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    Quote Originally Posted by decsimp View Post
    Dont you think its strange how all msm articles write disclaimers about how they're not implying that BR is involved - im guessing that BRs lawyer is on the ball with this stuff

    ....yet AR is writing openly all this trash talking of BR and CR etc.

    I cant help but think that AR and his "friends" know nothing more than what we know, but him ranting and carrying on is good for BRs case. Takes a bit of the focus off BR and muddies the waters.


    If AR knew KR had a secret affair he would have been blabbing about it a year ago. There might be a photo of kr with someone - but i think its a case of AR trying to be a detective.





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    Yes it's somewhat suprising that Borce hasn't "sic him" lawyers onto him.... as the lawyers seem to be exhorting pressure on media ..... ohhh... disclaimer:

    We do not imply Mr Ristevski is involved...

    I think he would personally be delighted with all the murkiness that Anthony has created for the prosecution team ....

    Anthony at this stage of the investigation is his Dads best defence for doubt in a jury case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puggle View Post
    Yes it's somewhat suprising that Borce hasn't "sic him" lawyers onto him.... as the lawyers seem to be exhorting pressure on media ..... ohhh... disclaimer:

    We do not imply Mr Ristevski is involved...

    I think he would personally be delighted with all the murkiness that Anthony has created for the prosecution team ....

    Anthony at this stage of the investigation is his Dads best defence for doubt in a jury case...
    Do police have power to shut the Facebook page down? They could surely make contact to request this at very least? If they have power to shut down, why has page/particular bold comments/claims been left for the entire weekend so far...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puggle View Post
    Yes it's somewhat suprising that Borce hasn't "sic him" lawyers onto him.... as the lawyers seem to be exhorting pressure on media ..... ohhh... disclaimer:

    We do not imply Mr Ristevski is involved...

    I think he would personally be delighted with all the murkiness that Anthony has created for the prosecution team ....

    Anthony at this stage of the investigation is his Dads best defence for doubt in a jury case...
    Prominent criminal lawyer Rob Stary also uses social media as a matter of course in the 3000-odd cases his firm Robert Stary Lawyers handles each year. Accused, accuser and witnesses have their social media sites checked, providing as they do an invaluable snapshot of a person and situation, he said.

    “We acted for a man who, via Facebook, had enticed two underage girls to go away with him. He dumped them out of Melbourne. We got the girls’ Facebook sites and they were sexually explicit, very suggestive. We went to the DPP and said, we are going to cross-examine the girls about their Facebook postings which will be damaging and humiliating so ask them if they want to proceed. The girls were asked and they did not proceed,” Mr Stary said.

    https://www.liv.asn.au/Practice-Reso...d-social-media

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puggle View Post
    Not going to poke holes .... at this stage of twist n turns .... anyone's guess could be right.

    But as an opinion.... and just that...

    I think how things are being played on his Blog book page. .... is a bit like Karen's Aunt Patricia summation of the familys antics .... a circus.

    I think the mention of the "Italian Boyfriend" was attributed to someone posting to the page, rather than Anthony making the statement himself.

    I fear that some things said.....posted...... should be taken with a grain of salt .....

    As I'm almost sensing an atmosphere of almost seduction ... to entice. .... to have others dance to the music being deliberately played ....

    I mean there have been alot of harsh critics of Ant and he may feel retaliatory ......

    His had his life discussed, exposed, his been cast down, been called this n that..... he may want to have some fun with his new audience.....

    So yeah ..... kinda sheepishly steering clear of this latest tidbit ...... for fear of it growing hairy legs...

    Like soso said .....
    If this is to be believed...
    In the running commentary from the Rickard to Ristevski saga .....
    then we can scratch his previous thoughts they she was going to run away with him...
    Thanks for your reply Puggle and I've answered you in kind.

    BBM and my replies to you are highlighted in blue text.

    I think how things are being played on his Blog book page. .... is a bit like Karen's Aunt Patricia summation of thefamilys antics .... a circus.

    Absolutely, I agree with you entirely.

    I think the mention of the "Italian Boyfriend" was attributed to someone posting to the page, rather than Anthony making the statement himself.

    Yes it was but AR has not negated this comment from a so called 'close friend'.

    I fear that some things said.....posted...... should be taken with a grain of salt .....

    Once again I totally agree and I don't need those grains of salt. By the same token these muppets are reading this thread and they are not as switched on as you or I. My whole post, that you've chosen to reply to, was very carefully worded and psychologically driven to draw out more IYKWIM.

    As I'm almost sensing an atmosphere of almost seduction ... to entice. .... to have others dance to the music being deliberately played ....

    Ah...perhaps but then then again they may well dance to my drum.


    I mean there have been alot of harsh critics of Ant and he may feel retaliatory ......

    Ant is his own worst enemy. If he would just cut the crap, ice induced or not, the so called harsh critics would have no fuel to fire back at him. It's all relative really, isn't it?

    His had his life discussed, exposed, his been cast down, been called this n that..... he may want to have some fun with his new audience.....

    Of course he wants to have fun with his new audience. The same audience he cultivated when he first flapped his trap about his so called affair with Karen. I have no sympathy for AR in regard to what that revelation, true or not, brought down on him. I do have sympathy for the little boy AR was and how he was so cruelly mistreated by everyone around him who was supposed to protect and love him. That little boy is now a man in the physical sense at least. Mentally, I think not.


    So yeah ..... kinda sheepishly steering clear of this latest tidbit ...... for fear of it growing hairy legs...

    And in closing, I once again agree with you. I don't for one minute believe that Karen had a mystery Italian lover, Mafia associated or otherwise. And I just want to say, not all Italians are Mafia related. The Calabrians, who hail from the south of Italy, are notorious for their long held Mafia dealings and have been for many, many years. Not so the rest of Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makara View Post
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/3640...omments/#page1

    When I first watched the video of the man relating the story of BR's strange comments to him while they were in south east Asia I detected a slight twang under the Aussie accent. Having said that, being Italian doesn't mean that a person necessarily speaks broken English. They may have an Australian accent with only a slight hint of an Italian twang now and then and only with certain words.

    I always thought it a bit strange that this bloke with the blurred out face came forward with such a strange tale. I've thought about this long and hard and I've let my imagination run riot. Just thought I'd share what I came up with while we wait for an arrest.

    All hypothetical at this stage: - The guy in the video is of Italian descent and was Karen's fling whenever she travelled to south east Asia, or so BR believed. How he became aware of the Italian is anyone's guess. There may have been photos of he and Karen that she innocently (or not so) posted to her FB. Perhaps they looked a little too friendly to BR. Whatever the reasoning, BR was going to meet the Italian himself but he didn't reveal his suspicions to Karen. BR decided that he would go on the next buying trip, while Karen stayed at home.

    According to the man in the video (aka the Italian) it was the first time he'd ever met BR, they being introduced by a mutual friend. (Someone in the rag trade perhaps). He also stated that on first meeting BR he (BR) sent shivers down his spine. So was the Italian suffering from a guilty conscience? He knew that BR was Karen's husband but played dumb, although he did ask BR if he was married. BR didn't answer him. The most chilling comment BR apparently threw out was, "this is a good place to get rid of somebody".

    IMO that was a warning to the Italian from a very pissed off BR. Stay away from my wife or you will end up dead and buried around here somewhere.

    Karen got wind of the meeting between the Italian and BR and it all came to a head on 29 June 2016, (three months after BR met the Italian) but it was Karen who ended up dead and buried on Australian soil.

    Feel free to poke holes or just tear this apart but it makes some kind of strange sense to me.
    Interesting theory makara.
    Take a look at the "acquaintance" Borce met in China and AR's gossip feeder on his blog site. Do you think?? Trying to work out if the heads look similar and ears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moreinfo View Post


    Interesting theory makara.
    Take a look at the "acquaintance" Borce met in China and AR's gossip feeder on his blog site. Do you think?? Trying to work out if the heads look similar and ears?
    I Had a look at AR's blog a short while ago and IMO no, they are not the same person nor are they in the same age group. I would put the guy in the video in the 45 - 55 + age group. AR's mate closer to 35 - 40. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosocurious View Post
    Prominent criminal lawyer Rob Stary also uses social media as a matter of course in the 3000-odd cases his firm Robert Stary Lawyers handles each year. Accused, accuser and witnesses have their social media sites checked, providing as they do an invaluable snapshot of a person and situation, he said.

    “We acted for a man who, via Facebook, had enticed two underage girls to go away with him. He dumped them out of Melbourne. We got the girls’ Facebook sites and they were sexually explicit, very suggestive. We went to the DPP and said, we are going to cross-examine the girls about their Facebook postings which will be damaging and humiliating so ask them if they want to proceed. The girls were asked and they did not proceed,” Mr Stary said.

    https://www.liv.asn.au/Practice-Reso...d-social-media
    That is so duckin sad..... how one sleeps at night astounds me.

    Young ...in that article underage would mean 16 or under....

    How many girls under 16 post provocative pictures without having any idea what it means..... as they still haven't formulated the mental capacity to understand their actions...

    What a disgrace as a adult male.... pig actually....

    Fullstop .... ADULT entices two UNDERAGE girls... that sentence alone says it all.

    So this is the form of lawyer Borce has aligned himself with... he has chosen well then hasn't he....

    I have vomit in my mouth.

    ETA: This just shows the level of underhand dirty skill Vic Pol are up against...... no wonder they are crossing all their "T'"s and dotting all their "I"s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makara View Post
    Thanks for your reply Puggle and I've answered you in kind.

    BBM and my replies to you are highlighted in blue text.

    I think how things are being played on his Blog book page. .... is a bit like Karen's Aunt Patricia summation of thefamilys antics .... a circus.

    Absolutely, I agree with you entirely.

    I think the mention of the "Italian Boyfriend" was attributed to someone posting to the page, rather than Anthony making the statement himself.

    Yes it was but AR has not negated this comment from a so called 'close friend'.

    I fear that some things said.....posted...... should be taken with a grain of salt .....

    Once again I totally agree and I don't need those grains of salt. By the same token these muppets are reading this thread and they are not as switched on as you or I. My whole post, that you've chosen to reply to, was very carefully worded and psychologically driven to draw out more IYKWIM.

    As I'm almost sensing an atmosphere of almost seduction ... to entice. .... to have others dance to the music being deliberately played ....

    Ah...perhaps but then then again they may well dance to my drum.


    I mean there have been alot of harsh critics of Ant and he may feel retaliatory ......

    Ant is his own worst enemy. If he would just cut the crap, ice induced or not, the so called harsh critics would have no fuel to fire back at him. It's all relative really, isn't it?

    His had his life discussed, exposed, his been cast down, been called this n that..... he may want to have some fun with his new audience.....

    Of course he wants to have fun with his new audience. The same audience he cultivated when he first flapped his trap about his so called affair with Karen. I have no sympathy for AR in regard to what that revelation, true or not, brought down on him. I do have sympathy for the little boy AR was and how he was so cruelly mistreated by everyone around him who was supposed to protect and love him. That little boy is now a man in the physical sense at least. Mentally, I think not.


    So yeah ..... kinda sheepishly steering clear of this latest tidbit ...... for fear of it growing hairy legs...

    And in closing, I once again agree with you. I don't for one minute believe that Karen had a mystery Italian lover, Mafia associated or otherwise. And I just want to say, not all Italians are Mafia related. The Calabrians, who hail from the south of Italy, are notorious for their long held Mafia dealings and have been for many, many years. Not so the rest of Italy.
    I think all of us at one point in time feel or hope we can say or post that one thing that will crack a case or expose something .... and have someone dance to the beat of our drum.

    Unfortunately others like myself may not be aware of your intentions and read what is posted and feel/think their is some validity to the post.







    ETA: I'm not willing to assume anyone is not "switched on" .... I think that would be a big mistake to make that assumption.
    Last edited by Puggle; 08-13-2017 at 12:38 PM.

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    AR doesn't give a damn what people think of his spelling and frankly, neither do I. For me, it's not his inability to spell, it's his inability to use a FULL STOP after a sentence. Heck, I don't even care if he doesn't use a capital after the full stop, I just want to see a full stop so I know when a sentence has ended and when a sentence starts KWIM? *C'mon, AR, surely you know where that FULL STOP is on that keypad. (?) It would make it a whole lot easier reading and understanding what you have to say. TIA

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    Ant is Stary's wet dream when it comes to reasonable doubt. This Italian boyfriend business won't help anything, it is another potential suspect for a defense team to point a finger at.

    I was just thinking about Sarah. The strain. This waiting for the other shoe to fall must be excruciating, but a trial would likely be even worse. I see her as loyal and if she considers her Dad as having done it, even in the deep recesses of her mind, she likely has ways of framing it that make sense for her from the family dynamics, that he can be forgiven. Maybe when she has finished this last semester of uni her Dad will do the right thing and get the ball rolling on the legal side of things. Not have this hang over her head as she starts her adult life.


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    The fact that AR hasn't addressed (or has he ?) the Italian Boyfriend business makes me think he already knows no such person exists. However, IF and that's a huge IF, there is any truth to this latest rumour, if anything, in my opinion, it just meant neither BR or AR were good enough for her and she needed a real man. Like father, like son and all that jazz! MOO

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    The only thing i find strange with sr is the not cooperating with police. However, she was cooperative at the start and im guessing told them everything she knew (which might not even be that much). Then once it was obvious br was a suspect, maybe BRs lawyer has told her that there's nothing more useful she can tell the police and the police will twist her words to implicate br. Maybe she thinks he's guilty but doesn't want to be the one that sends him to jail. Or even worse, if she has doubts that he's guilty and because of what she says he is arrested.

    SR doesn't come across as a strong person to me. And i think it might be too much for her to go against her father (and in some ways against most of your family).

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    Interesting reading on KRCD page

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    Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #13

    at this link, an early video report by john sylvester
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/st...22-guj2iw.html
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    so few reported updates, and so much speculation RE the Ristevskis in general ... akin to a coat of tar upon ALL Karen's family; and through their grief ... it's unimaginable.
    i feel it safe to assume, that with the exception of [whomever responsible] having a sudden urge to make a full confession, their intention is to continue to be neither forthcoming nor truthful.

    on the assumption we all have confidantes, 'IF" Karen's demise was a result of the actions by person(s) known to her - in some capacity, on whatever premise - then there MUST be 'some' relevant history somewhere, no matter how minuscule ... and, inappropriate as it feels to dissect her private life, where ARE the echoes of KarenRistevski's own voice???
    if she'd any weighing concerns, surely she'd have disclosed to someone within her walk of life; perhaps unwittingly telling something pertinent to this case?

    as I previously specced in post #662 thread#11
    might karen have had a confidante abroad, amongst her OS acquaintances? someone through the course of her alleged frequent overseas trips may VERY well have received regular nutshelled updates on any personal events in her life ... might one of those aquaintances be in a position to provide some insight; confirmation, or a fresh angle/avenue for consideration? someone oblivious, to whom the news has not yet reached?

    i have found myself considering who in my own life might be worth looking to for the echoes of MY voice if required ... to whom "i" might have offloaded personal woes in idle natter...
    a regular friend?
    a regular "long distance, touch base only by phone" sort of friend?
    perhaps an online "gaming type" friend?
    my medico would definitely be worth chatting to for some random confidences
    ...as would my dog-walking companions.

    if only pets could talk - what a story they might tell. My pooch would undoubtedly be one of the most knowing AND the first to suffer should anything happen to me ... and here goes sappy me, wondering if karen also had a pet/s to mourn her loss?
    ...i'm thinking a good heart-to-heart [between my vet & i] never went astray during visits over many years.
    It's surprising who true confidantes can be; often not necessarily those who'd presume themselves, NOR those closest in our day to day ...but perhaps just someone with whom we strike a chord in a vulnerable moment.
    (i wrote and filed this piece away, not long after the MountMacedon discovery ... as i composed, an uncanny coincidence, channel 9 aired a segment on the increase in pets diagnosed with mental health problems as a consequence of stressors & change)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrisa View Post
    Interesting reading on KRCD page
    They've found the Italian???

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