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    The Vice President prepares.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

    "But the sheer disarray surrounding this presidency, the intensifying investigation by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and the plain uncertainty about what Mr. Trump will do in the next week, let alone in the next election, have prompted Republican officeholders to take political steps that are unheard-of so soon into a new administration.
    Asked about those Republicans who seem to be eyeing 2020, a White House spokeswoman, Lindsay Walter, fired a warning shot: “The president is as strong as he’s ever been in Iowa, and every potentially ambitious Republican knows that.”
    But in interviews with more than 75 Republicans at every level of the party, elected officials, donors and strategists expressed widespread uncertainty about whether Mr. Trump would be on the ballot in 2020 and little doubt that others in the party are engaged in barely veiled contingency planning."


    I look at it as good that somebody, anybody is doing some planning. Pence may find himself in office long before 2020.

    The Democrats need some strong new leaders. Kamala Harris?

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    Pence has started his own fundraising too which raised more than a few eyebrows in D.C. I'd love to see another female candidate but and I loves me a hard-hitting former prosecutor but Harris faces a pretty uphill climb - progressives aren't in love with her and she's a freshman senator.

    Rumor has it Gillibrand may be eyeing 2020 as well.

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    Pence. Just, no.

    The Dems better get their a**es out into their communities and figure out what people actually want from our representatives. This isn't a game of one-upmanship. Their actions and behavior have a very real effect on the citizens of the United States. Which, right now, couldn't be more un-united.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    Pence has started his own fundraising too which raised more than a few eyebrows in D.C. I'd love to see another female candidate but and I loves me a hard-hitting former prosecutor but Harris faces a pretty uphill climb - progressives aren't in love with her and she's a freshman senator.

    Rumor has it Gillibrand may be eyeing 2020 as well.

    As was Obama, was he not?

    I think Joe Biden is looking at it also but he is 74 right now, will be 75 this November. Sorry, too damn old. And I say that also being old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    As was Obama, was he not?

    I think Joe Biden is looking at it also but he is 74 right now, will be 75 this November. Sorry, too damn old. And I say that also being old.
    Yes about Obama and, I agree - no more old folks in the White House. We need someone who's able to look to the future - not someone living in the past.

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    This subject makes one stop and think.

    If we thought the 2016 election was a debacle, what in the world will 2020 be?

    We are still fighting over the election of 2016, nine months later with no end in sight!

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    Kirsten Gillibrand
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    Love her...
    She has got what it takes, compassion, guts, some swear words, and is fiscally conservative. My kind of gal.
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    Jon Tester
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    I Absolutely love this dem senator from big sky Montana who still runs the farm, too.

    ...on healthcare
    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/15/537381...on-health-care
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesneakers View Post
    Cory Booker Rescues a Freezing Dog & 9 Other Things He Has Saved
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cory-bo...s-he-has-saved

    This man has a heart of gold and is one of the most brilliant thinkers on the horizon...



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    Wake up America...

    Ok, I am up predawn and am now hearing the morning call of the birdies... Or birdie winks as I like to refer.

    Aaahhhh, we can do this. If we look beyond the most surreal election in my lifetime, there are some really great peeps out there.

    I do think Obama, Biden, Warren, will be huge advocates in the upcoming elections, but I don't think Biden or Warren will run.

    Why? Because anyone attached to last presidency or election will be tied to Benghazi, 33,000 emails, battle with maga, or whatever, ya know?

    Have to kill the arch enemy of the repubs. How did Obama win America? He was a new kid on the block with a message...

    Bloomberg, Cuomo, Brown, are a few well established possibilities, too, with relatively few ties to the scandals real or imagined that plagued 2016...

    Whatever the dems do, they cannot succeed in or battling the past...
    Reinvention 2020 is what I am hoping for.
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    What if the next dem running for president in 2020 picked an independent, or a republican running mate for the ticket?

    It would not only be about ways to shake up Washington, but about ways to bring bipartisan back to America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    As was Obama, was he not?

    I think Joe Biden is looking at it also but he is 74 right now, will be 75 this November. Sorry, too damn old. And I say that also being old.
    And evidence for why I shouldn't be posting at 1:30 in the morning. Regardless, I agree with your sentiment as do many others - we need to look forward and not backwards.

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    I think what distresses me is the divide. As a liberal/conservative, if there is such a thing, there are some conservative directions that I agree with. And many liberal directions are kind of on the same page, too.

    No, we can't sacrifice millions for tax relief for the one percent without a better health care plan. Yes, we can ease some stifling regulations. No, we can't offer free college education, but we sure as hell can improve our public schools for kids. Yes, we can provide tax relief and incentivize small business. No, we can't force giant business back to America without tax relief. Yes, we can honor every armed service force member no matter what. No, we can't win the war on drugs by locking up addicts. Yes we can reinvent and reinvorgorate business with a higher wage. Yes we can assure separation of church and state. No we can't trash the environment. Yes we can renegotiate America's contribution to world peace. No we can't ignore our immigration definitions. Yes we can provide a path to those established here for a long time. These are a few things that come to mind. And none on this list should really be partisan divided...

    It is going to take some compromise. And I wonder and hope if we as a country are capable of that. Because prosperity isn't something ordered on the menu, or touted at a rally. No, with 500 plus members of congress, obviously it is going to take more than that.

    Hope they can rise above trump, and go back to health care with a refreshed mind, one that dosen't seek to win, slash and burn, but keeps the actual campaign message in mind...

    But I may be hoping for way too much...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    Pence has started his own fundraising too which raised more than a few eyebrows in D.C. I'd love to see another female candidate but and I loves me a hard-hitting former prosecutor but Harris faces a pretty uphill climb - progressives aren't in love with her and she's a freshman senator.

    Rumor has it Gillibrand may be eyeing 2020 as well.
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    Pence. Just, no.

    The Dems better get their a**es out into their communities and figure out what people actually want from our representatives. This isn't a game of one-upmanship. Their actions and behavior have a very real effect on the citizens of the United States. Which, right now, couldn't be more un-united.
    Bbms: I really love Bernie Sanders but he, as a progressive independent, running a really socialist agenda on the democrat ticket, I think it really effed up the party identity. And it all really fell apart at the DNC with Clinton acquiescing to a progressive platform because the DNC was hacked, and busted. This event caused resentment, distrust, and apathy. And cost the dems the election... IMO.

    I loved George McGovern in '72, mostly in reaction to Vietnam, and I wasn't old enough to vote, then, but the lessons on party identity do have some strong markers. He got creamed. Neither Bill Clinton, nor Obama were progressives. Neither were socialists.

    The Democrat Party is just as capitalist as the Republican Party. And I hope the dems find their way back to their recent edge: fiscal responsibility, protection of the basic essential programs that care for our seniors, zero tolerance on discrimination, superb international skills, and peacetime presidencies...

    Republicans want a strong military and I agree with why. They are lifting the curtain on why a globalist ideal might be nurturing terrorism. I am saddened that the trumps of the world have thrown the baby out with the bath water in tarring and feathering a whole religion. We need to fix that, but the message of zero tolerance on terrorism is strong. I am impressed that a tough stance on border crossing has diminished those numbers without the wall. However, it is a path fraught with trials when you rip apart long established innocent families. I am impressed with the blowback on pulling out of the Paris accord... Ain't nothing is going to stop our advanced states and cities, and big businesses, from pressing forward in spite of Washington. I am very heartened by that and those states and cities are and will remain the most desirable in this country.

    What should kids do in understanding politics and forming an identity? Get off social media! Look around. Why is fracking causing earthquakes in Arkansas? Why is it a bad idea to run a pipeline beneath a river? Where are women to go without planned parenthood? Why are small farms so crucial? Why is affordable housing so important? Why is our diversity so important, not only race and culture, but age diversity? Why is our acceptance of LGBTQ so important? Why is antidescrimination so important? Why is the Supreme Court so important? Why is equitable wage so important? Why are the arts as important as science in society? Why is LE so important? Why is it so important to be able to protect yourself? Why is compassion for addiction, and mental health so important? Why is our Declaration of Independence such an important document?

    These are a few items that define identity. Growing up, I had some outstanding teachers in public school, particularly the ones that taught history and civics. And one of the lessons? People are not powerless...

    Ok, the gatherings assembled in the protests after the election formed on social media were so impressive, but while there were masses, the message was obliterated by a few foul mouthed celebrities who got all the press... Need a change from that.

    Need a better vision for the future.
    - IMO...


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