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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSpeakEasy View Post
    In the district my children grew up in (West Texas), the principal administered the "paddling." I signed a form at the beginning of the year denying permission to spank them. I don't know what would have happened if the administer felt they ever "needed" to be spanked as it never occurred...they were good kids, despite the fact they were never spanked at home.
    Exactly. Mine either. All productive adults with good jobs even through the Bush recession, They are raising unspanked great children.

    One is a five year old. She made uplifting posters for the school and they let her put them up, Totally her own idea and they are in her five year old writing and spelling.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSpeakEasy View Post
    In the district my children grew up in (West Texas), the principal administered the "paddling." I signed a form at the beginning of the year denying permission to spank them. I don't know what would have happened if the administer felt they ever "needed" to be spanked as it never occurred...they were good kids, despite the fact they were never spanked at home.
    "At least" they sent home a permission slip...ugh. I wonder how many parents permitted the principal to spank their kids.
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    I grew up in one of the spanking states. I remember there being some urban legend type stories about the principal and her paddle and she did have a paddle but it was like a joke and she'd pretend to spank kids on their birthdays sometimes. But she never actually used it for discipline that we knew of. Ugh I'm so glad! I was spanked at home a few times... Not as much as my siblings, as I'm the spoiled youngest. Anyway, I vividly remember the first and last spankings and both could have easily been great teaching moments instead.
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    MOO:

    It seems to me that a lot of abuse is just a knee-jerk reaction of the parent when they're angry, even though it may have nothing to do with the child's behavior.

    When the parent physically punishes the child, it's a release of their anger, which means it can actually start to feel good to the parent. So they do it again and again because, subconsciously, they know that release of rage feels good. Which can lead them to subconsciously come up with more and more spurious reasons to punish the child.

    I can remember being physically punished for reasons that don't make any sense to me as an adult, looking back. (Of course, they didn't make sense when I was a kid, either.) Heck, some of the things I got punished for would probably have been rewarded by a saner parent.

    A teachable moment requires the parent to be able to put a freeze on any anger they may have and instead calmly articulate the lesson they trying to impart to the child. There needs to be a societal expectation that talking about the lesson is the default first method of correction, followed by non-physical consequences that are assigned without anger.

    Punishment stemming from anger is unhealthy for everyone involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NadirCake View Post
    MOO:

    It seems to me that a lot of abuse is just a knee-jerk reaction of the parent when they're angry, even though it may have nothing to do with the child's behavior.

    When the parent physically punishes the child, it's a release of their anger, which means it can actually start to feel good to the parent. So they do it again and again because, subconsciously, they know that release of rage feels good. Which can lead them to subconsciously come up with more and more spurious reasons to punish the child.

    I can remember being physically punished for reasons that don't make any sense to me as an adult, looking back. (Of course, they didn't make sense when I was a kid, either.) Heck, some of the things I got punished for would probably have been rewarded by a saner parent.

    A teachable moment requires the parent to be able to put a freeze on any anger they may have and instead calmly articulate the lesson they trying to impart to the child. There needs to be a societal expectation that talking about the lesson is the default first method of correction, followed by non-physical consequences that are assigned without anger.

    Punishment stemming from anger is unhealthy for everyone involved.
    Problem solving with the child. A sense of humor is needed by the adult. And people need to get rid of their ambesia about being a child.

    Some people were raised in punitive homes and know no other way.

    There should be training starting in junior high on child development as well as problem solving as an approach to issues.

    But if a state believes in paddling, it sure isn't going to teach more mature ways of handling life.

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    I was paddled at school in Kindergarten! My parents didn't know about it, no note sent home, nothing. I was so mortified and ashamed that I didn't tell my mother until I was in college. Of course, my paddling happened in the early 70's, so who knows what the protocols were in Oklahoma at that time.

    By the time my son started school, paddling was a thing of the past - none of the schools he attended used that form of discipline anymore.
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    TX - Paddling students approved in Texas school district

    I live in Texas and I only recently learned that our school district is one that allows for corporal punishment! I'm shocked by it because it's not talked about and we certainly don't get permission slips. The policy is buried in the student handbook, and states that we have to notify them in writing if we want our kids excluded from the policy. Pretty ridiculous and not the environment I want my kids in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyGirl View Post
    The Three Rivers School District will now let a principal or behavior coordinator paddle a misbehaving student with a parentís permission.

    A student could now receive a paddling for minor incidents, like breaking classroom rules.

    The new paddling policy reverses a previous code that prohibited corporal punishment.

    Three Rivers isnít the only school district in Texas that allows corporal punishment. There are 26 independent districts that also allow it.

    Corporal punishment in schools is still legal in 19 states, mostly in the Midwest, South and Southwest.

    http://www.fox13memphis.com/news/tre...rule/566471977
    I don't like or agree with the "minor incidents".
    In the 60's and 70's when I was in school, I witnessed out right child abuse and assault by out of control teachers and staff. I remember seeing male teachers, who paddled young girls, VERY obviously sexually excited while they 'punished' the students.
    I have seen men teachers hit 6 foot tall and over, foot ball players, with 1 lick, with paddles made of 2" x 6", that knocked the boys off their feet and sent them flying. I have seen male teachers grab teen girls by the hair of their heads and drag them out of the class room into the hallway to 'spank' them.
    When my own children started school, I did not allow any teachers to spank my kids. I made it very clear.
    On top of that, so many teachers and staff, confuse the meanings and differences of two words:
    Discipline
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    Punishment

    The two words have different meanings. I was raised that punishment was a tool to be used to reinforce discipline.

    In my opinion, Schools should not be allowed to physically punish students. Parents should be called in and they should do it in private if a student really needed to be punished.

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