing to accept. As Trump said. He could kill someone and his supporters would still support him.
    Sad but true as we have seen on this thread......trump supporters will accept any behavior even if it is obvious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouBelle_LA View Post
    The point of the article was that collusion with Russia was on the Democratic side of the aisle.

    Obama knew about Russian interference in the 2016 election back in August, but did not act because he assumed Hillary Clinton would win the presidency.

    That is total spin. It was a very big puzzle that took time to figure out, understand, find out who, how, where when.

    Then needed confirmation. This involved 14 intel agencies across the globe.

    Unmasking is a long and complicateed process - media makes it sound like poof

    It is not like that at all.It is layered and reviewed etc etc

    Then after that they had to create a FISA case. That too is a process.

    Then they had to go to the FISA COURT.

    Then after they won that cause of the overwhelming evidence that much was an array with many Trump associates then they have to get there assets in order to monitor more.

    These folks were all over the place so the collection takes time.

    Then the Intel has been decoded.

    Intel then has to be shared back and forht with the other intel agencies across the globe.

    Then interagency analysis has to be done so intel folks in other nations can weigh in , add nuance etc.

    Then analysts have to analyze the intel.

    The analyzed intel has to be brief.

    Then those briefed have to have meetings. Then questions come up requiring another briefing and another briefing and another

    Then they have to come up with responses.

    Then other players start to emerge. \\The have to put it all together.

    Media makes it like it is this quick deal. It is not. There are laws they had to follow.

    Obama and his team are thought out intelligent people - they do not go off just shooting their mouths off .

    There are policies between the 5 eyes intel folk - there are timely protocols that we all have agreed to.

    The stuff has to be shared carefully and securely.

    When all the experts across the world concurred that that was indeed what they capturing the implications and plans (I think October) Obama fulfilled his obligations to the public and informed the citizens of his nation what had determined.

    At that point they still had not understood that it was the voter registration and the electoral college was altered- that was after he left office.

    He convened experts and ordered that the process of install cyber bombs on Russias infrastructure began. He took decisive action.

    Obviously, he knew Hillary is presidential and would continue with the implementation of the cyber bombs.

    It is complicated - his term ended - what more could he do.

    There is speculation that folks that grasp the seriousness of the problem (unlike the moron in the office) and that they are continuing to plant cyber bombs without telling any of the stupid people in the white house.

    It must be done, and Putin must know that if this continues we have contingencies that will inflict massive consequences for Putin's people.

    Any supporters heard your president explain what actions he is taking to avoid Putin being able to get people elected in your country?

    Any President that was not corrupt would be all over it like Obama and his team.

    This schmuck is still in denial

    There is no doubt whatsoever that Putin altered the electoral college, resulted in the shocking victory.


    It was not until 6 days ago that he realized that the gig was up :

    Trump Acknowledges Russian Election ‘Meddling’


    NSA has confrimed
    CIA has confirmed
    Rogers has confirmed
    Jay has confirmed
    Yates has confirmed
    Comey has confirmed
    Britains Intel has confirmed
    Dutch intel has confirmed
    Cotts has confirmed
    Rodgers has confirmed
    The top lady with short blond hair (!) has confirmed
    THe acting FBI guy has confirmed (there is gonna be a ruckus with him starting next week - ha ya heard it here!

    This is is next week's buzz : Andrew McCabe

    Supporters need to catch up -- Putin put your guy in office -it is fact

    The "if" days are over.

    Catch up with facts supporters

    CONFIRMED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeck View Post
    Sad but true as we have seen on this thread......Trump supporters will accept any behavior even if it is obvious.
    Lets just forget all the lies but this one

    Trump: I will not cut Medicaid (said 4,231 times during campaign trail). Opppsss
    look at the last two weeks .

    Flat out lie -- but there the supporters are

    I also assume some females voted for this sexist pig - yesterday - no response from folks that think he is doing fine

    Its just strange stuff folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by neesaki View Post
    So now we have not an "anonymous" source but a dead man. How convenient.

    Comey Friend Unveils "Smoking Gun" Story






    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...king-gun-story
    Sorry - but his data matches up with what intel intercepts prove.

    PS There are emails regarding this

    This is more fake news? Gosh when does any news happen - he has everyone believing that everything is fake news.

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    Menschite = fact lite.

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    trump is a very sick man....he is disgrace to our country. He is a prolific liar and disgusting sexist pig. I think trump supporters need to really look at their own reasons for still defending him.

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