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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozoner View Post
    I used to live in Berkley, too, so I'm familiar with the areas being discussed. I have to disagree with you about the time she would have added to her commute. She could have made it from Met Life to Berkley in as little as 10 or 15 minutes. (The evening rush is not as bad on Fridays as it is on other days.) To get back to her original starting point would have taken about the same amount of time. You can't treat the time required to get from Southfield to Farmington as time added because that would have been part of her commute anyway.
    I can't even make it from Southfield to Livonia in under 30 minutes after work. I never made it from Southfield to Berkley after work in anything under 20 minutes. So she went at least 20 minutes out of her way to the east, then had to make her way back further west than Southfield. 696/96 traffic going west is usually a parking lot during the afternoon rush. Mile roads have more lights. If she took mile roads from 12 mile and Coolidge to Farmington, you're looking at around 40-45 minutes at a minimum during afternoon rush. I added the Livonia time in because if she added the time up in her head before finally showing up to her friend's, she would have been more likely to text her to let her know how late she'd be. Also, if she left Southfield at 430 (I thought that was around the time she left) traffic would have been lighter. It would have taken her less time to go from Southfield to Farmington at 4:30 than it would have shortly after 5.
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    MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #13

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeypants View Post
    But if he used her own jeep for driving to dispose of her then there wouldn't be any transfer in his own vehicles. He can still say he got a ride home from her or they were friends etc and that's why he left trace DNA in the jeep. I think it's safe to safe the huge parks with deep woods i.e. Hines or Stoney don't have cameras at every angle...maybe for arguments sake they do at main entrances, near visitor centers or parking lots but what if he never used a main entrance. All parks backup to other land. He could just as easily in the middle of the night pull down a dark street that backs up to it and go in that way. I guess I prefer knowing she is in a place where she can possibly someday be found vs a landfill where she most likely never will be.
    I also don't know he had Dani under duress as she drove to his house. What if she was going there to get something from him? Neighbors said they saw her jeep parked out front (not hidden in garage) and that they saw her walk into the home..not screaming or struggling that I've ever read. What if she didn't know she was in danger until he locked the door behind her? He would also know if the cameras at ML were working btw. So if she was parked in a blackout area he would know it. But again, he could just say they were friends etc. unless a video shows a gun pointed at her or terror in her face how can anyone legally dispute that?
    I'd be shocked if a nursing home didn't have cameras as well. I'd honestly be shocked if LE doesn't have her jeep on camera quite a few times and just hasn't released it. Virtually every major area has them. Gas stations, stores, commercial buildings. As you go about your daily driving you are probably on hundreds of cameras all over town.
    Just replying to the theory/question of whether Hines has cameras.. the answer is no.. NONE. At any entrance, exit, park, bathroom, literally ZERO.

    Edited to add: Also, you can't be stopped at the park after dark without notice. (it's also legally not allowed after 10pm)

    Lastly, The holiday lights go on the weekend following Thanksgiving, & start at dark, so that rules out Hines @ Merriman Rd-Outer Dr.

    Worth mentioning IMO.

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    Last edited by Jvt9; 07-24-2017 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jvt9 View Post
    Just replying to the theory/question of whether Hines has cameras.. the answer is no.. NONE. At any entrance, exit, park, bathroom, literally ZERO.

    Edited to add: Also, you can't be stopped at the park after dark without notice. (it's also legally not allowed after 10pm)

    Lastly, The holiday lights go on the weekend following Thanksgiving, & start at dark, so that rules out Hines @ Merriman Rd-Outer Dr.

    Worth mentioning IMO.

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    Baffles the heck out of me that along this path there are NO park cameras. Over the years many crimes have taken place in parts of Hines Drive. I'm not one for a big brother approach however when it comes to the safety of myself or my family I'm all for it.


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    I haven't read here in a day or so but yesterday evening my hubby and I and teen boys went running in Hines. (I ended up walking the last 2 miles, still not feeling 100%) anyhoo, it's probably all in my head due to just wanting Dani found and her family and friends have some peace but throughout my walk I did do some searching. I took a picture a little pass where I was told LE ended the search. I do not know if I'm allowed to post my picture but if tomorrow is better weather I want to look inside what I found. I also seen a wooden box sitting across the Rouge and asked many what that is? No one new. You can rent canoes hourly or daily. I know I have never seen that box before. My Birthday's tomorrow. I'm going to canoe my butt right over there and find out myself. Plus, there were a few more interesting things I seen throughout Hines I wanna scope out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl4 View Post
    I haven't read here in a day or so but yesterday evening my hubby and I and teen boys went running in Hines. (I ended up walking the last 2 miles, still not feeling 100%) anyhoo, it's probably all in my head due to just wanting Dani found and her family and friends have some peace but throughout my walk I did do some searching. I took a picture a little pass where I was told LE ended the search. I do not know if I'm allowed to post my picture but if tomorrow is better weather I want to look inside what I found. I also seen a wooden box sitting across the Rouge and asked many what that is? No one new. You can rent canoes hourly or daily. I know I have never seen that box before. My Birthday's tomorrow. I'm going to canoe my butt right over there and find out myself. Plus, there were a few more interesting things I seen throughout Hines I wanna scope out.

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    The photo is allowed. In many other cases on WS people have posted photos of the areas that were searched. I giggled with a vision in my head of you rowing to that little box! You go girl!!!!


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    I will look at the weather if it's nice canoeing I will go! I do not have a IPhone so when taking the photo I had to zoom in. In all my years of traveling Hines I never seen this before.

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    I had a dream last night that Dani was found safe and sound. I so wish it was true.

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    Looked at the weather for tomorrow. 85 and sunny! Canoe time! I will take pictures. Praying for resolution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl4 View Post
    Looked at the weather for tomorrow. 85 and sunny! Canoe time! I will take pictures. Praying for resolution!

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    Be safe!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by thekarmabus View Post
    The photo is allowed. In many other cases on WS people have posted photos of the areas that were searched. I giggled with a vision in my head of you rowing to that little box! You go girl!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl4 View Post
    I haven't read here in a day or so but yesterday evening my hubby and I and teen boys went running in Hines. (I ended up walking the last 2 miles, still not feeling 100%) anyhoo, it's probably all in my head due to just wanting Dani found and her family and friends have some peace but throughout my walk I did do some searching. I took a picture a little pass where I was told LE ended the search. I do not know if I'm allowed to post my picture but if tomorrow is better weather I want to look inside what I found. I also seen a wooden box sitting across the Rouge and asked many what that is? No one new. You can rent canoes hourly or daily. I know I have never seen that box before. My Birthday's tomorrow. I'm going to canoe my butt right over there and find out myself. Plus, there were a few more interesting things I seen throughout Hines I wanna scope out.

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    Be careful, Owl4! Can you take someone with you? Oh, and Happy Birthday!

  12. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by monkeypants View Post
    But if he used her own jeep for driving to dispose of her then there wouldn't be any transfer in his own vehicles. He can still say he got a ride home from her or they were friends etc and that's why he left trace DNA in the jeep. I think it's safe to safe the huge parks with deep woods i.e. Hines or Stoney don't have cameras at every angle...maybe for arguments sake they do at main entrances, near visitor centers or parking lots but what if he never used a main entrance. All parks backup to other land. He could just as easily in the middle of the night pull down a dark street that backs up to it and go in that way. I guess I prefer knowing she is in a place where she can possibly someday be found vs a landfill where she most likely never will be.
    I also don't know he had Dani under duress as she drove to his house. What if she was going there to get something from him? Neighbors said they saw her jeep parked out front (not hidden in garage) and that they saw her walk into the home..not screaming or struggling that I've ever read. What if she didn't know she was in danger until he locked the door behind her? He would also know if the cameras at ML were working btw. So if she was parked in a blackout area he would know it. But again, he could just say they were friends etc. unless a video shows a gun pointed at her or terror in her face how can anyone legally dispute that?
    I'd be shocked if a nursing home didn't have cameras as well. I'd honestly be shocked if LE doesn't have her jeep on camera quite a few times and just hasn't released it. Virtually every major area has them. Gas stations, stores, commercial buildings. As you go about your daily driving you are probably on hundreds of cameras all over town.
    True, that driving her jeep and using it to dispose of her would eliminate DNA transfer in his vehicles, however, if Dani was wrapped in a comforter, that would not necessarily eliminate post mortem fluids from seeping through that comforter onto the interior of the jeep. I don't want to be graphic but depending on how long she may have been in a vehicle, the odds of fluid transfer increase. This is why I believe FG would have been smarter to either dispose of her locally without using any vehicle to do so, so that there was no chance of fluid transfer in any vehicle he may have used or he could have called someone for help and used a vehicle that was not on law enforcements radar. Using his vehicles or Dani's jeep would be a huge risk IMO. If he used the excuse that they were friends and she gave him a ride, yes that would explain his DNA in Dani's jeep but good luck explaining how her post mortem fluids were in that jeep along with his DNA. If we are to assume he returned the jeep that night, he's also under the gun as far as clean up goes. If we assume he used the jeep to dispose of Dani and then he returned the jeep to IGA afterwards, that pretty much eliminates any chance for him to clean the interior of the jeep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enchantment View Post
    Be careful, Owl4! Can you take someone with you? Oh, and Happy Birthday!
    May I add my birthday wishes as well, and please do stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl4 View Post
    I haven't read here in a day or so but yesterday evening my hubby and I and teen boys went running in Hines. (I ended up walking the last 2 miles, still not feeling 100%) anyhoo, it's probably all in my head due to just wanting Dani found and her family and friends have some peace but throughout my walk I did do some searching. I took a picture a little pass where I was told LE ended the search. I do not know if I'm allowed to post my picture but if tomorrow is better weather I want to look inside what I found. I also seen a wooden box sitting across the Rouge and asked many what that is? No one new. You can rent canoes hourly or daily. I know I have never seen that box before. My Birthday's tomorrow. I'm going to canoe my butt right over there and find out myself. Plus, there were a few more interesting things I seen throughout Hines I wanna scope out.

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    What a beautiful human you are. Dani is never far from your mind, clearly. Amazing.

    Thank you and Birthday cheer to you.
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    Thanks all for the Birthday wishes! Unfortunately the company that rents out the canoes only does it on weekends spent 2 hours at Secretary of State and now have lots of family and my grandkids coming to visit. This weekend I will rent out a canoe! My thoughts and prayers always with Dani. Big hugs and lots of love!

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