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    CA - Audrey Moran, 26, & Jonathan Reynoso, 28, Riverside County, 10 May 2017 #2


    Young couple vanishes from Coachella Valley, abandoned car found on 10 Freeway

    May 12, 2017

    Police sought the public’s help Friday in locating a young couple who have been missing since Wednesday after leaving the Coachella Valley in a car found abandoned on the side of a freeway in Beaumont.

    Aubrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso, both 28, went missing after Moran left her mother’s Coachella home to give Reynoso a ride to his home in Palm Desert, according to Indio police Sgt. Daniel Marshall.


    Riverside County Sheriff's Department Press Release

    June 28, 2017

    On May, 12, 2017, at approximately 12:00 pm, officers from the Palm Desert Police Department received a report of a missing male adult later identified as 28-year-old, Palm Desert resident, Jonathan Reynoso. Reynoso was last seen on May 10, 2017, at his residence located within the city of Palm Desert. Reynoso is a Hispanic male with black hair and brown eyes. He is five feet ten inches tall and weighs 185 pounds.

    During this time the Palm Desert Police Department began working alongside the Indio Police Department who were attempting to locate the whereabouts of Reynoso’s girlfriend identified as 26-year-old Indio resident, Audrey Moran. Moran was also reported missing on May 12, 2017. Moran is a Hispanic female with brown hair and brown eyes. She is five feet tall and weighs 121 pounds.

    On May 12, 2017, at approximately 9:00 am, a vehicle that was being driven by Audrey Moran was located alongside the westbound Interstate 10 freeway west of Oak Valley Parkway, within the city of Beaumont. The vehicle is a gray 2010 GMC Terrain bearing California license number 6MIG265. Anyone with information that may have seen any suspicious activity around this vehicle on or about May 12, 2017, is encouraged to call the tip-line.

    Based upon jurisdictional considerations, and the benefits of funneling all new information through a single source, the Riverside Sheriff’s Department Central Homicide Unit has assumed the investigation of both missing people. Due to the ongoing status of the investigation, no further information is available. We are encouraging the public with any helpful information in regards to the whereabouts of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso to call the missing persons tip-line at (760)-393-3544.


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    Audrey - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/38216/0/
    Jonathan - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/38954/0/

    California Missing Persons
    Audrey - https://oag.ca.gov/missing/person/audrey-louise-moran
    Jonathan - https://oag.ca.gov/missing/person/jo...-david-reynoso


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    Only A Theory

    I've compiled a possible scenario loosely based on some of the facts/reports that we know. It's all just my opinion of what could have occurred the day they disappeared. This is in no way to shame the missing/victims, just thinking that one of them may have innocently gotten in over their head in something beyond their scope. If you shake hands with the Devil, you might get burned.

    One of them was in trouble with some bad people (it could be because of a number of unknown scenarios) and perhaps part of it was that they are too trusting of everyone and didn't realize the significance of what they were doing and what could happen.

    These bad people brought the other person into the situation through threats. These threats came down very quickly perhaps somewhere around the 6:00pm hour on that day and perhaps it was done to force a solution or partial solution to the trouble this person was in. Be it a debt or whatever.

    So one of them was forced to go get as much money as possible or to do something else that these bad people wanted them to do and perhaps it was under the duress of the other person's life being threatened.

    Then there was a meeting place and time set up for later that night for this person to bring the money or whatever it was to the bad people, perhaps any cash that person would have on hand and anything they could get out of the ATM on short notice etc etc.... or whatever it was they had in mind.

    Bare in mind, LE has not disclosed anything about withdrawals of the possible victims, or family members who may have unknowingly contributed. Only that nothing unusual was noticed. Perhaps there was though and this is an LE tactic to state "nothing unusual" as a way to make the perp let their guard down.

    Then the other person was picked up by the bad people from their place of residence, somewhere between the 7-8:30pm time frame and then they were brought to that meeting point, somewhere in the Eastern Region. The person being coerced into going with them under threat (as an insurance policy & guarantee that the person who was bringing them what they wanted would show up).

    So the person being picked up knew about the other one being forced to go get money or whatever received a phone call from the person who was threatened (immediately after the threat was made around 6pm).

    Now had this person who was doing their bidding had this person had more time to think about it they probably would have gone to the police instead but they were time pressured.

    So this person set about doing what the bad people wanted from them around the 7-8:00pm time frame...(after the threat was made around 6 pm and the phone call regarding the threat ended). Then this person went to the house of a close family relative, either to kill time or to pick up some more money (again, underlying reason) and then this person went on their way to the meeting place.

    Now just prior to that this person lied to their close relative about the other one going on a journey that day and the reason being is that this person was expected home at a certain time because they lived with a family member and it being a week night and all they would be expected to be home before it got too late. Plus they couldn't tell them what was really going on.

    So say around 9:30 or perhaps around 10 pm a text went out from a family member wondering why this person hadn't come home yet this person responded with "I'm with someone" & then proceeded to text a pic of them that had been taken the day before. (This text was an annoyed response because this person didn't want their relative to know where they were). It's possible that person hadn't gotten to the meeting point yet either. The text pic also could have been a sort of a way to ease the relative's worries with "I'm safe" and don't prod any more.

    Then... (and here's where the theory gets murky)... they all meet up and the money or whatever it is gets exchanged. Perhaps an argument ensues regarding the person being pressured into doing this when they weren't even involved in it until that day... or there wasn't enough money brought. Or they could be identified, or these bad people already had pre-planned an outcome.

    The bad people had basically already abducted one of them so it escalated from there with their crimes like murdering them both and then either dumping the car or they took one or both of them along in the car and transferred one or both of them to another car or some scenario like that. The only other option being is they ghosted themselves out of fear but the ghosting wouldn't have been pre-planned.

    In everything we look at, Brawley keeps coming up. But LE has not confirmed ANY connection to Brawley. If we go back to the false or misleading info (purposely?) about it, JR could have very had some Friends from Brawley visit him around 6 and the ball got rolling. LE seems to have kept AM's phone activity before the sister visit under wraps. When did JR contact her? Where was she before then? Work?

    <modsnip>

    Again, it's only a theory. I have zero facts to back any of this up.
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    I just keep thinking he had 2 have called or texted her so there is data footprints le has to know a time. And either she was familiar with this place... and if not gps had to b used via phone or car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Ten View Post
    I've compiled a possible scenario loosely based on some of the facts/reports that we know. It's all just my opinion of what could have occurred the day they disappeared. This is in no way to shame the missing/victims, just thinking that one of them may have innocently gotten in over their head in something beyond their scope. If you shake hands with the Devil, you might get burned.

    One of them was in trouble with some bad people (it could be because of a number of unknown scenarios) and perhaps part of it was that they are too trusting of everyone and didn't realize the significance of what they were doing and what could happen.

    These bad people brought the other person into the situation through threats. These threats came down very quickly perhaps somewhere around the 6:00pm hour on that day and perhaps it was done to force a solution or partial solution to the trouble this person was in. Be it a debt or whatever.

    So one of them was forced to go get as much money as possible or to do something else that these bad people wanted them to do and perhaps it was under the duress of the other person's life being threatened.

    Then there was a meeting place and time set up for later that night for this person to bring the money or whatever it was to the bad people, perhaps any cash that person would have on hand and anything they could get out of the ATM on short notice etc etc.... or whatever it was they had in mind.

    Bare in mind, LE has not disclosed anything about withdrawals of the possible victims, or family members who may have unknowingly contributed. Only that nothing unusual was noticed. Perhaps there was though and this is an LE tactic to state "nothing unusual" as a way to make the perp let their guard down.

    Then the other person was picked up by the bad people from their place of residence, somewhere between the 7-8:30pm time frame and then they were brought to that meeting point, somewhere in the Eastern Region. The person being coerced into going with them under threat (as an insurance policy & guarantee that the person who was bringing them what they wanted would show up).

    So the person being picked up knew about the other one being forced to go get money or whatever received a phone call from the person who was threatened (immediately after the threat was made around 6pm).

    Now had this person who was doing their bidding had this person had more time to think about it they probably would have gone to the police instead but they were time pressured.

    So this person set about doing what the bad people wanted from them around the 7-8:00pm time frame...(after the threat was made around 6 pm and the phone call regarding the threat ended). Then this person went to the house of a close family relative, either to kill time or to pick up some more money (again, underlying reason) and then this person went on their way to the meeting place.

    Now just prior to that this person lied to their close relative about the other one going on a journey that day and the reason being is that this person was expected home at a certain time because they lived with a family member and it being a week night and all they would be expected to be home before it got too late. Plus they couldn't tell them what was really going on.

    So say around 9:30 or perhaps around 10 pm a text went out from a family member wondering why this person hadn't come home yet this person responded with "I'm with someone" & then proceeded to text a pic of them that had been taken the day before. (This text was an annoyed response because this person didn't want their relative to know where they were). It's possible that person hadn't gotten to the meeting point yet either. The text pic also could have been a sort of a way to ease the relative's worries with "I'm safe" and don't prod any more.

    Then... (and here's where the theory gets murky)... they all meet up and the money or whatever it is gets exchanged. Perhaps an argument ensues regarding the person being pressured into doing this when they weren't even involved in it until that day... or there wasn't enough money brought. Or they could be identified, or these bad people already had pre-planned an outcome.

    The bad people had basically already abducted one of them so it escalated from there with their crimes like murdering them both and then either dumping the car or they took one or both of them along in the car and transferred one or both of them to another car or some scenario like that. The only other option being is they ghosted themselves out of fear but the ghosting wouldn't have been pre-planned.

    In everything we look at, Brawley keeps coming up. But LE has not confirmed ANY connection to Brawley. If we go back to the false or misleading info (purposely?) about it, JR could have very had some Friends from Brawley visit him around 6 and the ball got rolling. LE seems to have kept AM's phone activity before the sister visit under wraps. When did JR contact her? Where was she before then? Work?

    <modsnip>

    Again, it's only a theory. I have zero facts to back any of this up.
    I have to say this theory makes a lot of sense to me if Jon in fact DID go to Brawley.

    I was starting to doubt the whole trip to Brawley, <modsnip>
    Last edited by Greater Than; 07-20-2017 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Snipped quoted post/local chatter is off limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by ann1989 View Post
    I just keep thinking he had 2 have called or texted her so there is data footprints le has to know a time. And either she was familiar with this place... and if not gps had to b used via phone or car...

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    Let's just say for the sake of argument that everything is fine until after the two meet up, where would you meet someone, if this were not your home turf? The two meeting spots that come to mind are fast-food restaurants, because they are well lit, well known and you can easily park there, and FF joints often stay open until midnight.

    Or maybe someone's home...in which case, AM might have needed to GPS the location.

    But if the meeting place was a commercial establishment of some kind, which along the route from, say Thermal to Coachella, would work best?

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    I'm not even sure what carrier she would have had and then there's the signal strength deal. I might have used Waze only for other wazers to notify whats ahead of me....

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    Let's just say for the sake of argument that everything is fine until after the two meet up, where would you meet someone, if this were not your home turf? The two meeting spots that come to mind are fast-food restaurants, because they are well lit, well known and you can easily park there, and FF joints often stay open until midnight.

    Or maybe someone's home...in which case, AM might have needed to GPS the location.

    But if the meeting place was a commercial establishment of some kind, which along the route from, say Thermal to Coachella, would work best?
    Then there's that AM/PM stop on the 86 expressway, several places there....



    Whats down that way, Red Earth Casino? Taco Shops?

    Here is a cell tower link
    http://www.cellreception.com/towers/...o&state_abr=ca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Ten View Post
    I've compiled a possible scenario loosely based on some of the facts/reports that we know. It's all just my opinion of what could have occurred the day they disappeared. This is in no way to shame the missing/victims, just thinking that one of them may have innocently gotten in over their head in something beyond their scope. If you shake hands with the Devil, you might get burned.

    One of them was in trouble with some bad people (it could be because of a number of unknown scenarios) and perhaps part of it was that they are too trusting of everyone and didn't realize the significance of what they were doing and what could happen.

    These bad people brought the other person into the situation through threats. These threats came down very quickly perhaps somewhere around the 6:00pm hour on that day and perhaps it was done to force a solution or partial solution to the trouble this person was in. Be it a debt or whatever.

    So one of them was forced to go get as much money as possible or to do something else that these bad people wanted them to do and perhaps it was under the duress of the other person's life being threatened.

    Then there was a meeting place and time set up for later that night for this person to bring the money or whatever it was to the bad people, perhaps any cash that person would have on hand and anything they could get out of the ATM on short notice etc etc.... or whatever it was they had in mind.

    Bare in mind, LE has not disclosed anything about withdrawals of the possible victims, or family members who may have unknowingly contributed. Only that nothing unusual was noticed. Perhaps there was though and this is an LE tactic to state "nothing unusual" as a way to make the perp let their guard down.

    Then the other person was picked up by the bad people from their place of residence, somewhere between the 7-8:30pm time frame and then they were brought to that meeting point, somewhere in the Eastern Region. The person being coerced into going with them under threat (as an insurance policy & guarantee that the person who was bringing them what they wanted would show up).

    So the person being picked up knew about the other one being forced to go get money or whatever received a phone call from the person who was threatened (immediately after the threat was made around 6pm).

    Now had this person who was doing their bidding had this person had more time to think about it they probably would have gone to the police instead but they were time pressured.

    So this person set about doing what the bad people wanted from them around the 7-8:00pm time frame...(after the threat was made around 6 pm and the phone call regarding the threat ended). Then this person went to the house of a close family relative, either to kill time or to pick up some more money (again, underlying reason) and then this person went on their way to the meeting place.

    Now just prior to that this person lied to their close relative about the other one going on a journey that day and the reason being is that this person was expected home at a certain time because they lived with a family member and it being a week night and all they would be expected to be home before it got too late. Plus they couldn't tell them what was really going on.

    So say around 9:30 or perhaps around 10 pm a text went out from a family member wondering why this person hadn't come home yet this person responded with "I'm with someone" & then proceeded to text a pic of them that had been taken the day before. (This text was an annoyed response because this person didn't want their relative to know where they were). It's possible that person hadn't gotten to the meeting point yet either. The text pic also could have been a sort of a way to ease the relative's worries with "I'm safe" and don't prod any more.

    Then... (and here's where the theory gets murky)... they all meet up and the money or whatever it is gets exchanged. Perhaps an argument ensues regarding the person being pressured into doing this when they weren't even involved in it until that day... or there wasn't enough money brought. Or they could be identified, or these bad people already had pre-planned an outcome.

    The bad people had basically already abducted one of them so it escalated from there with their crimes like murdering them both and then either dumping the car or they took one or both of them along in the car and transferred one or both of them to another car or some scenario like that. The only other option being is they ghosted themselves out of fear but the ghosting wouldn't have been pre-planned.

    In everything we look at, Brawley keeps coming up. But LE has not confirmed ANY connection to Brawley. If we go back to the false or misleading info (purposely?) about it, JR could have very had some Friends from Brawley visit him around 6 and the ball got rolling. LE seems to have kept AM's phone activity before the sister visit under wraps. When did JR contact her? Where was she before then? Work?

    <modsnip>

    Again, it's only a theory. I have zero facts to back any of this up.
    I like your thinking but if this was a ransom matter wouldn't they keep Audrey and ask her family for money (if money is the case)
    Also her purse was left on the car, if it was about money wouldn't they take her purse and keep the vehicle and maybe idk break the vehicle apart and sell the tires and parts of the vehicle to make money. Idk

    I also thought about them disappearing for fear hopefully they will be found soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gracie2112 View Post
    Let's just say for the sake of argument that everything is fine until after the two meet up, where would you meet someone, if this were not your home turf? The two meeting spots that come to mind are fast-food restaurants, because they are well lit, well known and you can easily park there, and FF joints often stay open until midnight.

    Or maybe someone's home...in which case, AM might have needed to GPS the location.

    But if the meeting place was a commercial establishment of some kind, which along the route from, say Thermal to Coachella, would work best?
    I would meet at a bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welch View Post
    I like your thinking but if this was a ransom matter wouldn't they keep Audrey and ask her family for money (if money is the case)
    Also her purse was left on the car, if it was about money wouldn't they take her purse and keep the vehicle and maybe idk break the vehicle apart and sell the tires and parts of the vehicle to make money. Idk

    I also thought about them disappearing for fear hopefully they will be found soon.
    It may have not been about ransom, but more about debt. The car itself, if kept, would be risky to keep.


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    Almost done here for Gracie2112, there's the Apple market on Harrison, lots of places on Grapefruit, St. Augustine Casino avenue 54 Coachella, Chicanitas Market on 70th in Thermal.

    Type in Bar Coachella on Google maps........ zoom in and out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force Ten View Post
    It may have not been about ransom, but more about debt. The car itself, if kept, would be risky to keep.
    I had a case once where there was a drug debt owed in a similar area (border wasn't too far away) and my "client" so to speak picked up the debtor and told him he wasn't going to get out of his truck until the debt was paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welch View Post
    I like your thinking but if this was a ransom matter wouldn't they keep Audrey and ask her family for money (if money is the case)
    Also her purse was left on the car, if it was about money wouldn't they take her purse and keep the vehicle and maybe idk break the vehicle apart and sell the tires and parts of the vehicle to make money. Idk

    I also thought about them disappearing for fear hopefully they will be found soon.
    BBM
    No purse or wallet has been found.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ran/407081001/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Cruiser View Post
    Then there's that AM/PM stop on the 86 expressway, several places there....



    Whats down that way, Red Earth Casino? Taco Shops?

    Here is a cell tower link
    http://www.cellreception.com/towers/...o&state_abr=ca
    After Red Earth is Salton City and another Am/Pm at Borrego Salton Sea Way. After that there's nothing until Westmoreland which is close to Brawley

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    Going back to the apartment complex security, the complex does NOT have a guard at the front entrance. There's actually no gate at the main entrance, but there are gates for each parking area/section. Each parking area has covered parking AND at least one security camera in each section as you can see on top of the parking cover in the picture. Whether the cameras are actually working or able to save footage is unknown.

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