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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilibet View Post
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    I know, it's very hard to analyze people like this. She does look downcast and remorseful...or sad about her whole narcissistic world collapsing. He looks like this is a walk in the park by himself, enjoying the scenery. I noticed AD has "distancing" body language from DD...arms crossed, never looks at him, acts as if he isn't there. You'd think they'd be clinging to each other (if allowed) or at least seem like a couple. I think she is going to throw him under the bus and claim to be an abuse victim herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotr View Post
    Do not seem to see anything in AM, maybe given this resume they are hesitant?
    imo, speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilibet View Post
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    I know, it's very hard to analyze people like this. She does look downcast and remorseful...or sad about her whole narcissistic world collapsing. He looks like this is a walk in the park by himself, enjoying the scenery. I noticed AD has "distancing" body language from DD...arms crossed, never looks at him, acts as if he isn't there. You'd think they'd be clinging to each other (if allowed) or at least seem like a couple. I think she is going to throw him under the bus and claim to be an abuse victim herself.
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    Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. On the one hand, if a sexual abuse charge is eventually brought it most likely will fall on DD's head so AD would be wise to distance herself from him. I agree that if that happens she'll toss him under the bus like a discarded gum wrapper.

    OTOH, something that crossed my mind after reading about them "treating" Faye Lin with a "Japanese healing technique," along with doses of Valium (figure out that combination) is that she/they may claim the chest compression was part of some therapy for children with behavior problems. Something like restraining Faye Lin during an episode of self- or other-harming where her ribs "accidentally" got cracked.

    I don't believe that for one minute, especially since there is no documented evidence so far that Faye Lin had emotional or mental problems, I'm just saying they could come up with a doozy of a defense, in which case they would IMO close ranks.

    I think a lot will hinge on what the other girls share during their interviews - hopefully with a trained specialist. With the parents in jail they may feel comfortable enough to tell what went on in the house.

    I'm still not clear on how many times DC had visits with the girls after the divorce - the attorney was kind of vague. DD appears to have the finances to pay for trips, either to Belize or to fly them to his home. He may make a public statement at some point, depending on his legal advice.

    Next dates up are August and October. Maybe we'll learn more before then. I hope they don't get bail in the meantime, but at least the girls are safe from these nasty people.

    http://7newsbelize.com/sstory.php?nid=41120

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    I wonder if the "Japanese healing technique" was Reiki? She listed herself as a certified practitioner in the deleted bio I posted in post #12. The Belizian authorities probably had to look up what it was. Not compatible with valium, for sure.

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    It is possible that the chest compression injuries and broken ribs are from attempted CPR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AskMeNoQuestions View Post
    It is possible that the chest compression injuries and broken ribs are from attempted CPR.

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    It's true that CPR can cause these kinds of injuries, and I expect they'll claim that's what caused them even if it wasn't the true cause. But, of course, it might be what happened. Either way, if this poor girl hadn't come out of her room in three weeks, as claimed, there's a huge amount of neglect going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilibet View Post
    It's true that CPR can cause these kinds of injuries, and I expect they'll claim that's what caused them even if it wasn't the true cause. But, of course, it might be what happened. Either way, if this poor girl hadn't come out of her room in three weeks, as claimed, there's a huge amount of neglect going on.
    Oh yes, something terrible happened to her first


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    Quote Originally Posted by Satchie View Post
    I wonder if the "Japanese healing technique" was Reiki? She listed herself as a certified practitioner in the deleted bio I posted in post #12. The Belizian authorities probably had to look up what it was. Not compatible with valium, for sure.

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    I'm sure that's what they are talking about. But while Reiki may be considered a "hands on" approach to healing, it certainly does not include chest compressions to the point of breaking bones as part of the technique.

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    This is from the Reiki Council website:

    The method of receiving a Reiki treatment from a practitioner is simple. The recipient remains clothed and lies on a couch or sits on a chair and relaxes. The practitioner gently places their hands non-intrusively, on or near the body. There is no massage or manipulation and the whole person is treated rather than specific symptoms. It is also possible to receive Reiki at a distance.

    There is no way the mother can claim it happened during a Reiki session.

    http://www.reikicouncil.org.uk/What-is-Reiki.php


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    The first and last child are featured on her fb page nothing of the middle two..
    Could be because those two had a more "acceptable" look in her opinion.
    By my calculation oldest is 16+ so she is more than capable of shedding light on what went wrong here.
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    Anke looks like she is trying to look sad. Like when I go into work after "being sick" and have to look sick.
    At the end of the video of her it seems like she says "thank you" and then she cries. I wonder if someone said something like sorry for your loss or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maisiebelle View Post
    This is from the Reiki Council website:

    The method of receiving a Reiki treatment from a practitioner is simple. The recipient remains clothed and lies on a couch or sits on a chair and relaxes. The practitioner gently places their hands non-intrusively, on or near the body. There is no massage or manipulation and the whole person is treated rather than specific symptoms. It is also possible to receive Reiki at a distance.

    There is no way the mother can claim it happened during a Reiki session.

    http://www.reikicouncil.org.uk/What-is-Reiki.php


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    I don't think the Japanese healing technique is alleged to be the cause of death The prosecution doesn't have sufficient evidence at this point, they say, to prove who or what killed her, how that happened.

    However they do have a statement from Anke claiming the girl had a mental illness, refused to eat, would throw herself against the wall. So prosecutors are taking that statement and on that basis laying the charge of cruelty, because rather than take her to a doctor to be diagnosed for the these alleged symptoms, on their own admission they treated her with valium and the "Japanese healing technique" ie Reiki. Presumably Anke didn't know DD was giving her valium, was my comment, it's not compatible with Reiki.

    So prosecutors have proof, just from their own statements, of negligence amounting to cruelty while the girl was alive. The death/sex abuse is still under investigation.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dyannaON View Post
    Anke looks like she is trying to look sad. Like when I go into work after "being sick" and have to look sick.
    At the end of the video of her it seems like she says "thank you" and then she cries. I wonder if someone said something like sorry for your loss or something.


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    Ha! Yes she does look like she's trying to look sad and bereft.

    I'm not good at lip-reading, but it looked to me like she said "I don't know." I assumed a reporter asked her how her daughter died or who killed her. I can't imagine a reporter or anyone in Belize making a sympathetic comment. But that's JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satchie View Post
    I don't think the Japanese healing technique is alleged to be the cause of death The prosecution doesn't have sufficient evidence at this point, they say, to prove who or what killed her, how that happened.

    However they do have a statement from Anke claiming the girl had a mental illness, refused to eat, would throw herself against the wall. So prosecutors are taking that statement and on that basis laying the charge of cruelty, because rather than take her to a doctor to be diagnosed for the these alleged symptoms, on their own admission they treated her with valium and the "Japanese healing technique" ie Reiki. Presumably Anke didn't know DD was giving her valium, was my comment, it's not compatible with Reiki.

    So prosecutors have proof, just from their own statements, of negligence amounting to cruelty while the girl was alive. The death/sex abuse is still under investigation.



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    Just jumping off your post....

    I would think that the odds were at least one of the 4 girls who were adopted would have some type of mental health issue, maybe before even coming to the US. These are supposedly 4 girls from different situations in China who were all brought to the US at various times and ages to form one family unit with a childless adoptive couple. No idea what they may have endured before they got there. Not sure how much support they would have received from whatever agency facilitated the adoptions or whether either parent was the type to watch out for problems and get them the necessary help right away. We know that AD seems to be all about "natural healing", was DC? And then again maybe AD is just lying or thinks that any child that doesn't "behave and tow the line" regardless of how they are being treated has a "mental health problem". I wonder if DC will shed some light on his impression of his daughter and how she was when he was the father figure in the family unit.

    But then that family unit was split up and they were forced into another family unit with a different father figure and moved to another country, away from everything they had known to that point, all in a relatively short period of time. And there are the stories from the locals that the girls were not being properly cared for. Their adoptive mother also leaves them for long periods of time in the care of the new father figure while she travels the world for her "business". So if one of those girls was already suffering from a mental health issue prior to the divorce and remarriage, just imagine the impact of all that on not just that one, but all of those girls.

    I am also concerned about the fact that they were all "home schooled" from the time they were adopted. Were they really? Were they enrolled in any accredited home school program? Did any of them ever attend a public or private school in the US before briefly attending the private school in Belize? Why were they isolated from any type of normal childhood? Or were they? Did they have any friends in the US outside of their family? Play outside with the other neighbourhood children? Go to regular doctor's appointments? Have a relatively normal life before DD entered the picture? I hope the Belize Human Services thoroughly checks out DC before handing over the other three girls to him. I'm not sure why he was okay with AD taking the girls to Belize and then leaving them alone for weeks at a time with DD while she was travelling. If he was paying that kind of support and had visitation, I'd think he would have had to give permission for her to take the girls so far away. Where is his responsibility in all this? Didn't he speak to the girls on the phone? Were the girls even allowed to use the internet and perhaps communicate with their father that way? If not, did he not find that odd?

    I am reminded of the video I watched of Faye Lin's teacher in Belize describing an incident where she was "acting out" in class and he had threatened to call her "father". He claims that she got quite upset, said she "hated her "father" and bit the teacher. She was removed from the school by her "parents" shortly after that. She was also considered to be very smart. IMO, a very smart young girl who knows that things are not right at home, whether they were suffering from a mental health issue or not, would "act out" a lot to try to bring attention to the problem and get help. And that would make her a problem for her abuser(s) and probably would make them abuse her more to try to get her "in line" like the others.

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    I see Anke likes "anonymous".
    I bet they would like to expose her and David's histories.

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