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    Concerns about Trumps mental state growing

    To say that there are mental health impairments in Mr Trump is not to make a moral judgement on him, and not to indict him in any way.
    “It should not be used as a political weapon against him, but rather should be raised as a concern just like any medical issue that may impair an individual’s ability to function in office.

    ...., more and more allegations rise to the surface claiming that the President is mentally unfit for office.
    sources have claimed that privately these Republicans are deeply troubled by Trump’s erratic and unprecedented behavior in the White House.
    Journalist Carl Bernstein, who earned recognition for his acclaimed coverage of the Watergate scandal,
    “We have many reporters, myself included, who have talked to numerous people, Republicans on Capitol Hill, who in private will tell you they doubt the stability of this president,” ...
    It’s part of the story and it’s very hard to cover.”

    The Washington Post published an article on Saturday which also spoke about the worries Trump’s “allies” have regarding his mental fitness.

    “Here’s the problem, the arc of this narrative keeps getting worse,” Scarborough said. “People on the inside say he keeps getting worse, mentally keeps getting worse. This is not, unfortunately, a learning curve—this is a man on decline.”

    Some have argued that Trump’s behavior demonstrates a clear impulsiveness and narcissism that’s dangerous for such a powerful figure to possess.

    Others have also pointed out signs of dementia in his speech and conduct. (my vote!)

    more alarming are the droves of mental-health professionals—actual experts on these matters—who have conveyed their belief that Trump is not suited for the office he now holds.

    800 of these professionals has since come together to make this opinion known. As Yale psychiatry professor Dr. Bandy X. Lee puts it, the members of this coalition are “sufficiently alarmed that they feel the need to speak up about the mental-health status of the president.”

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    i think this guy makes an interesting case:


    He did one questioning literacy, but as i watched this one I thought dementia.



    I have no idea who or what this guy is, but his analysis is interesting.

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    Donald Trump behaviour ‘showing a lot of signs’ of dangerous mental illness, says leading Yale psychiatrist

    “As mental health professionals we are privy to specialised knowledge that most others may not have, or be able to perceive. That is how psychiatric or psychological dynamics can have public health consequences at large.

    she believed “diagnosing an individual from afar isn’t possible”, she and others had a duty to speak out and that “we are expected and required to put survival and safety above all else”.

    “Assessing dangerousness is actually quite different from doing an individual analysis. It’s about protecting the individual and his or her potential victims.
    “[Mr Trump] is certainly showing a lot of signs. A number of us really believe that he should undergo an evaluation, to undergo really the true extent of his impairment. This shouldn’t be spoken about carelessly, gratuitously.
    “The real dangerousness is this instability, unpredictability and impulsivity

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/o...17-column.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7700816.html


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    I don't think dementia explains all his behavior. I think he has a personality disorder, but you have to admit his behavior is erratic and shows a lack of impulse control, and good judgment. I think the narcissism is lifelong, but the inability to articulate like an adult, and behave like an adult in public is newer. I think he has narcissism personality disorder, with some more recent dementia, that could just be due to hardening of the arteries. The article below sounds like trump.
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20025568

    "Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment.

    DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

    Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
    Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
    Exaggerating your achievements and talents
    Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
    Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
    Requiring constant admiration
    Having a sense of entitlement
    Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
    Taking advantage of others to get what you want
    Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
    Being envious of others and believing others envy you
    Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

    Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others."

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    Mrseeker, I believe you are totally correct. my gosh, but that DMV list is him to perfection (you're #1, djt -- winning!).

    Being manipulative and lying has gotten him through life well enough to feed his ego. No one ever called him out on his poor behavior, If they tried he squashed them with his "powers". The Master Manipulator, JMO. His intimidating behaviors and the recipients' fears of what he would do has silenced more people than we even know.

    I believe his personality disorder has been fed throughout his life. Never told no or covering for his actions/words by family, maybe spoiled to the max by parents (I have no clue if this happened), doted on, put on a pedestal. I doubt he was a remarkable student -- and I believe he may have even bought his grades (threats to the instructor? Paid another to do his papers or tests? I don't know, but I believe there is something to this theory) in order to graduate.

    How anyone expected he would become President and miraculously change is beyond me.

    I was raised to always give respect to the President, even if I disagreed with his decisions. Unfortunately, this has turned into the first for whom I can find no redeeming features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrseeker View Post
    I don't think dementia explains all his behavior. I think he has a personality disorder, but you have to admit his behavior is erratic and shows a lack of impulse control, and good judgment. I think the narcissism is lifelong, but the inability to articulate like an adult, and behave like an adult in public is newer. I think he has narcissism personality disorder, with some more recent dementia, that could just be due to hardening of the arteries. The article below sounds like trump.
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20025568

    "Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment.

    DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

    Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
    Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
    Exaggerating your achievements and talents
    Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
    Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
    Requiring constant admiration
    Having a sense of entitlement
    Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
    Taking advantage of others to get what you want
    Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
    Being envious of others and believing others envy you
    Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

    Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others."
    Nice to see you Mr Seeker.! I think there is more going on than malignant narcissism.

    Did you see this:

    He is disoriented - had to be redirected?

    They canceled event for that night saying something about a helicopter !!!!

    Staffers reported he was not sure where he was after wards - that has not been confirmed.

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    Perhaps he has some form of attention Deficit Disorder (undiagnosed?). And lack of sleep --- that can even kill you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrseeker View Post
    i think this guy makes an interesting case:


    He did one questioning literacy, but as i watched this one I thought dementia.



    I have no idea who or what this guy is, but his analysis is interesting.
    I have def thought he is reading impaired. The video was awesome TY! Then again I do not thank you ! Having someone who cants read is a problem in the oval office!

    It correlates with his request that his briefings are short with pictures.

    It also always struck as peculiar when he is signing EO he always "pretends" to glance it --this just struck me as so off.

    I read up on his childhood. In school settings, he acted up all the time. Children who are limited often do this. Think about how hard it is to pretend you can read. They are ashamed, chronically afraid of being found out. Frustrated - anxiety builds and they act out to discharge the frustration and anger.

    He is totally disoriented here - again:

    President Trump held a ceremony to sign executive orders on trade, but after the ceremony ended he walked......

    watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dux1mhnfuNQ

    This appears to be just a zoning out again

    She had to hit him gently

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    OCD like but Peculiar:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    I have def thought he is reading impaired. The video was awesome TY! Then again I do not thank you ! Having someone who cants read is a problem in the oval office!

    It correlates with his request that his briefings are short with pictures....

    This appears to be just a zoning out again

    She had to hit him gently

    I can't believe he never could read. He is reading teleprompters, when they force him, with no real issues. I am going with "zoning out" as you say. I think its more revealing, when you look at his choice of words over time. He use to talk with more sophistication, but now its often one syllable words, especially saying things are good, bad, sad, and people are losers...its like expanding on topics are too much of a strain. Rather than explaining something, he says it will be great, or a disaster, or fantastic or will just say its fake, or evil. I really don't think he has always been this way. He has always been a narcissist, and conman, and carnival barker. Now he is all of those things, as well as a simpleton. Why he is a simpleton now is the mystery.


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    Hey people make mistakes ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrseeker View Post
    I can't believe he never could read. He is reading teleprompters, when they force him, with no real issues. I am going with "zoning out" as you say. I think its more revealing, when you look at his choice of words over time. He use to talk with more sophistication, but now its often one syllable words, especially saying things are good, bad, sad, and people are losers...its like expanding on topics are too much of a strain. Rather than explaining something, he says it will be great, or a disaster, or fantastic or will just say its fake, or evil. I really don't think he has always been this way. He has always been a narcissist, and conman, and carnival barker. Now he is all of those things, as well as a simpleton. Why he is a simpleton now is the mystery.
    Early onset dementia = confusion??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    Perhaps he has some form of attention Deficit Disorder (undiagnosed?). And lack of sleep --- that can even kill you.
    Think of the early morning tweets and stuff:

    Sundowning:

    Bolding not me!!

    People with Alzheimer's and dementia may have problems sleeping or increases in behavioral problems that begin at dusk and last into the night (known as sundowning).:


    Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning can also lead to pacing or wandering. Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia, such as Alzheimer's disease.http://www.alz.org/care/alzheimers-d...#ixzz4lV7O44G2
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrseeker View Post
    I can't believe he never could read. He is reading teleprompters, when they force him, with no real issues. I am going with "zoning out" as you say. I think its more revealing, when you look at his choice of words over time. He use to talk with more sophistication, but now its often one syllable words, especially saying things are good, bad, sad, and people are losers...its like expanding on topics are too much of a strain. Rather than explaining something, he says it will be great, or a I disaster, or fantastic or will just say its fake, or evil. I really don't think he has always been this way. He has always been a narcissist, and conman, and carnival barker. Now he is all of those things, as well as a simpleton. Why he is a simpleton now is the mystery.
    I think impaired not can not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CARIIS View Post
    Think of the early morning tweets and stuff:

    Sundowning:

    Bolding not me!!

    People with Alzheimer's and dementia may have problems sleeping or increases in behavioral problems that begin at dusk and last into the night (known as sundowning).:


    Sundowning can cause a variety of behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning can also lead to pacing or wandering. Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia, such as Alzheimer's disease.http://www.alz.org/care/alzheimers-d...#ixzz4lV7O44G2

    Thanks for this one, Cariis. very interesting.

    I do believe there is some sort of disability at play, whether physical, emotional, or intellectual, I am not convinced of anything specific yet.
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