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  1. #31
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    There are specific criteria for an AMBER Alert. This case did NOT meet the criteria.

    http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cms/Ambe...ber-Alert.aspx

    Florida AMBER Alert


    To activate an AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met:
    • The child must be under 18 years of age.
    • There must be a clear indication of an abduction.
    • The law enforcement agency's preliminary investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger.
    • There must be a detailed description of child, abductor and/or vehicle to broadcast to the public.
    • The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry2326 View Post
    The girl’s father cooperated, but wouldn’t allow officials to search his home, according to Bay News 9.

    http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/...161777443.html



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    Dad has a record.... if i can find it again.

    https://bailbondcity.com/fldoc-inmate-SHANNON/S09603
    Last edited by Eileen730; 07-17-2017 at 10:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Dad has a record.... if i can find it again.

    https://bailbondcity.com/fldoc-inmate-SHANNON/S09603
    Thanks...that explains it...

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    In my opinion....speculation

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    Ya know when a child goes missing I don't think u should be able to refuse your home being searched. Jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Ya know when a child goes missing I don't think u should be able to refuse your home being searched. Jmo
    I think, let me know if not, that you can refuse anything unless they can prove a reason to search (i.e. your a suspect, or your house may be the site of a crime, etc.).
    Many many people in this country do not trust LE. Some have good reasons based on history.

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    In my opinion....speculation

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    Police: Dad of murdered 13-year-old refuses home search, hires lawyer


    http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/help-...ly-2/456766799

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    But they can get a search warrant, right?
    Trust in the Lord...

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    How about why was this little lady a habitual runaway? What was she running from. This has become the summer of horror. All of these young ladies and also young men. I cannot keep count. Time to buy a paperback and lay off having my heart broken for awhile.
    Rest in peace Janessa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry2326 View Post
    I think, let me know if not, that you can refuse anything unless they can prove a reason to search (i.e. your a suspect, or your house may be the site of a crime, etc.).
    Many many people in this country do not trust LE. Some have good reasons based on history.

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    But a missing child is more important esp when it's your child when that was the LAST place they were seen. But I u understand what your saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry2326 View Post
    I think, let me know if not, that you can refuse anything unless they can prove a reason to search (i.e. your a suspect, or your house may be the site of a crime, etc.).
    Yes, that is true. The only exceptions are ex cons who have signed "Fourth Amendment Waivers". These people have voluntarily waived their fourth amendment rights as part of their parole. As a result, their property can be searched at any time and for any reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Yes, that is true. The only exceptions are ex cons who have signed "Fourth Amendment Waivers". These people have voluntarily waived their fourth amendment rights as part of their parole. As a result, their property can be searched at any time and for any reason.
    Thanks for letting me know that. Seems strange then that LE doesn't just go in...wonder why not?

    But a missing child is more important esp when it's your child when that was the LAST place they were seen. But I u understand what your saying.
    I'm with ya, sister....I would be busting down doors to first find my kid, and then second (faced with this horrible outcome) find who did it!!
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    In my opinion....speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry2326 View Post
    Thanks for letting me know that. Seems strange then that LE doesn't just go in...wonder why not?
    My general impression is that it is usually only mid level and above drug dealers or large scale property theft offenders that need to sign Fourth Amendment waivers. As a result, the person of interest may not have needed to signed one. Likewise, if he did, he may have completed his parole terms and been taken off it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RohrbachJL View Post
    Police: Dad of murdered 13-year-old refuses home search, hires lawyer


    http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/help-...ly-2/456766799
    Woah...wait. Didn't they search the home once is this a second search.
    Sorry, reading backwards to forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisette View Post
    But they can get a search warrant, right?
    It seems they did?

    Subpoenas were issued for Janessa's social media accounts and search warrants were issued to search her father's house, Lusczynski said.

    "Initially [Janessa's father] was cooperative with our investigation and provided an interview. When we asked to consent to search his residence where she was last seen, he did not allow us to do that," Lusczynski said. "He has since invoked and wants to consult with an attorney so we are no longer able to reach out to him."

    http://www.wtsp.com/mb/news/local/he...ly-2/456766799

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Dad has a record.... if i can find it again.

    https://bailbondcity.com/fldoc-inmate-SHANNON/S09603
    2000 and 2003 battery/violence. Not good
    Last edited by LisaWL7TR; 07-18-2017 at 11:37 PM.

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